Graphics card recommendation
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Hello, companions, I wanted to ask you about which graphics card to buy for my computer.
I have the following hardware:
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Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 G0 2.4Ghz FSB 1066 8MB Box
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Corsair HX620W Modular 620W
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Antec Twelve Hundred
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Asus P5Q Deluxe Socket 775
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Dell UltraSharp U2713HM 27'' LED
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Zotac Geforce GTX 570 1280MB GDDR5
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G.Skill F2-8800CL5D-4GBPI 4GB (2x2GB) DDR2-1100Mhz
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OCZ Vertex 3 SATA3 2,5'' SSD 120GB
I know the computer seems old, but it runs pretty well. My idea was to change the 570 for a 970, and I saw the EVGA GeForce GTX 970 SSC Gaming ACX 2.0+ 4GB GDDR5 on sale for 289€
The question is: Do you think I will gain a lot of graphical performance with the change? Is it worth it? Would another graphics card be more recommendable for my hardware?
Currently I can play anything with what I have, obviously without raising the graphical performance much, but in games like darksouls III, the exteriors are horrible with the lag that is generated in the game, I suppose because of the low video memory, and I have the feeling that by putting a more current graphics card it could last a few more years with this computer.
Anyway, any advice or suggestion would be appreciated.
Regards
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Micro and RAM will limit you a lot. At most I would put a 470 and I already think it's too much. The minimum would be to expand 2x2GB of RAM and a 750 Ti. You can go for 4GB extra and a 950 Ti for example, 200 euros:http://xtremmedia.com/Gigabyte_GeForce_GTX950_OC_2GB_GDDR5.html
If you don't have a decent cooler, get one and overclock the micro. 3.2GHz (400x8) would be very good, if it doesn't reach 3GHz you should make it (333x9). With a 200 budget I would go for the Gigabyte 750 Ti WindForce with a 212X if you need cooling.
http://xtremmedia.com/Pny_DDR2_2GB_800MHz_CL5.html (x2)Editing: I just saw that you have a 1440p monitor. If you can afford it go for the 470 if you want but really, I wouldn't invest a dime in that system, I would just switch to a new platform when you have the money. If possible an i5 6500 and a 1060.
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Thanks for your reply, obione.
I already thought about upgrading the RAM a while ago, but I couldn't find other memos like the ones I currently have, and these aren't too bad, I have them stable at 550 and the micro at 2.7. The truth is that I don't think raising the micro will make much difference in current games; I think the key is in the graphics and the amount of vram I have available.
Those memos that you put me would lower my performance, besides that working in quad I think would be even worse with my architecture. The ideal would be to get 2x4GB like the ones I have, but it's something impossible to achieve, so there's nothing to do about it. Hence the idea of changing the graphics to a more decent one with more RAM.
I think that for spending 150 luros on a 950, I almost stay with the 570, I don't think I'll gain much with the change.
Maybe the 470 you mention can be a better option. Is there much difference in performance with the 970??
Thankssss
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The idea that these memories are impossible to get, I think is an exaggeration because if they exist, they exist.
It's different if one sees it as prudent to spend 80 € on 4 GB of DDR2 memory.Predicting that a Q6600 won't bottleneck a 970 is being very optimistic, but very optimistic indeed. But the truth is that it will bottleneck it and quite badly no matter how much you overclock that micro.
My suggestion is not far from Obione's, if you really love the system, a 750 Ti is already killing it.
Here's a Q6600 asking the referee the time while playing GTA 5 with a 750 Ti.
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If you're excited to buy a GTX 970 and keep it for when you change platforms, that's up to you.I wouldn't recommend it at all.
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The thing about those memories being impossible to get, I think it's an exaggeration because if they exist, they exist.
Well, listen, if you can tell me where to get them, I'd appreciate it.
Predicting that a Q6600 won't bottleneck a 970 is being very optimistic, but very optimistic indeed. But the truth is that it will bottleneck it and quite badly, no matter how much you overclock that micro.
I'm not predicting, I'm asking. And the thing about overclocking the micro isn't my idea, I already said I don't think it will improve things much on that side. I'm really asking if it will notice a reasonable improvement compared to what I have. With a 970 or whatever.
My suggestion isn't far from Obione's, if you really love the hardware, a 750 Ti is already killing it.
Ok, I'm getting an idea. Although for little more, the 950 seems more interesting. But do you really think I'll notice it compared to a 570?
That you're excited to buy a GTX 970 and have it for when you change platforms, well that's up to you.
I wouldn't recommend it at all.
Well, man, excitement as such, no. The idea is the one I mentioned in the first post. A recommendation to improve the graphics of my computer, especially if it's really worth it. If not, then I'll consider changing the entire computer, of course.
The thing about the 970 was more about the offer and stuff, it's not that I particularly like that card more than any other.
Well, thanks for your opinion.
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Regarding the graphics, there is the best and there is the good. The best would be a GTX 950, but with that processor, which simply takes your hat off for what it rendered in its time, starting from a GTX 750 or a 750Ti it can't give any more.
But as for whether the 750 Ti is much better than the GTX 570, and I'm preparing the umbrella, it's no.To gain performance, the most sensible thing is to change platforms.
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If it were for 1080p, your best bet would be to go for a 750 Ti. It's not a huge leap, but that extra vRAM is necessary. Another thing is if you were going to change platforms soon. In that case, you could buy a 1060 6GB.
The memory won't give you performance, like if you have 667 for 3GHz 333x9. With the ones I give you, you can be sure you'll reach 400x8.
That said, if there's a budget, go for an i5 6500 if possible with 2x8GB of RAM. If there's no money, a 950 at most.
Editing: That's not a good deal, for that money you can get a 1060 6GB Palit or KFA2.
Anyway, given that you play last-gen titles like Dark Souls III, I wouldn't consider stretching anything below an i5 750 overclocked. If you want those games to run well, you should go at least to a 6300, and if you're at it, add 50 bucks and you have a 6500 with double the cores for 200€ + cooler for 20€ and motherboard for about 75€ with cooling on VRM and 4 RAM slots to put 2x4GB for 40€ and expand later. Of course, you would have to add a GPU. For me, the ideal is a 1060 that you can get for 300€. I know it hurts, but if you're going to make the jump, I think it's ideal, saving about 650€ and selling the 775 platform if you're not going to use it in another computer, even more so when it comes to 1440p. Your computer has given you a lot of trouble.
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Thanks, tío.
Regarding the graphics card, there's the best option and there's the good one. The best would be a GTX 950, but that processor, which simply takes off your hat for what it could do in its time, can't go beyond a GTX 750 or a 750Ti.
But as for whether the 750 Ti is much better than the GTX 570, and I'm preparing my umbrella, the answer is no.To gain performance, the most sensible thing is to change the platform.
Well, I hadn't really considered changing a 570 for a 750.
I guess it's time to upgrade. After all, this computer is from 2008. Although it's true that the computer works very well, and you can really play anything on it. I thought that by putting in a 970 or something similar, things would improve quite a bit and I would save having to change everything.
If it were for 1080p, the thing to do would be to settle for a 750 Ti. It's not that it's a huge leap, but that extra vRAM is necessary. Another thing is that you were going to change platforms soon. In that case, as if you were buying a 1060 6GB.
The memory won't give you performance, like if you have a 667 for 3GHz 333x9. With the ones I put you can make sure you reach 400x8.
As I said, if there's a budget, jump to an i5 6500 if possible with 2x8GB of RAM. If there's no money, a 950 at most.
Editing: That's a bad deal, for that money you have a 1060 6GB Palit or KFA2.
Anyway, given that you play last-generation titles like Dark Souls III, I wouldn't consider stretching anything below an i5 750 overclocked. If you want those games to run well, you need to go at least to a 6300, and if you're at it, put 50 more euros and you have a 6500 with double the cores for 200€ + cooler for 20 euros and motherboard with 4 RAM slots to assemble 2x4GB of 40 euros and expand later. Of course, you would have to add a GPU. For me, the ideal is a 1060 that you can get for 300€. I know it hurts, but if you're going to make the leap, it seems ideal to me, save 650€ and sell the 775 platform if you're not going to use it in another computer, even more so when it comes to 1440p. Your computer has given you quite a fight.
Ok, thanks for the info.
I'll weigh what to do.
A thousand thanks
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I wouldn't spend more money on that platform. Another thing is that with some Kingston DDR2 800 chummy memories I had it at 3.2 It's not that a Q6600 at 3.2 is a cucumber, but with a more decent graphics card it can still give you joys.
Anyway, 4 Gigas of Ram for many games are few. I had the Q6600 with 4 Gigas. It was moving to the FX 8350 with 12 Gigas of Ram two and a half years ago and with the same graphics card, the change in games was brutal. BF4 with the Q6600 had micro pauses… and with the FX 8350 I did very well (that yes I played at low resolution because I had a 17"). I wouldn't recommend spending more money on memory, unless you find a good offer for 8 Gigas, sell your memories and the investment is small. Today it's better to have 8 Gigas of Ram brand turkey... than 4 Gigas of the hell.
Regarding the graphics card, the 970 GTX is still a very cool graphics card, but Nvidia likes to cap their previous generation graphics cards via drivers, so I would almost recommend an AMD 480. It performs similarly, but it probably has more life ahead.
I also tell you that you might find some cool second-hand graphics card and you don't have to spend much. I went from an AMD 5850 Xtreme (which I sold for 30-40 cheap for the time) to an AMD 7950 that I bought more than two years ago for 100€ and although I play little, my current monitor is 2560*1440 and it still defends itself if I don't put everything on ultra obviously. For your graphics card you could get about 40-50€, so you could get a performance similar to double for little money. The pity is that the AMD 7950-7970 have hardly decreased in price in the last two years, second-hand. In Nvidia the 750 doesn't perform badly for the price at which you can buy it second-hand.
In the end I don't see a problem in starting by changing the graphics card, and if you see that you don't get convinced of the results, change the platform. That yes, avoid spending much on updating that platform. It doesn't perform badly with some current games, but it already has many years behind it.
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Hey, Antonio, cuánto tiempo, cómo te va tío??
Ok, gracias por la info. Pensaré en ello. Realmente creía que este micro daba más de sí, jaja. Tengo que echarle un vistazo al tema del OC, porque lo cierto es que me he limitado a subirlo un poco con el EPU-6 Engine que viene de serie con la placa. Tal vez me consiga 8 GB chusqueros por ahí y pruebe a ver qué saco.
Mil gracias, en serio.
