New PC but…

[MaxLG]

Hello, I finally have my new PC, but there is a small problem.
I have an i5 4570, which performs very well, but when I play, the core temperatures generally reach 70 degrees.
The temperature inside the case is 38-40 degrees. And the airflow is also, according to Hw monitor. Which makes me think, is it the CPU that the thermal paste does not make good contact or is it the case that does not ventilate well?

[Sylver]

Summer is what it has... If inside the case you have 40º, it would be a good start to remove one side and plug in a home fan, because it is easy that if you do not have components like the hard drive cooled, they will go to very dangerous temperatures.
Install Crystal Disk Info and use it to observe the temperature of the hard drive with the case closed and playing, just as you have been until now. If it appears marked in red, it means you have to open that case and start cooling like crazy.

In case you are wondering what the hard drive has to do with the processor, I told you because this way you will find out if the case is well cooled or if inside you have a greenhouse that is causing all the components (including the processor) to work in an excessively hot environment, which makes them rise to exaggerated temperatures. (Personal experience).

If it were none of this, we would be talking about the fact that the genius who put together your pc put the boot in the mounting of the heatsink, which by the way if it is the one that comes with Intel, little can be done, but this is venturing too much without having enough data for now.

Regards

[MaxLG]

Before playing and after playing, the hard drive reaches between 38-40 degrees,

It comes with the standard fan, because I couldn't afford a good fan, but anyway, I've had quite a few in stock, and if you don't overclock it, they haven't given me any problems.

But anyway, I'll wait until summer passes and if it's still the same, I'll get a good heatsink.

I also have to tell you that the computer has about 6 cm of space on the sides and 10 cm at the back

[Fassou]

Forget about HWMonitor and use RealTemp to control the temperatures of the micro and the graphics, which is the main source of hot air inside a case when playing.

Salu2!

PD: Good time to put the signature

[whoololon]

Que deja vù…

In summer, if you have temperature problems, and as long as you don't have an RL set up, remove the sides of the tower (both) and put a domestic fan blowing inwards from the left side.

Damn, that's what it is, some cases look like spaceships when what really matters is ventilation.;D.

And listen to Fasou and put the specifications of your equipment in your signature, like everyone else... who has equipment. :eoh:

[MaxLG]

I've moved it to a different spot and it's dropped 10 degrees, but it's still a bit high.

For Christmas (as an excuse) I'll buy a better cooler and put new thermal paste on it.

It's an i5 4570, aerocool gaming V4 case, msi z87 g65 gaming, and there are only 2 fans in the computer, one at the back pulling air out and the CPU fan, and then there are 2 fans on the graphics card but I don't think they're cooling anything else.

[Bm4n]

@MaxLG:

It's an i5 4570, aerocool gaming V4 case, msi z87 g65 gaming, and there are only 2 fans in the computer, one behind extracting the air and the CPU fan, and then there are 2 fans from the graphics card but I don't think they ventilate anything else.

And why didn't you start there?, it's absurd that you ask without giving any kind of information. With only 1 fan in the case (I'll assume the size since you don't say it either) the temperature is normal, if you want to improve it as logical you will have to improve the ventilation.

[Sylver]

Listen to Fassou and put all the components in your signature at once :eoh: :eoh: :eoh: :eoh:

[MaxLG]

When I have time I do it xD.

I didn't start there, I guess it's because of the nerves and the rush I have and I didn't think about giving all the data, sorry.

Now I have made a fan profile with the command center and I have done a little underclocking and the temp doesn't go above 60 degrees.

One question, if you make the fan work a little faster than normal can it get damaged?

[Bm4n]

@MaxLG:

A question, if you make the fan work a little faster than normal can it break?

You can't make the fan work faster than normal, in any case you can put it at maximum revolutions or less, in no case will it break because of it. Instead of underclocking you should try undervolting if you are worried about the temperature, but in the end what you need is to ventilate the case properly, and an extra fan is 5 euros.

[MaxLG]

What I meant is that, always put it 1% more RPMs than what is configured.

Regarding the extra fan, I thought that more than that, it could also be the thermal paste.

And the underclocking is temporary, I was thinking of buying a better heatsink and plugging it into the CPU, as for the undervolting, I'm afraid it might cause some crashes, besides I think it's set to auto

[Bm4n]

You don't understand that no matter how good the CPU cooler is, if the air inside the case is hot, as in your case, you won't achieve good temperatures. Start with the basics, which is a fan that brings in fresh air and another that expels the hot air. In addition to the basics, you may want another fan to extract hot air from the graphics card or one on the top, which is where the most heat accumulates. Once you have the case properly ventilated, you will see what the temperatures are and if you need another cooler, and finally, if you still want to gain a couple of degrees to do a better OC, thermal paste would be the way to go.

[whoololon]

An analogy to illustrate the case: convection ovens have a fan that makes the air circulate throughout the oven, distributing the temperature better, which remains more or less constant unless the door is opened.

In this case, what suits us is to "open the door", lower the temperature, and the method described above is, in my opinion, the cheapest and most effective. And as Bm4n points out, crank up the fan until it blows, it will always be cheaper than a new micro. ;D

[ferelxyx]

if this is your VS4 case, buy a fan for the front that it doesn't come with,

regards

[Sylver]

The fan won't be damaged by setting it to maximum. As whoololon says, I lowered the temperature of all the components in my PC by opening the side panels and plugging in a home fan, no underclocking or other stories.

Another option (more orthodox) is, as they tell you, to mount a few more fans such as:

-in the front to bring in air
-in the top back to take out air
-in a side to bring in or take out air depending on the position of the graphics card and the heat it dissipates

If you do this, you will improve temperatures and avoid complicating your life with underclocking and other stories.

Regards

[Franziskaner]

@MaxLG:

Before playing and after playing, it marks my hard drive between 38-40 degrees,

It comes with the standard fan, because I couldn't afford a good fan, but anyway, I've had quite a few in stock, and if you don't overclock it, they haven't given me any problems.

But anyway, I'll wait until summer passes and if it's still the same, I'll get a good heatsink.

I also have to tell you that the computer has about 6 cm of space on the sides and 10 cm at the back

in a nutshell : PC boxed :wall:

the basic thing about a tower is that you have space for the fans to be able to take in air and expel it from the tower, if you put the tower in a drawer, you're creating an oven. Stock coolers are usually crap (maybe too explicit ;D) they're noisy and cool poorly, they practically throw them in with the micro to take up space :eoh:
for my personal taste, that tower is not worth anything (the case), the decent thing is a case with top fans blowing air out, everything else is a waste of time (and I say this from personal experience )
regards

[JuezDred]

but let's see…. 40º inside.... playing.... without a fan other than the minimum... it's perfect. if you tell me it reaches 80º like I have a p4 it's okay. but at 40º. equipment designed to withstand much more. I've seen nvidia graphics cards at over 75 degrees ventilated by convection and without blinking. that's right. they don't last 2 years. I would worry more if the idle temperature and the maximum of the equipment varied too much. since the motherboard is the one that regulates.

[JuezDred]

@Franziskaner:

in a nutshell: PC in a drawer :wall:

the basic thing about a tower is that you have space so that the fans can take in air and expel it from the tower. if you put the tower in a drawer, you're creating an oven. stock coolers are usually crap (maybe too explicit;D) they're noisy and cool poorly, they practically throw them in with the micro to add bulk :eoh:
for my personal taste, that tower is not worth anything (the case). the most decent thing is a case with top fans blowing air out, everything else is a waste of time (and I say this from personal experience)
regards

I have all my equipment with the stock coolers and no noise. only that the case is a gigabyte and it has good air outlet. and I built that tower last week in 10 computers for a design company and it's very, very well finished. true that it only comes with one fan, but they don't need more.

[whoololon]

The funny thing is that, the towers (in general) if instead of the sides that are so boring, they put perforated panels, they would balance ventilation and noise.
But come on, nothing that can't be fixed with a couple of trips to the hardware store.

[Franziskaner]

@JuezDred:

I have all my equipment with the stock coolers and no noise. Just that the case is a Gigabyte and it has good air flow. And I built that tower last week on 10 computers for a design company and it is very well finished. True that it only comes with one fan, but they don't need more.

well, the AMD coolers are pretty bad ;D
about the tower, I'm not saying it's not well finished, I'm saying that as ventilation it's terrible.
regards