Curiosity for an ignorant person like me.

[QVENGADOR]

They are going to release the nividia 1070 around $500 and instead they continue to sell the titan black for €800. It is supposed that the 1070 is better than the titan black. Why doesn't the price of the latter go down?
Thanks for reading me.

[kynes]

The Titan Black is very good for other types of tasks, such as 64-bit floating point operations at 1/3 the rate of 32-bit instead of 1/24, which makes it a very good card at a very affordable price for certain markets such as weather simulations, earthquakes, fluids, stock market…

[whoololon]

If… sure it will be 500 €... :troll:
First, because the 1070 is not for sale yet, and second, because the 1070 is not for sale yet... well and what Kynes says too. :chuckles:

[kynes]

The MRSP (manufacturer's recommended selling price) of the 1070 is $379, which is around €450-480 after exchange and taxes. I hope they don't mark it up too much.

[Espinetenbolas]

It should also be noted that you do not buy directly from the manufacturer… computer stores are RETAILERS who have purchased the product from a distributor who in turn has BOUGHT the product from the manufacturer.

Every time it changes hands, there is a commission percentage that is taken by each intermediary involved in the distribution of said product, because in the final price, the ones who get the biggest slice are the states with taxes and the manufacturer.

What I mean is that the product that is sold has been previously bought at a price and therefore cannot be suddenly lowered unless the distributor or the manufacturer are giving them away.

The normal thing is to stop having stock and liquidate at a bargain price in order to lose as little as possible before the new models arrive... the tricky part is when both generations have to be sold at the same time... that's why the 1080s and 1070s are going to be sold at very high prices at the start... then it will normalize.

Finally, discounts are made and money is lost when selling the old ones, although Black Friday is usually taken advantage of to unload them... just like it happens with many other products that used to be high-end.

[whoololon]

It's official now: 780 euros for the GTX 1080 founders edition. :osvaisacagar:

[Espinetenbolas]

That at Coolmod at PCComponentes 785€, at Xtremmedia 799€ and in Europe for 789€ any Founders Ed. model.

699$ = 800€ :facepalm:

And people selling their 980Ti for 450€… people are very crazy.

[whoololon]

I still remember that "when the 9x0s come down"… second-hand and right now, knowing what the 1080 FE costs, neither.
But they're not going to come down. The stores that have stock will keep them at the same price, and they'll just keep coming out; because I bet the new ones won't be cheaper, no matter how many polls people do.

The scenario, as I see it:

• The second-hand market is filled with 970, 980 and 980 Ti "at a discount". Many are sticking with integrated graphics waiting for the 1080.
• May 27, the 1080 comes out (at the price it comes out at), and even though it's an FE, with only one connector, people are already depleting their reserves.
• The remaining second-hand 9x0s go up in price again. The stores keep the price of the stock.
• June 1, AMD releases Zen and Polaris.
• June 10, nVidia releases the 1070.
• October. AMD releases Vega and nVidia does the same with the 1050 and 1060.

"Until the end of the year
don't buy a graphics card
if you can manage."
:ugly:

[Fassou]

@whoololon:

"Until the end of the year
don't buy a graphics card
if you can manage."

You came across as funny, yes

As for nVIDIA, the difference with previous generations is that in this one they have released something more to cushion the supposed great advance of AMD in consumer graphics cards (it remains to be seen the performance of one and the other), and that you won't have to wait several months to be able to buy your own versions of the assemblers, since they will be sold from day one, along with the reference ones.

Regarding prices, the same pattern is followed as with the games, a lot of hype, encouraging early purchases and a blow until demand falls. Anyway, they are more interested in selling a few very expensive ones, than many with less unit profit.

Salu2!

[QVENGADOR]

Thanks guys it has been very educational.