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    980 Vs 970 Vs 780Ti a.k.a And you more

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      whoololon Veteranos HL @Javisoft
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      Damn, how nice it is to have a popcorn thread like this every now and then. :sisi:

      ...me lo dicen las voces...

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        @whoololon:

        Damn, how nice it is to have a popcorn thread like this every now and then. :sisi:

        Make room, the curves are coming, I'm already ahead in Firestrike and by AIRE:

        NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 Ti video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3930K Processor,ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. RAMPAGE IV EXTREME

        I had to disable boost in bios because of throttling and increase the maximum fan speed from 85 to 100% so that it doesn't fry with the reference cooler and can tolerate more mhz.

        The rest is as you can read in the gpu-z bios at home. I have more data but for now I'm not going to upload them XD.

        Best regards.

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          @wwwendigo:

          The logical and normal thing is that if someone uploads tests and performance of their units, the one who intends to refute them does not dive into the internet to look for the best possible results, but rather, having in possession the exact model in question, they should pass tests and performance on the units of that user.

          It is as basic as the principle of equal opportunities. Not to mention that there are units on Mars that, taking advantage of the low temperatures of the Martian winter, reach unheard-of speeds.

          There is no ounce of grace in uploading one's own results so that they can be "refuted" with a selection of the best results in each test among the thousands and thousands of results uploaded on the internet. It is just basic.

          Apart from this, I see that beyond the acute reviewitis of some, there is genuine love in the air. I want a photo of the passionate kiss, the one at the end of the movie.

          On the other hand, the debate 970 vs 780 Ti is sterile in itself, when one goes to hell for having low performance, surely the other will suffer the same. That is, you do not win any fundamental battle by demonstrating that one is 0.000001% faster than the other.

          :love:

          I quote myself because I love seeing debates where the differences in a test after several attempts and "yours is longer" "mine is longer" are left at:

          +0.598% in favor of the 780 Ti with OC.

          Yessss…. indeed. 14197 points in the graphics tests on the GTX 970 side, 14282 of the 780 Ti. OC to death in the second and possibly in the first (I am clear that almost 1300 in a GK110 is approaching its absolute limits, unfortunately in the GTX 970 1449 in a BOOST ACTIVATED does not tell us anything, it is a frequency in principle low for the GM204 although that depends on how much the boost adds to the chip, if it is closer to 1500 or 1600 MHz, etc).

          Great score, without a doubt this totally transforms the panorama in favor of the 780 Ti.

          I think you do not realize how ridiculous it sounds to those of us who see the competition from the outside when you talk about "crushing" one graphics card or the other by differences of almost half a percentage point, or shaving less than a frame difference in games... :ugly:

          The minimum sensible thing would be to recognize the equality of results when the differences are so negligible. But no, popcorn and let this war of attrition and Pyrrhic victories continue.

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            Summary of the thread:

            @Ciclito:

            […]Javisoft takes the best of your 780ti and tries to beat some of my results when I had the 970 (and note that it was the bad one, since I sold the good one before those benchmarks) many of those results without a modified bios.
            Let's see when you beat them…ji ji ji... in games a 970 with oc max I already tell you that surpasses a 780ti also at max oc in many cases. (remember that I had two blacks top notch... and also sli 970 pretty decent) Admit it already man...[…]
            Ale you already have entertainment to prove the superiority of one of your 780ti watercooled vs a 970 with reference pcb air cooled (that is if you had, good dissipation):sisi:

            @Javisoft:

            Get ready for some curves, I'm already ahead in Firestrike and by AIR:

            NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 Ti video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3930K Processor,ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. RAMPAGE IV EXTREME

            I had to disable boost in bios because of throttling and increase the maximum fan speed from 85 to 100% so that it doesn't fry with the reference cooler and tolerate more mhz.

            The rest as you can read in the gpu-z bios at home. I have more data but for now I'm not going to upload them XD.

            Best regards.

            @wwwendigo:

            […]+0,598% in favor of the 780 Ti with OC.[…]

            […]Great score, this definitely changes the landscape in favor of the 780 Ti.[…]

            Point made.

            ...me lo dicen las voces...

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              @wwwendigo:

              I quote myself because I love seeing debates where the differences in a test after several attempts and "you more" "mine is longer" are reduced to:

              +0.598% in favor of the 780 Ti with OC.

              Siiii…. indeed. 14197 points in the graphics tests on the GTX 970 side, 14282 for the 780 Ti. OC to death in the second and possibly in the first (I'm sure that almost 1300 in a GK110 is approaching its absolute limits, unfortunately in the GTX 970 1449 in a BOOST ACTIVATED doesn't tell us anything, it's a frequency in principle low for the GM204 although that depends on how much the boost adds to the chip, if it's closer to 1500 or 1600 MHz, etc).

              Great score, without a doubt this completely transforms the landscape in favor of the 780 Ti.

              I think you don't realize how ridiculous it sounds to those of us watching the competition from the outside when you talk about "crushing" one card or the other by differences of almost half a percentage point, or shaving less than a frame difference in games... :ugly:

              The minimum sensible thing would be to recognize the equality of results when the differences are so negligible. But no, popcorn and let this war of attrition and Pyrrhic victories continue.

              Do we better not talk about the 9.22% I put in heaven? Or the almost 6% in metro? :ugly: What a coincidence, thank goodness I'm on air and water the reference will make more foam. What a shame that you have to rely on what interests you, 3Dmark, it's well known that kepler scores less... in tomb raider it would have been even more of a percentage difference, but no, I'm stubborn on air, when I see that it's not possible to get more performance, I'll switch to water and we'll talk again ;D.

              You take the data as you like and the comeback is yours and you'll have even more, I guarantee it.

              For now, above all the data I'm showing, when I have them all we'll see in how many I'm below, but let me anticipate it, it's sure to have to do with 3Dmark, because of course, it passes tests everywhere, but only puts the ones it's interested in, lest it get caught with X fps in some game and be exposed...

              I'm following his script, the one he's interested in, when it ends, I'll present mine and we'll see the excuses flow down the river...

              For now you're not affirming as in other places that the 970 is faster, now it's a little slower, the next thing is that you see what many websites have been showing for a long time, a 7% in favor of kepler on average...

              Then you can cry about the boost of the 970 as much as you want, the result will be the same.

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                @whoololon:

                Thread summary:

                Point ball.

                Re-read the thread if you are so kind :facepalm:...

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                  @Javisoft:

                  Of the 9.22% that I put into heaven, let's not even talk about it? What about the almost 6% in metro? :ugly: What a coincidence, it's a good thing I'm in air and water, the reference will make more foam. Too bad you have to rely on what interests you, 3Dmark, it's well known that kepler scores less... in tomb raider it would have been even more of a percentage difference, but no, I'm stubborn in air, when I see that it's not possible to get more performance, I'll switch to water and we'll talk again;D.

                  You take the data as you like and the comeback is yours and it will be even more yours, I guarantee it.

                  For now, above all in all the data that I'm showing, when I have them all we'll see in how many I'm below, but let me anticipate it, it's sure to have to do with 3Dmark, because of course, he tests everything everywhere, but only puts the ones that interest him, lest he get caught with X fps in some game and be exposed...

                  I'm following his script, the one that interests him, when it ends, I'll present mine and we'll see the excuses flow like a river...

                  Then you can cry about the boost of the 970 as much as you want, the result will be the same.

                  Calm down a bit, I'm talking about your last comment, or is it not possible to comment here in "duel of who has the biggest"? :facepalm:

                  About Heaven, man, look how good, a 9%? But what about everything else where the differences are simply ridiculous? The issue is that you're not taking into account that ciclito already put those GTX 970s at much higher frequencies, especially the OTHER one that was the first to get rid of, I'm not saying this to give him credit, it's that I've seen this commented on other forums and some results with OC records, when he says that the "bad" one is the one that was left, he's not saying it as a last resort.

                  What do you want me to tell you, when you put a result of Last Light without tessellation in the result (that's what it says whether you like it or not in your screenshot, I don't have to trust someone's word over what the html result says that the game saves, yes, if it's for a sparrow copy and stories, then either you have the game correctly, or better yet, don't even mention it), well, I didn't even take it into account to look at the following results... :troll: But even so, after reviewing it (besides the fact that Last Light is not a very promaxwell game precisely):

                  I'm surprised that you say that in LL there is "almost a 6%" difference in your favor, when it's more like a meager 5% (specifically, 5.272108%), something that from a mathematical language when applying rounding doesn't make any sense to do it upwards (if it were 5.51% another bird would be singing). Don't inflate results.

                  Anyway, are you really debating over differences that are basically insignificant? Tell me what use you have for such "thick differences" in a 780 ti with an "up to 9% faster" than a 970, and both pushed to the limit.

                  Seriously, what real gameplay extra do you get with that "up to" that doesn't happen even half the time, what options will you be able to activate that can't be done on a 970. There, even having more VRAM (even if it's "small") determines more than the other.

                  You give me a stable difference of 15-20% and not of "up to" and we'll start talking about differences that are noticeable in performance. It's not rocket science, eh?, serious things start at no less than 30-35%, and if we talk about 50% it's when you really IMPROVE with a graphics change. What I'm doing is pointing out that the "debate" doesn't make sense and even less so with the heat that's on both sides, for differences that aren't worth putting up statues for, precisely.

                  But don't you see that there are more differences between both graphics due to the game used than by the average power they show (and here you'll see why I say that about Last Light)? An image like this:

                  It depends much more on the game compared than on anything else.

                  In Crysis 3, your 780 will surely sodomize the 970 (exaggeration, but it will get a good advantage), the opposite if we talk about Far Cry 4 (note, the game was configured to run well on a 770 without VRAM problems), Battlefield 4 runs much better than the 3, etc.

                  That is, if you get stupid by making "war" it's enough to throw at each other the games that run best on each of the two graphics as "argument-counterargument" to infinity.

                  I really don't care if the 780 ti is the "fastest", since they weren't even close in price tag. Even less for these average differences. But I already told you that I have no problem with the 780 Ti outperforming the 970. That's why I see as ridiculous that eagerness to compete when the differences are scarce, do you need that tone of "annihilation" when talking about such similar results? It's a bit comical, on both sides.

                  Relax. We're talking about graphics with similar performance, and no one's life depends on it or a fortune is won in the form of a bet.

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                    @wwwendigo:

                    Tranquilízate un poco que estoy hablando de tu último comentario, ¿o es que no se puede comentar aquí en "duelo de quién la tiene más gorda" que os marcáis? :facepalm:

                    Sobre el Heaven, hombre, mira qué bien, un 9% ¿pero qué pasa en todo lo demás donde las diferencias son simplemente ridículas? El tema que no estás teniendo en cuenta es que ciclito ya puso esas GTX 970 a frecuencias mucho mayores, sobre todo la OTRA que fue la primera que se deshizo, no lo digo para darle la razón, es que esto ya se lo ví comentado por otros lares y algún que otro resultado con récords de OC, cuando te dice que la "mala" es la que le quedaba, no lo dice como recurso de última hora precisamente.

                    Yo qué quieres que te diga, cuando has puesto un resultado de Last Light sin teselación en el resultado (es lo que pone te guste o no en tu captura, yo no tengo porqué confiar en la palabra de alguien por encima de lo que pone el html del resultado que guarda el juego, sí, si es por una copia sparrow e historias, pues entonces o se tiene el juego correctamente, o mejor ya ni comentarlo), pues como que ni lo tuve en cuenta mirar más los resultados siguientes… :troll: Pero aún así, tras revisarlo (además de que Last Light no es un juego demasiado promaxwell precisamente):

                    Me sorprende que digas que en LL hay "casi un 6%" de diferencia a tu favor, cuando más bien es un 5% escaso (en concreto, un 5,272108%), algo que desde el lenguaje matemático a la hora de aplicar redondeos no tiene ningún sentido hacerlo hacia arriba (si fuera un 5,51% otro gallo cantaría). No me infles resultados.

                    Sea como sea, ¿realmente estáis debatiendo por diferencias básicamente insignificantes? Dime de qué te sirve tan "gruesas diferencias" en una 780 ti con un "hasta un 9% más rápida" que una 970, y ambas puestas a reventar.

                    En serio, qué jugabilidad real extra obtienes con ese "hasta" que no llega ni la mitad de las veces, qué opciones podrás activar que no se pueda en una 970. Ahí hasta determina más que una tenga más VRAM (aunque sea siendo "cojita") que la otra.

                    Tú dame un 15-20% de diferencia estable y no de "hasta" y ya empezamos a hablar de diferencias perceptibles de rendimiento. Tampoco para tirar cohetes, ¿eh?, las cosas serias empiezan en no menos de un 30-35%, y ya si hablamos de un 50% es cuando se mejora DE VERDAD en un cambio de gráficas. Yo lo que hago es señalar que el "debate" no tiene sentido y menos en lo encendido que está por ambas partes, por diferencias que no son para poner estatuas, precisamente.

                    ¿Pero no veis que hay más diferencias entre ambas gráficas por el juego usado que por la potencia media que demuestren (y aquí verás porqué digo lo de Last Light)? Una imagen como muestra:

                    Depende mucho más del juego comparado que de cualquier otra cosa.

                    En Crysis 3 seguro que tu 780 sodomiza a la 970 (exageración, pero le sacará buena ventaja), lo contrario si hablamos de Far Cry 4 (ojo, estaba configurado el juego para ir bien en una 770 sin problemas de VRAM), Battlefield 4 va bastante mejor que el 3, etc.

                    Que vamos, si os ponéis tontos al hacer "la guerra" sólo basta con arrojaros los juegos que mejor van en cada una de las dos gráficas como "argumentación-contraargumentación" hasta el infinito.

                    A mí realmente me da un poco igual que sea la 780 ti la "más rápida", ya que ni siquiera han estado ni cerca en tag de precio. Menos por estas diferencias medias. Pero ya te digo que no tengo ningún problema en que la 780 Ti le saque la cabeza a la 970. Por eso veo ridículo esa afán de competencia cuando las diferencias son escasas, ¿hace falta ese tono de "aniquilación" cuando hablamos de resultados tan parecidos? Es que es un poco cómico, por ambas partes.

                    Relax. Que estamos hablando de gráficas parecidas en rendimiento, y no le va la vida a nadie ni se gana una fortuna en forma de apuesta.

                    Alucino cada dia mas contigo, se te cae la mascara de entendido macho … enserio crees que la puntuacion que da es sin teselación? en very high? enserio? quieres hacerme creer que el no iba a tope en el test?

                    Perdona pero no soy idiota, como digo, 970 a 1620 estables en mi mano, codo con codo contra mi 780Ti, media de diferencia 7%... Cuando me muestres una 970 que te aguante eso, por favor, avisame, que no es facil, tu amigo ciclito consiguio 1800 mhz sin voltmod XDDDDDDDD, claro y con 1v :facepalm:

                    Lo que te estoy mostrando es la verdad al 100%, insisto, yo no miento, que quedo por debajo, fantastico, no hay problema, pero la verdad por delante, se puede decir lo mismo de algunos?

                    Claramente no, no pensaras que me voy a tragar un Heaven a 1570 mhz dando esa puntuacion... que no tio, que hay mil foros con scores para comparar, será casualidad que nunca rankea en los scores oficiales? Si es tan tan tan bueno, por que no se le ve?

                    Se la mide constantemente alardeando de hardware y puntuacion pero no entra a competir?

                    En fin, ni seré el primero ni el ultimo que lo pilla falseando datos y con fantasmadas...

                    Luego, le hace test, capturas, videos, hasta a su ombligo y me estas diciendo que me está poniendo resultados de la gpu " mala "? Cuando tengo datos aqui que son inferiores, equivalentes y superiores con la G1? Mira, va a tope, como voy yo, la falsa modestia para otros...

                    Yo estoy con una grafica que no es buena, con peor sistema de refrigeracion y en plena ola de calor, lo que está haciendo la pequeña de mi derecha, es echarle unos "·$%&/(? con una media de 95º que es para quitarse el sombrero y no los 60º maximo que tendria su Ichill y tirando por lo alto.

                    Me pides un 15-20% de mas, cuando la 980Ti le mete a la 780Ti un 25% de media, vamos lo que me estas pidiendo es imposible sin LN2 y totalmente absurdo para la comparacion INJUSTA, de momento claro.

                    Yo lo que te estoy mostrando es que una grafica es mas rapida que la otra y no por un misero porcentaje si quitas 3Dmark, donde compitien en inferioridad por el propio test, aun asi por delante y sin excusas...

                    No se que vienes a reclamar, si la 980 le mete un 10% a la 970 de media y nadie discute que la primera es mas rapida y con un frametime mas constante, que como bien reclamas y se ha visto ya, es una " diferencia perceptible de rendimiento ".

                    Si esperas tus porcentajes magnificos, que ninguna review ni usuario jamas ha mostrado, vuelve al pais de la piruleta, por que eso aqui no va a pasar a no ser que meta nieve carbonica o LN2, y de momento, lo descarto, siento desilusionarte ¬¬

                    En vez de meter mas madera, que es lo unico que haces y encima con paridas como la teselación off, coge tu 970, que creo que tienes y aporta datos, si no la tienes, como tu bien decias en otro hilo, estas hablando de oidas, no hace falta que diga mas no?

                    Pues eso ? a seguir bien ;D y buen rollo ?.

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                      Well, seeing that I'm not going to get much more out of the air with the heat, I've decided that I'm going to push the card to its limit. To do this, I've put a nickel-plexy block on it, an EK backplate and a fugipoly ultra extreme thermalpad.

                      The configuration for all the tests was:

                      3930K @ 4.8 ghz
                      Asus rampage IV Extreme
                      2X4 Corsair Dominator GT 2133 Cas7
                      Raid 0 840 Pro
                      Evga Gtx 780Ti SC
                      EK Supremacy EVo block
                      Alphacool D5+Top
                      DDC+Top+Depo
                      EK Bahia Depo
                      TFC Xchanger 360
                      EK XT45 360
                      TFC Xchanger 120
                      7 X Corsair SP120HP

                      First results:

                      • 6.4 fps ( + 4,21% vs previous, no data for the 970 ¬¬ )

                      • 1.83 fps ( + 2.95% vs previous and + 8,38% vs 970 oc )

                      • 0.44% vs previous ;D + 2,23% vs 970 oc

                      Tomorrow I'll try to run the others, but seeing the lack of increase in the super 3Dmark... There's an average increase of 7% in games but practically none in firestrike, fantastic indeed :ugly:...

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                        @Javisoft:

                        I'm amazed more every day with you, your expert male mask is falling off... do you really think the score given is without tessellation? at very high? really? do you want me to believe that it wasn't running at full capacity during the test?

                        Sorry, but I'm not an idiot, as I say, 970 to 1620 stable in my hand, side by side against my 780Ti, average difference 7%... When you show me a 970 that can keep up with that, please let me know, it's not easy, your friend ciclito managed 1800 mhz without voltmod XDDDDDDDD, of course, with 1v :facepalm.

                        What I'm showing you is 100% the truth, I insist, I don't lie, that I came in below, fantastic, no problem, but the truth comes first, can the same be said for some?

                        Clearly not, you wouldn't think I'd swallow a heaven at 1570 mhz giving that score... no way, there are a thousand forums with scores to compare, is it a coincidence that it never ranks in the official scores? If it's so so so good, why can't we see it?

                        They constantly measure it up, boasting about hardware and score but don't enter to compete?

                        Anyway, I won't be the first nor the last to catch them falsifying data and with phantasms...

                        Then, they do tests, captures, videos, even of their belly button and you're telling me that they're showing me results of the "bad" gpu? When I have data here that are inferior, equivalent and superior with the G1? Look, it's running at full capacity, as I am, the false modesty for others...

                        I'm with a card that's not good, with a worse cooling system and in the middle of a heatwave, what the little one on my right is doing is giving it a "·$%&/( with an average of 95º that's worth taking off your hat and not the 60º maximum that their Ichill would have and that's being generous.

                        You ask me for 15-20% more, when the 980Ti is putting in a 25% average to the 780Ti, what you're asking for is impossible without LN2 and totally absurd for the UNFAIR comparison, for now, of course.

                        What I'm showing you is that one card is faster than the other and not by a measly percentage if you take out 3Dmark, where I compete at a disadvantage because of the test itself, even so, ahead and without excuses...

                        I don't know what you're complaining about, if the 980 puts in a 10% average to the 970 and no one disputes that the first is faster and with a more constant frametime, which as you rightly claim and has already been seen, is a "perceptible difference in performance".

                        If you expect your magnificent percentages, which no review or user has ever shown, go back to candy land, because that's not going to happen here unless I put in carbon dioxide or LN2, and for now, I rule that out, sorry to disappoint you ¬¬

                        Instead of adding more wood, which is the only thing you do and even with nonsense like tessellation off, get your 970, which I think you have and provide data, if you don't have it, as you rightly said in another thread, you're talking out of your rear end, no need to say more, right?

                        So that's it ? let's keep going good ;D and good vibes ?.

                        My results are official you can look them up on hwbot I put links in another forum. I don't do fakes what a mania... and it wasn't 1800mhz without 1700mhz the good one.

                        On the other hand I'll tell you to stop saying nonsense about a 23% more of the 980ti over the 780ti look kid and learn:

                        980ti bios original at full blast:

                        You who are at 73 fps?... that's a 50% difference in favor of the 980ti.... learn to calculate percentages because I tell you that a 23% in no case, if you want we'll beat them in a duel and I'll embarrass you again.

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                          @Javisoft:

                          I'm amazed every day with you, your macho know-it-all mask is falling off... do you really think the score you gave is without tessellation? at very high? really? do you want me to believe he wasn't at full capacity on the test?

                          Sorry, but I'm not an idiot,…:

                          Wow, you seem to be carrying a lot of trauma. Whether you're an idiot or not, I don't care and I'm not interested, save the easy tear to play the victim for yourself, no one has called you that, that's just theater for show. And the aggression you spend at three in the morning, save that too. I say what I feel like without having to answer to anyone, and less to you, a perfect stranger whose opinion I care less about than a fig.

                          Understood? Yes, among other things I'm capable of reading and other skills that you will find wonderful, and when a test says "tessellation: NO" in a capture, I take the data as what the test says, and not your empty promises of a guy on the internet who thinks his word is worth a lot and can't explain why the test doesn't say TESSELLATION: Maximum. Don't sugarcoat it for me, pass the tests as they should be passed and that's it. The rest is your chatter.

                          You've already managed to derail the thread about ELP3's Fury X with your comments going "understood" (you're the one who goes around saying that) when you haven't even smelled them from a mile away. Now you come here with the arrogance of an "understood" passing tests under different conditions (no, it's just that Last Light has a grudge against you, of course) and talking about victories of "up to 9%" while in everything else you're left at almost zero difference.

                          And since I'm fed up with your ways, you're going to the ignored list, because they'll have enough to put up with you at home. Every time you appear in a thread, you give a headache to its readers.

                          Well, bye.

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                            @wwwendigo:

                            Wow, how much trauma you seem to carry around. Whether you're an idiot or not, I don't care and I'm not interested, save the easy tear for victimhood for yourself, nobody has called you that, it's just theater, fair enough. And the aggression you spend at three in the morning, save that too. I say what I feel like without having to answer to anyone, and less to you, a perfect stranger whose opinion matters to me less than a fig.

                            Understood? Yes, among other things capable of reading and other skills that you will find wonderful, and when a test says "tessellation: NO" in a screenshot, take the data as what the test says, and not your empty promises of a guy on the internet who thinks his word is worth a lot and can't explain why the test doesn't say TESSELLATION: Maximum. Don't tell me stories, pass the tests as they should be and that's it. The rest is your chatter.

                            You've already managed to derail the thread of ELP3's Fury X with your comments going "understood" (you're really into that) when you haven't even smelled them from miles away. Now you come here with the arrogance of an "understood" passing tests under different conditions (no, it's just that Last Light has a grudge against you, of course) and talking about victories of "up to 9%" while in everything else you're left at almost zero difference.

                            And since I'm fed up with your ways, you're going to the ignored list, because they'll have enough trouble putting up with you at home. Every time you appear in a thread, you give a headache to its readers.

                            Well, bye.

                            You're clearly the one who has to expose data instead of so much useless chatter, even though in the past you've been saying the opposite of what is being seen here...

                            Basically in your comment, you're calling me a liar, a person without word, I hope you eat yours, season them, take your time and while you're at it, deprive us of your lack of assistance after the owned you're going to get:

                            You have the honor of being the first to whom I have to upload a video to prove that I'm right and that my word is worth a lot more than the opinion you have of my comments.

                            I think you already know... :mute: you're better off.

                            The one who has to upload more game data is your friend, who is getting owned just like you again:

                            Without shadowplay in between that's what it gives... 9.58% difference.

                            That's data and yours is just chatter.

                            Best regards.

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                              @Ciclito:

                              My results are official, you can look them up on hwbot, I put links in another forum. I don't do fakes, what a mania... and it wasn't 1800mhz sin 1700mhz the good one.

                              On the other hand, I'll tell you to stop saying nonsense about a 23% more of the 980ti over the 780ti, look kid and learn:

                              980ti original bios at full blast:

                              You who are running at 73 fps?… that's a 50% difference in favor of the 980ti.... learn to calculate percentages because I tell you that a 23% in no case, if you want we can beat you in a duel and I'll embarrass you again.

                              The average that techpowerup gives is 25%, as much as you like the page I don't know how you don't know...

                              By the way, with what your brand new 980Ti is worth, for the same price you have in the second-hand market and with warranty this:

                              As if nothing, 20 fps… ¬¬

                              It's not the best option right now to try to have it fatter or to go out in the forums to make you bow down... It doesn't even impress, yourself.

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                                @Javisoft:

                                The average that techpowerup gives is 25%, as much as you like the page I don't know how you don't know it...

                                By the way, for what your shiny 980Ti is worth, for the same price you have in the second-hand market with warranty this:

                                As if nothing, 20 fps �� ¬¬

                                It's not the best option right now to try to have it fatter or to go out in the forums to make you bow down... It doesn't even impress, yourself.

                                Well, well... I see that you continue to cling to the LL metro in which I was not going at full capacity as I already told you 14 times...
                                Of the synthetics that I uploaded, 7 in total, you surpass me only in 1 by 1%.... (you said you were going to eat me with potatoes, right?...:sisi:) there are 6 more... so we go 7-1 in my favor... now that you have it for water give it a straw, even for water the performance of your sli of 780 ti is a shame... look mate to give you an idea... sli of blacks to less than 1300mhz (home bios) I already crush you easily...

                                Even with water you don't surpass that, look what a crappy sli you have…

                                On the other hand, to tell you that the 780ti when they came out were worth almost the same as a 980ti (even a 780 when it came out, the reference, was worth 700€ or do we not remember it?....:facepalm: but well you continue in your stubbornness saying nonsense)

                                On the other hand, why don't you upload a valley at full throttle...? oh, that's not convenient because you would be 6 fps below compared to heaven that is about 123 fps on average and I get 114 fps in single... so your dear precarious sli of only 3 miserable gigabytes would scratch 9 fps from my 980ti. On the other hand, to tell you that from stock the sli of 780ti would be around 118 fps-120 in heaven (10% more than a single) and with oc you don't even reach a miserable 20%.

                                Having said that and seeing that you upload videos of what suits you (I say this because of the LL metro that you cling to like a tick... since you know that it doesn't favor maxwell and on top of that my 970 wasn't going at full capacity) upload one of the 2033 metro and let's compare sli of 780ti vs sli of 970... for 14 minutes to see your stability... in mine you see the sli at 1580/1590 like a rock all that time... and we see the framerates side by side...:fumeta: to see how stable your sli is at 1300 and pico mhz and what it throws... I know you won't do it because you'll make a fool of yourself... but I'll repeat it to you again to see if you dare.

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                                  Ah, on the other hand I'll tell you what's wrong with you: unapproved graphics driver in both cases of your 1% more…:wall: I don't know how you set it up, man... you can't get the tessellation, invalid graphics driver... that's useless in a competition. Besides, I'll tell you if you look at the frame rate of graphics #2 you beat me, you only beat me in the first one, which curiously, without fixed voltages, my boost fluctuated so that's why you scratch that 1% more in the total... What a sad sli of 780ti watercooled... I'm dying of laughter man... and with its 3 precarious gigabytes... ja ja ja... I can't stop laughing... what a ridiculous you're making vs cards that originally cost 300 and odd euros. Come on champ, upload the remaining 6 benches and the metro video, now there are no more excuses that are worth anything for temps or throttling...

                                  Take a good look at the video so you know the parameters and what you have to overcome for almost 14 minutes:

                                  Well you already have entertainment for the afternoon ;D

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                                    You have to be blind not to see it :sisi:

                                    Then I'll give you scores, come on...

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                                      @Javisoft:

                                      You have to be blind not to see it :sisi:

                                      Then I'll upload scores, go on...

                                      What I see is "graphics driver not approved" so the result is invalid, that's what I see besides unsupported tessellation... pass it as it should and put a valid result like all mine.

                                      I'm waiting for your video of metro 2033 all ultra, with depth of field, tessellation, msaa4x and physx On... in sli at full blast to see what you get in 13 minutes, here's the video... I'm looking forward to it... hehe...

                                      I want to see your sli for 14 minutes stable at 1300 and some for me to eat with some chips...

                                      By the way, your 780ti perform poorly vs my ex-blacks (which even with house bios at less than 1300 mhz gave you a beating in heaven... and that's been ages with an old driver of crap.) So taking as reference my sli of blacks that outperforms your sli of 780ti by water, I still say that the sli of 970 in general pulls more today.

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                                        Edit: Results without tuning the gpu …

                                        Firestrike:

                                        NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 Ti video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3930K Processor,ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. RAMPAGE IV EXTREME

                                        • 4.97%

                                        Firestrike Extreme:

                                        NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 Ti video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3930K Processor,ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. RAMPAGE IV EXTREME

                                        +0.52%

                                        Firestrike Ultra:

                                        NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 Ti video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3930K Processor,ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. RAMPAGE IV EXTREME

                                        +0.78%

                                        Cloud Gate:

                                        NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 Ti video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3930K Processor,ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. RAMPAGE IV EXTREME

                                        • 3.03%

                                        Ice Storm Extreme:

                                        NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 Ti video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3930K Processor,ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. RAMPAGE IV EXTREME

                                        +1.25 %

                                        Sky Diver:

                                        NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 Ti video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3930K Processor,ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. RAMPAGE IV EXTREME

                                        +1.72%

                                        Heaven Full 1080p:

                                        +11.99%

                                        Metro Last Light

                                        +9,82%

                                        Then I continue editing XDDDD. The Cloud Gate is incredible, I put almost 1400 mhz and get the same as at 1300 mhz ;D, all the 3dmark tests are garbage, what a way to not represent performance …..

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                                          No validated result…:fumeta: they are not valid and yet I beat you in several.

                                          Go ahead, put a driver that validates it and it comes out in green... otherwise it is not valid, we continue 7-0 and think that you are picking up water vs my air and with home bios as you will see in the gpuz captures and the core in the benchmarks is the same. With all the results validated, I repeat yes, all of them.

                                          With the 970 good and voltages at 1,275 you can't smell me. So in my opinion you make a fool of yourself, keep trying and don't bother to put non-validated results that is ridiculous man.

                                          A normal 970 with home bios for air VS a 780ti for water at 1346 mhz.... hahahahaha.... jajaja... I am laughing my ass off. 300 and some euros vs 600 and some for custom ones that even today are worth...... do you want me to keep laughing at the owned....

                                          What are you using lucid virtu? that's why the driver is not approved....????? XDDDDD

                                          Go ahead, put an official driver and pass the tests with win 7 as I did.

                                          Yours is wanting and not being able, I see your face of repressed impotence behind a hurt ego.... ;D

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                                            Crying in the corner, excuses are for the mediocre, there you have the data, if you like it fine, if not fantastic, because I'm not going to change the driver validation that Futuremark didn't update, honestly, and even less when it no longer does strange things and works after the 350.12 and previous.

                                            It's a 10-0 like a temple, and lucky you didn't put the tomb raider, hitman etc etc... let's go, games, where the potential of the cards is really seen, you surely have your captures saved there and you don't bring them out so as not to look worse...

                                            Your tantrums are part of your frustration at being portrayed, once again, not even a 1650 comes close to a 970... but there's more, much more XD:

                                            Less than 1 fps against your supposed titan black, which is felt when for 400 euros less they are equal and knowing that the card is bad? It has to hurt your HUGE pride and ego.

                                            The one reading this must be feeling my owned as his own, there are quite a few who have you well aimed and I don't put links to your trollings and lies because I'm over the topic, but there are many, along with your phantoms all over the internet...

                                            Find the excuse you want, I'm going through it in an epic way, the 970 is no rival for the 780Ti and much less against a custom version. And if not soon we will see it:

                                            We'll see how the little one behaves XD.

                                            PD: Without bitterness, seriously, accept the defeat or go to a psychologist, it's a suggestion, I haven't put even one excuse, I've gone all out, to the card, without more, without restrictions and as I tell you it has been, is and will be above a 970 for quite a while.

                                            I hope you are half the man you say you are to recognize things as they are. If not, you have not only looked bad, you are going to look even worse.

                                            I will keep reporting XD.

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