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    • whoololonW Desconectado
      whoololon Veteranos HL
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      Beyond what was commented in this article from Ars Tecnica, the best thing to consider is that from here to three or four years, mechanical disks will be something superfluously optional.
      Let us remember that when the first CD-ROM units came out, back in '93 they cost around ten thousand pesetas…

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        I don't agree that the hard drive will end up becoming something optional. The mechanical hard drive has survived quite a few threats, not because of its versatility or capacity but because of something that is valued much more than any other factor: reliability.

        If the PC is used for leisure/gaming, SSD drives are basically already a substitute for the hard drive in every way (even in capacity). If the PC is used for work/productivity, the hard drive is still (and will be for a long time) a must.

        From my point of view, the capacity of SSD drives is no longer a limitation and I also think that when those 16Tb drives have a reasonable price, mechanical drives will multiply that capacity and have a lower price.

        The only thing that can bury the traditional hard drive are memories with such a high number of cycles that, on average, have a lifespan similar to a mechanical drive.

        In my desktop PC I have a 256Gb SSD where I have everything I need for day to day. Apart from that, I have a 2Tb hard drive for my data. If at the time of buying the drive for data I had the option to choose a 2Tb mechanical drive or a 2Tb SSD drive both at the same price, I would have chosen the mechanical drive.

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          Sylver Veteranos HL @cobito
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          Interesting matter. I have been paying attention and indeed, the option that cobito comments is getting closer and closer.

          Originally I banished SSDs because of their low reliability, I didn't want to spend a kidney on barely two years of efficiency.
          However, to this day, the reliability of SSDs has increased exponentially compared to one-two years ago. This, in my judgment, heralds what will be a very parallel escalation of efficiency and reliability in the coming times, and we could be on the eve of the reign of the long-lasting SSD.

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            This reminds me of over 10 years ago when hard drives were smaller, so the most normal thing to do a back up was to use dvd cases that were very cheap… before the SGAE Canon of course... So I'm not exaggerating when I say that I haven't bought a case in over 7-8 years.

            A 1 TB pendrive was around 90€ so I couldn't afford it. I have several hundred dvds that I haven't used in years, either with movie backups or with data etc. It even happens to me with music, I have all the original cds saved because I use digital copies.

            With this I want to say that everything changes. I get the impression that at the level of a normal user mechanical hard drives will continue to be used until SSDs are cheaper, but when a 1-2 TB SSD goes below 100€ I think people will prefer them over mechanical ones, and not to mention when they are cheaper than mechanical ones. There are years to go for this, but maybe not that many.

            In the end the technology of mechanical hard drives doesn't seem to have evolved for years. It's true that there are some 4-8 TB drives, but the most normal thing is still to buy drives of about 2 TB maximum and these drives existed years ago. I still remember buying 2 drives of 2 TB about 5-6 years ago for less than 70€.

            At that time I don't know if there were SSDs at the user level, with normal prices. I think not, but SSDs in a few years have dropped a lot in price and have increased their capacity and reliability.

            Many technological products come to market with flaws at first, but technologies are controlled over time and will affect the reliability and durability.De in the same way that I have mechanical drives over 10 years old that still work, the same will happen with SSDs.

            I use a 256 Gigas SSD and it's more than enough, but if for the same price I could have bought one of 2 TB :ugly: I would have bought it. Although I don't need that much space on a drive for the operating system and programs, the hard drive always ends up filling up :troll:

            Sorry for the rant :osvaisacagar:

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              kynes Veteranos HL @amd125
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              A couple of days ago I was thinking about this precisely, and capacities like those of before are no longer necessary. Fiber connections and streaming services mean that with much smaller size disks you can get by. It is true that there are still "enthusiasts" of quality who make copies of their blurays :troll: but with services like netflix when it comes out in Spain we will be able to get by with much smaller disks, not forgetting other services like pepitos and similar. I think this change in the capacity of connections has influenced a lot when it comes to users not missing the evolution of capacity in magnetic disks, and they can get by with an SSD of limited capacity.

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                It was not my intention to start a "magnetic vs solid state" debate, mainly because it is not worth considering.
                Similarly to CRT monitors when TFTs came out, their technology had almost completely exhausted its capacity and squeezing it out any further was not profitable. The evolution of TFTs, as of today, offers performance that is unattainable for CRTs.
                I believe the same thing happens with hard drives, and currently the technology used by SSDs is the one that is developing the most as it is used more and more intensively in the market for portable devices. Problems like lack of reliability, reduced lifespan or excessive cost have not only been reduced, but they have surpassed mechanical ones even in storage capacity, which only leads me to the conclusion I outlined above.

                As far as I know, the most a mechanical hard drive can store today is 10 TB, adding platters and sealing it with helium… I don’t want to imagine what the songs and movies stored there will sound like. Lost noses. :ugly:

                Mechanical drives will continue to be competitive as long as the cost per unit of storage is favorable for them. We’ll see.
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                  I think the capacity, performance and durability of SSDs along with the reduction in manufacturing costs per wafer are the ones that will soon take the mechanical disk to the hardware graveyard along with the floppy disk drive and the CRT monitor.

                  They will continue to be manufactured even if only because of the low cost for storage but as soon as the cost per GB is the same or less it's over because no one in their right mind will buy them.

                  How much time is left?… I don't know, I'm just a giant pink hedgehog not Rapel :troll:

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                    Well, it didn't take Seagate long.
                    They had already announced that they had managed to bring a 10 TB HDD to life, well, everything seems to indicate that it will be available to the public between what is left of this year and the next.
                    They advance that they suggest it is a unit destined for storage, because it seems that it will be somewhat slow.
                    However, about the sealed helium, they say that for now there is no talk of it.

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