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    2016 the year of saving

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    • FassouF Desconectado
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      Talking to a friend (yes, I have some), about upgrading one of his home computers, we started by commenting on the slight performance improvement between the latest generations of intel, that they have had to disable instructions and some micros "bend", and then that they have changed the Tic - Toc story for Tic-Toc-Toc, that then we can't expect much, etc, etc … I was wondering if then the best thing would be to hold on to the hardware waiting for the novelties that seem to be coming by the end of the year.

      On the one hand we have the numerous "leaks" that place the new high-end graphics, the ones that will mount HBM2 (Pascal and Polaris) by the end of the year, and their relationship and development of connectivity related to the topic of fashion (VR).

      On the other hand, the "innocent insinuations" that we will already receive in summer a sample of the graphic potential with the arrival of some mid-range cards, still with GDDR5 and some with XGDDR5, taking advantage of the more than likely massive adoption of DX12, Windows 10 through (end of free upgrade), with its until now "magical" way of taking advantage of different cards and resources in an efficient way, in a way never seen before :troll: in a Windows.

      Other news, take for granted that the expected Zen (8x) of AMD, will arrive for AM4 by the end of the year, and will have (this time seriously) a surprising performance per thread that will bring it (finally) closer to Intel, thanks to the collaboration of the good Jim Keller, who already made merits in the past with the Athlon. Which incidentally will complete the replacement of DDR4, to our beloved and long-lived memories DDR3.

      All this, added to that I also think we can say that the hardware is somewhat expensive due to the issue of almost parity with the dollar (USD), and that except for the SSDs that fortunately are becoming more and more economical, it is normal to have nostalgia for those good times when you were given a dollar and a half for each €uro, back in 2008. Before someone starts talking about lowering the price of money, and that they almost give it away, or whatever they have told you at the bank, maybe it seems like a good idea to wait.

      Or what do you think, what do you think?

      Salu2!

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        I agree, and even more so, I would say that it is the year of "second chances", which I have certainly been doing since January ?

        Personally, I hope that my 2500K :love: will keep fighting for much longer, which will lead me to upgrade within two or three future generations of Intel, at least… And about the SSDs, by the time they match the €/gb price of HDDs, I think my 256Gb 850 Pro will still have a warranty left :risitas:

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        >> Athlon 64 X2 5600+ Brisbane @2.9GHz || Gigabyte GA-M61PME-S2 || 2x2Gb DDR2 Kingston 800MHz || Sapphire Radeon HD 5850 Xtreme 1Gb || Maxtor 320Gb SATA2 || OCZ ModXStream 500W Modular || TEAC PowerMax 120/2 || Acer X243w 24"
        >> Intel Core2Duo E6600 Conroe @2.4GHz || Asus P5N32-SLI SE DELUXE || 2x1Gb DDR2 Kingston 800MHz || Asus nVidia GeForce 9800GT 1Gb GDDR3 || Seagate Barracuda IDE 80Gb 7200RPM || Linkworld LPK12-35 450W

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          Just to comment that nVIDIA has announced that they will release their new graphics cards with XGDDR5, downplaying the HBM2 issue and boasting that their chips will work with all types of memory, and that AMD will use the Polaris name for everything new, except for what they release with HBM2, which they will call Vega, maintaining the already mentioned release estimates.

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            The nVidia thing reminds me of those big races where the first one knows he's going to win and it seems like he's in one race and the rest in another, and that this will only change with something less than a miracle.

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              If Zen comes out as expected, Intel will lower prices, right?
              Will VR be polished enough for mass adoption, finding content, etc. by then, or will it be a bit later?
              I haven't been very up to date in a while, but it looks like there will be a decent leap in terms of micro, we'll have to see how much they want for the new one, how much the current one drops, and tests, lots of tests, well, the usual, waiting for rumors and announcements.

              Salu2.

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                For example, they say that the memories "can" go down to 40%, that the new Pascal will continue to have the asynchronous shaders choked, and that Intel will sleep in the vine for lack of a competitor.
                Without a doubt, 2016 will be more or less the same as 2015. ?

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                  I think the same. I hope the new AMD micros perform well, but AMD stopped surprising years ago, and that's bad for the market and for the end consumer.

                  Another thing is that thanks to them, people with micros from several generations ago still have equipment for a few years. The one who bought an I5 K like the 2500-2600-2700 at the time won, because today, unless you need a PC at the latest to work, they are still very good micros. This is good.

                  The bad part, the one who spends money on an Intel now, will see that they pay a lot for a performance not much better than that of years ago. I'm talking about micros for the average user. The one who has equipment of several thousand Euros with professional boards, will have noticed something more of a change.

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                    +1

                    The AMD thing is not just a matter of anticipation for their product, it would be very good for the customer in terms of price, and it would also force Intel to wake up if it wants to continue to pull away, and of course it would accelerate the adoption of those technological novelties that are coming like VR.
                    If Intel doesn't make a move, this is the only indicator of a possible decent evolutionary leap, and I imagine that by then Intel will have its cards ready as always.

                    I have a lot of anticipation, and I'm not going to spend a dime ja ja ;D
                    When the FX came out, I don't know if it was with this anticipation of its release or if it was a little later, they started to know that they weren't going to be as expected (if I remember correctly), and from Zen to the moment they say it meets expectations, no bottleneck detected!yes

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                      Although Intel may seem very far from AMD, in reality, in addition to major advances such as Tri-Gate and improvements in its iGPU, they have also had several important failures, both in their microprocessors and chipsets (instructions that do not work well, processors that bend, SATA controllers that degrade...).

                      Perhaps at Intel they have once again encountered a wall in their evolution, and they may have to be AMD again to show them the way, as in the era of slot processors.

                      Salu2!

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