New PC but…

[Bm4n]

@MaxLG:

It's an i5 4570, aerocool gaming V4 case, msi z87 g65 gaming, and there are only 2 fans in the computer, one behind extracting the air and the CPU fan, and then there are 2 fans from the graphics card but I don't think they ventilate anything else.

And why didn't you start there?, it's absurd that you ask without giving any kind of information. With only 1 fan in the case (I'll assume the size since you don't say it either) the temperature is normal, if you want to improve it as logical you will have to improve the ventilation.

[Sylver]

Listen to Fassou and put all the components in your signature at once :eoh: :eoh: :eoh: :eoh:

[MaxLG]

When I have time I do it xD.

I didn't start there, I guess it's because of the nerves and the rush I have and I didn't think about giving all the data, sorry.

Now I have made a fan profile with the command center and I have done a little underclocking and the temp doesn't go above 60 degrees.

One question, if you make the fan work a little faster than normal can it get damaged?

[Bm4n]

@MaxLG:

A question, if you make the fan work a little faster than normal can it break?

You can't make the fan work faster than normal, in any case you can put it at maximum revolutions or less, in no case will it break because of it. Instead of underclocking you should try undervolting if you are worried about the temperature, but in the end what you need is to ventilate the case properly, and an extra fan is 5 euros.

[MaxLG]

What I meant is that, always put it 1% more RPMs than what is configured.

Regarding the extra fan, I thought that more than that, it could also be the thermal paste.

And the underclocking is temporary, I was thinking of buying a better heatsink and plugging it into the CPU, as for the undervolting, I'm afraid it might cause some crashes, besides I think it's set to auto

[Bm4n]

You don't understand that no matter how good the CPU cooler is, if the air inside the case is hot, as in your case, you won't achieve good temperatures. Start with the basics, which is a fan that brings in fresh air and another that expels the hot air. In addition to the basics, you may want another fan to extract hot air from the graphics card or one on the top, which is where the most heat accumulates. Once you have the case properly ventilated, you will see what the temperatures are and if you need another cooler, and finally, if you still want to gain a couple of degrees to do a better OC, thermal paste would be the way to go.

[whoololon]

An analogy to illustrate the case: convection ovens have a fan that makes the air circulate throughout the oven, distributing the temperature better, which remains more or less constant unless the door is opened.

In this case, what suits us is to "open the door", lower the temperature, and the method described above is, in my opinion, the cheapest and most effective. And as Bm4n points out, crank up the fan until it blows, it will always be cheaper than a new micro. ;D

[ferelxyx]

if this is your VS4 case, buy a fan for the front that it doesn't come with,

regards

[Sylver]

The fan won't be damaged by setting it to maximum. As whoololon says, I lowered the temperature of all the components in my PC by opening the side panels and plugging in a home fan, no underclocking or other stories.

Another option (more orthodox) is, as they tell you, to mount a few more fans such as:

-in the front to bring in air
-in the top back to take out air
-in a side to bring in or take out air depending on the position of the graphics card and the heat it dissipates

If you do this, you will improve temperatures and avoid complicating your life with underclocking and other stories.

Regards

[Franziskaner]

@MaxLG:

Before playing and after playing, it marks my hard drive between 38-40 degrees,

It comes with the standard fan, because I couldn't afford a good fan, but anyway, I've had quite a few in stock, and if you don't overclock it, they haven't given me any problems.

But anyway, I'll wait until summer passes and if it's still the same, I'll get a good heatsink.

I also have to tell you that the computer has about 6 cm of space on the sides and 10 cm at the back

in a nutshell : PC boxed :wall:

the basic thing about a tower is that you have space for the fans to be able to take in air and expel it from the tower, if you put the tower in a drawer, you're creating an oven. Stock coolers are usually crap (maybe too explicit ;D) they're noisy and cool poorly, they practically throw them in with the micro to take up space :eoh:
for my personal taste, that tower is not worth anything (the case), the decent thing is a case with top fans blowing air out, everything else is a waste of time (and I say this from personal experience )
regards

[JuezDred]

but let's see…. 40º inside.... playing.... without a fan other than the minimum... it's perfect. if you tell me it reaches 80º like I have a p4 it's okay. but at 40º. equipment designed to withstand much more. I've seen nvidia graphics cards at over 75 degrees ventilated by convection and without blinking. that's right. they don't last 2 years. I would worry more if the idle temperature and the maximum of the equipment varied too much. since the motherboard is the one that regulates.

[JuezDred]

@Franziskaner:

in a nutshell: PC in a drawer :wall:

the basic thing about a tower is that you have space so that the fans can take in air and expel it from the tower. if you put the tower in a drawer, you're creating an oven. stock coolers are usually crap (maybe too explicit;D) they're noisy and cool poorly, they practically throw them in with the micro to add bulk :eoh:
for my personal taste, that tower is not worth anything (the case). the most decent thing is a case with top fans blowing air out, everything else is a waste of time (and I say this from personal experience)
regards

I have all my equipment with the stock coolers and no noise. only that the case is a gigabyte and it has good air outlet. and I built that tower last week in 10 computers for a design company and it's very, very well finished. true that it only comes with one fan, but they don't need more.

[whoololon]

The funny thing is that, the towers (in general) if instead of the sides that are so boring, they put perforated panels, they would balance ventilation and noise.
But come on, nothing that can't be fixed with a couple of trips to the hardware store.

[Franziskaner]

@JuezDred:

I have all my equipment with the stock coolers and no noise. Just that the case is a Gigabyte and it has good air flow. And I built that tower last week on 10 computers for a design company and it is very well finished. True that it only comes with one fan, but they don't need more.

well, the AMD coolers are pretty bad ;D
about the tower, I'm not saying it's not well finished, I'm saying that as ventilation it's terrible.
regards

[Franziskaner]

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@whoololon:

Lo gracioso es que, las torres (en general) si en lugar de los laterales esos tan sosos, montaran paneles perforados, equilibrarían ventilación y ruido.
Pero vamos, nada que no se arregle con un par de viajes a la ferreteria.

Ventilation puede…. Arriesgó de ser un acumulador de polvo
Silencioso ...... Pues seguro que no.
Saludos

[JuezDred]

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@Franziskaner:

Ventilation puede…. Arriesgó de ser un acumulador de polvo
Silencioso ...... Pues seguro que no.
Saludos

Tengo una gigabyte como carcasa y el lateral viene perforado. No acumula polvo y apenas hay ruido. El material interno es rugoso y absorbe el ruido. Respecto a los disipadores amd. Tienes de los basicos hasts con varios headpipes. Segun procesador y rango de potencia a disipar. Te pasaria fotos de algunos. Pero ni me molesto. Por cierto. La carcasa de este chico. Viene preparada para refrigeracion liquida, la fuente viene en la parte de abajo y el procesador tiene muy muy buena ventilacion por conveccion.

[Franziskaner]

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@JuezDred:

Tengo una gigabyte como carcasa y el lateral viene perforado. No acumula polvo y apenas hay ruido. El material interno es rugoso y absorbe el ruido. Respecto a los disipadores amd. Tienes de los basicos hasts con varios headpipes. Segun procesador y rango de potencia a disipar. Te pasaria fotos de algunos. Pero ni me molesto. Por cierto. La carcasa de este chico. Viene preparada para refrigeracion liquida, la fuente viene en la parte de abajo y el procesador tiene muy muy buena ventilacion por conveccion.

estoy convencido que una torre con los laterales perforados y sin filtros es un templo de la limpieza ( sarcasmo )

pues si mejor que no te molestes por que yo siempre e tenido AMD salvo un par de intels y un cirix
(actualmente un 965 a 4 Ghz )

si si, claro, hoy en dia las hacen dos agujeros para pasar tubos y dicen que están preparadas para RL ;D
realmente no se para que hacen los agujeros , si es mas fácil montar uno de estos y puedes decir que tienes RL :risitas: sobre la F.A solo faltaría que se abría comprado una torre de hace una década (+ o - )
sobre la disipación de el Micro por convección …... ¿ como has llegado a esa conclusión ? ¿que pasa ? que por que tenga un ventilador de 120 mm en la trasera sacando aire es una virgueria :facepalm: y aun gracias que parece que se pueden montar ventis de 140 mm .

saludos

P.D sobre el ruido , la unica manera que conozco de aislarlo es o montando ventiladores silenciosos o [URL="http://www.tienda-traxtore.com/tienda/index.php?page=pp_producto.php&
md=0&ref=MDD348"]con esto

saludos2

[JuezDred]

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@Franziskaner:

estoy convencido que una torre con los laterales perforados y sin filtros es un templo de la limpieza ( sarcasmo )

pues si mejor que no te molestes por que yo siempre e tenido AMD salvo un par de intels y un cirix
(actualmente un 965 a 4 Ghz )

si si, claro, hoy en dia las hacen dos agujeros para pasar tubos y dicen que están preparadas para RL ;D
realmente no se para que hacen los agujeros , si es mas fácil montar uno de estos y puedes decir que tienes RL :risitas: sobre la F.A solo faltaría que se abría comprado una torre de hace una década (+ o - )
sobre la disipación de el Micro por convección …... ¿ como has llegado a esa conclusión ? ¿que pasa ? que por que tenga un ventilador de 120 mm en la trasera sacando aire es una virgueria :facepalm: y aun gracias que parece que se pueden montar ventis de 140 mm .

saludos

P.D sobre el ruido , la unica manera que conozco de aislarlo es o montando ventiladores silenciosos o [URL="http://www.tienda-traxtore.com/tienda/index.php?page=pp_producto.php&
md=0&ref=MDD348"]con esto

Si no sabes lo que es conveccion…. Tu mismo. La carcasa trae en la zona alta un hueco para instalar dos ventiladores de 12cv y el radiador de agua. Viene con conector usb 3.0. Y tacos de goma para agarrar los ventiladores..... Por lo demas. No entro en discuciones absurdas e inertes

saludos2

[Franziskaner]

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pero donde ves tu un hueco para instalar dos ventiladores ¿?
los siguientes modelos SI tiene dos huecos para instalar dos ventiladores en la zona superior :
AeroCool Strike-X One
AeroCool Strike-X One Advance USB 3.0
Aerocool VS-92 Black Edition
AeroCool Templarius Ferrum
Aerocool Strike One Army
en el rango de precios de la caja VS4 que se supone que es la que tiene .
saludos

P.D sobre :
Te noto estresado
a mi ciertas personas que van de fantasmas por la vida como que :risitas:

saludos2

[Kernel1.0]

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@JuezDred creo que te has confundido, el dice tener la Aerocool vs4 nada que ver con la Thermaltake V4.
@Franziskaner se pueden decir las cosas de otra manera, Casper.