Desktop computer setup

[saludes.86]

Hello friends.

After years of being disconnected from hardware, I find myself in need of buying a desktop computer. As I long for the days when I bought the components and assembled them at home, I want to do it again to soothe my sweet nostalgia.

As I said before, it's been a long time since I've been up to date on components and I need your help. I have chosen some components to get a first impression:

Motherboard\tAsus\tH110M-K
Processor\tIntel\ti7-4790 3,6GHz
RAM\tKingston\tHyperX Fury DDR3 8GB 1600MHz
Graphics\tnVidia\tStrix GTX960 2GB GDDR5
Hard Drive\tSandisk\tSSD Ultra II 480GB SATA 6GB/s

All of this for 775€.
Ideally, I would like to lower the price by about 100€. I will use the PC for work (programming) and not too much gaming. Is there something that doesn't fit? Would it be good to lower the power of some component to increase another? How many W should the power supply have? 600, 700?

Thank you very much in advance!

[Fassou]

First of all, Welcome to the forum

So for now, you put DDR3 memory on a board with DDR4

[rul3s]

First of all... that motherboard is for 6 series processors, 6XXX, not for 4XXX series, so you're taking a top-of-the-range CPU with a basic range motherboard, and then the memory doesn't match that motherboard either.

Look for a motherboard that is the right socket, 1150 but not the most basic chipset, if you want to put an i7 look at least for a motherboard with an H97.
The rest, it's not a sin but I would change the Sandisk SSD for a Samsung Evo.

And regarding the price, if you want to lower it you can put an i5 without problems, you will still have plenty of power, although if you're not going to play much, the graphics can be put a 1050 for example.

Regards.

[whoololon]

@saludes.86
As already mentioned, that Frankenstein is not viable.

You can lower it, of course, but you obviously cut back on features.

Here I leave an all-terrain configuration; going for an i7 with that budget doesn't seem pertinent to me, not in a 1150 or a 1151, since you would have to cut back on the graphics or use integrated graphics directly.
LGA 1150
LGA 1151
If when you play you do so with titles from five or six years ago, there's no problem, but for recent titles, the gaming experience would suffer and quite a bit.

Best regards.

[saludes.86]

Hello.

I think I have made clear my complete ignorance about hardware.... You disconnect for 1 decade and forget everything. I thought the motherboard was also compatible for DDR3, that's what the Asus website made me think.

Whoololon, your configuration seemed good to me. I have modified the hard drive. I remove the 1TB hard drive and expand the SSD. The reason? I have never used more than 200gb of space on a pc. So I prefer to have a little more space on SSD.

16GB of RAM sounds better than 8GB, but do you think it's worth it or is 8GB enough?

This is how the configuration would be:

https://www.pccomponentes.com/configurador/22BeE9DdB

Thank you very much.

[whoololon]

If I understand you correctly, I'm still having trouble adapting to the new BIOS/UEFI; but that's what we're here for. :desktop:
The amount of RAM depends on what you need; you can always buy an extra module or use a swap file, now with SSDs it's much less noticeable.

It should be noted that when an SSD fails, it doesn't warn you.
This doesn't mean it lasts more or less than a mechanical one, it just means that when you diagnose it as failing, it's usually too late.
Once you know this, it goes without saying that it's better to have a backup elsewhere, an HDD, cloud, USB... you choose.

The thing about DDR3 memory on 1151 motherboards needs to be read more carefully: indeed it supports DDR3 format memory, **as long as they are DDR3L**.

The difference between a DDR3 and a DDR3L is that although they share the same format, the latter work at a lower voltage (DDR3 >=1.5 V vs DDR3L 1.35 V).

Since the new Skylake don't support voltages higher than 1.35 V (DDR4 work at 1.2 V); putting in normal DDR3 will fry the IMC of the micro.
:nerd:
But anyway, that's just to clarify the doubt. Now just weigh whether that configuration is suitable for you; since I don't know what you program or what games you play, I can't give more precise advice.

[saludes.86]

I program in php and work with a virtual machine with linux. For the type of programming I use I don't need great performance, with the PC I had before: Core2Duo and 4gb of ram I had more than enough.

About games... I usually play on the xbox. The PC will be more for playing multi games with friends like those from valve, civilization... I'm not going to play Battlefield 1 and things like that.

That my hard drive crashes would only bother me with the fact that it would break and I would have to reinstall everything again. I always have important things in several places, I already had a bad experience with an external hard drive that died...

About the fact of having an Intel processor and ati graphics is it not "bad"? I believed that graphics and cpu should go hand in hand: intel with nVidia, AMD with ATI. Or is that already in the past?
Thanks.

[whoololon]

So you have more than enough machine.

The thing about the graphics, it has nothing to do, in fact I have an AMD K7 with a GeForce 2 MX, and an Athlon 3200 with an ATI RX9800 that I changed for a 6500GT (which lasted me two months and I had to go back to ATI)

[saludes.86]

Thanks whoololon for your help. You are a wise man.

[whoololon]

@saludes.86 No es verdad, pero gracias.

[saludes.86]

@whoololon one last question.
The RX 460 is for 140€ and the RX nitro 460 for 150€.
The difference in money is small, is it worth those 10€ extra for the nitro?

[whoololon]

Simply, the Sapphire is 50 Hz faster than the XFX... is that worth it?
Well, in my opinion, no.

[saludes.86]

I have already received the PC. I have assembled it, plugged it in, installed everything, played...
It's great, it hardly makes any noise and the PC is so powerful. Thank you very much for everything whoololon!!!