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    • juajuajuajuanraJ Desconectado
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      Hello everyone!!!

      I want to give my small computer a little facelift to install Windows 7. I'm going to upgrade it to 4GB and a 256GB SSD. I'm going to keep everything else, although I'm considering changing the graphics:

      Motherboard: ASUS P5W DH Deluxe
      CPU: Conroe E6600@3600
      Current graphics: 8400GS

      What's the maximum I could put in terms of graphics without going overboard? I'm reading threads on tomshardware that say it would take advantage of up to a 750 ti, but it seems like an exaggeration to me.

      I know a Q6600 or similar would give more play, but I only want to change the graphics. What do you recommend? I'm finding them on ebay (new or factory restored) and they're tempting me:

      • GTX 550 ti 1GB - 69e
      • GTX 650 ti 1GB - 74e
      • GTX 750 1GB - 89e

      The use of this computer is FullHD movies and playing some games from the couch (even if you turn off effects), but I want to "extend" its use as much as possible with the best card I can handle (I'll decide which games I can play on this one and which ones on the other... hehe).

      P.D.: I only want NVIDIA, sorry for the fanaticism ?

      THANKS
      BEST

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      • FassouF Desconectado
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        Improvement of notaries with all, but being able to put a GTX750 :sisi:

        Salu2!

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        • krampakK Desconectado
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          On the paper the 650Ti looks better, but looking at real numbers it seems that the 750 wins in most games.

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          • juajuajuajuanraJ Desconectado
            juajuajuajuanra @krampak
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            Thank you so much for responding so quickly!!! I ask you, do you refer to the normal 750 or the 750 ti? It's that they are almost at the same price even the "750 ti" has 2GB instead of 1GB (although I won't need them)

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              In my case I was referring to the 750 bare. The 750Ti would undoubtedly be the best option of all but I doubt you'll find it for less than €130. The 650Ti Boost is also very good but you can always OC the 750 and surpass it, besides the fact that the 650 is already discontinued.

              Note that in my previous response there are 2 links, in the second one you can compare all the graphics models.

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              • FassouF Desconectado
                Fassou MODERADOR @krampak
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                I also think that the GTX750 "as is" is a very good option, but if they offer you the GTX750Ti for a little more, that's what you get (more memory and ROP's).

                Cheers!

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                • juajuajuajuanraJ Desconectado
                  juajuajuajuanra @Fassou
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                  I found this 650 TI BOOST on ebay in "Factory Restored" condition, do you see any problem with it?

                  VGA Graphics Card nVidia GIGABYTE GTX650TI OC Boost 1GB DDR5 GV-N65TBOC-1GD | eBay

                  Thanks
                  Best regards

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                  • whoololonW Desconectado
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                    It has 1 GB of DDR type memory (not GDDR). It's okay for watching videos, but it will greatly restrict the range of titles when it comes to gaming.

                    MSI GeForce GTX 750 Ti Gaming 2GB GDDR5 for 126 €.

                    ? ? ?

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                    • juajuajuajuanraJ Desconectado
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                      Many thanks to everyone!!! IN CHARGE!!! ?

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                      • krampakK Desconectado
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                        @whoololon:

                        Tiene 1 GB, de memoria tipo DDR (no GDDR). Para ver videos vale, pero te va a restringir mucho la oferta de títulos a la hora de jugar.

                        MSI GeForce GTX 750 Ti Gaming 2GB GDDR5 por 126 €.

                        ? ? ?

                        Yo diria que es un error en el anuncio lo de DDR5… seguro que lleva GDDR5, la gente tiene mania a olvidarse de la "G" <:(

                        PD: Un ejemplo: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 WindForce 3X OC 4GB DDR5 Tarjeta Gráfica

                        @juajuajuajuanra:

                        Muchas gracias a todos!!! ENCARGADA!!!

                        A disfrutarla pues! Ya comentarás que tal ?

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                        • amd125A Desconectado
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                          I would try to look for a Q6600 or similar. They can be found for around €40 and that would give the computer more flexibility. I know you don't want to change the micro, but check the second-hand market occasionally. I know you don't want to spend more, but if you have already expanded the memory, bought a graphics card and an SSD, then this will be little money compared to what you have already spent.

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                            I'll keep that in mind, THANK YOU!!!

                            This is going smoothly so far, the only problem is that I bought 2 modules of 2GB each and one of them is not working. While waiting for a replacement, I have been making progress with the installation.

                            I have another question, the other day while searching if the memory would be compatible with the motherboard I found this ( 8 GB Corsair ram on Asus P5W DH Deluxe - The Corsair User Forums? Keep in mind that you need to enabled the "Memory Remap" feature in your BIOS before you install Windows. If you install 8GB and enable this feature, you will need to re-install Windows as the kernel reacts differently with memory addressing

                            Does this mean that it will fill the 4 memory banks or just the fact of going from "Single channel" to "Dual channel"? I mean, do I have to reinstall the system when I mount the other memory module?

                            I knew that it was a good idea to reinstall the operating system after changing the graphics card, but I didn't know that it was necessary after expanding the memory.

                            Thanks
                            Best regards!!!

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                              You don't need to reinstall the OS when you change graphics, particularly on Windows because of the PnP issue.
                              It just detects the new hardware when you start up and installs the generic one, then you install the one from the disk (which I recommend you don't lose sight of) or the one from the nVidia page.
                              As for the memory issue, well, the "memory remap" used to activate it regardless of the RAM installed during assembly (they told me to do it that way and I got into the habit), so first make sure whether it is activated or not, in case it is not, you have to change it and reinstall. This function allows a 64-bit OS to access all the installed memory.

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                              • juajuajuajuanraJ Desconectado
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                                @whoololon:

                                You don't need to reinstall the OS when you change your graphics card, particularly on Windows because of the PnP issue.
                                It just detects the new hardware when you start up and installs the generic one, then you install the one from the disk (which I recommend you don't lose sight of) or the one from the nVidia website.
                                As for the memory issue, well, the "memory remap" used to activate it regardless of the RAM installed during the assembly (they told me to do it that way and I got into the habit), so first make sure whether it's activated or not, in case it's not, you have to change it and reinstall. This function allows a 64-bit OS to access all the installed memory.

                                Hello!!!

                                In fact now that the memory has arrived, I've checked that the BIOS won't even let you use all 4GB without the MEMORY REMAP.

                                That said, the computer is a bullet, I'd dare to say that when it comes to booting up, it takes less time than the I5 hehe

                                Thanks for the recommendations and help
                                BEST REGARDS!!!

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