Doubt. Can the weight of the heatsink damage the motherboard or the processor?

[josephcurwen]

Hello everyone.

I am upgrading my processor to an 7600K on an MSI Z170A Krait Gaming 3X, and I have a question about which cooler to install, considering two options:

Cooler Master Hyper 212 X.

Be Quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4.

At first, I would opt for the Dark Rock, but I saw that its weight is 1.13kg, and I read an article explaining that version 3 of this cooler can damage the processor ("I suspect that the cooler (be quiet! - DARK ROCK PRO 3) bent the substrate of the CPU") in a couple of years.

On the other hand, the Hyper 212 X weighs about half a kilo, which is not negligible either.

I know that the Hyper 212 X sells like hotcakes, but I don't know if the cooling it achieves can be enough. Initially, I don't plan to overclock the i5, but I don't rule it out for later.

Have you had any problems with such heavy coolers in this sense. How much weight can this motherboard (MSI Z170A Krait Gaming 3X) safely support? Can the Hyper 212 X provide enough cooling for the 7600K?

Best regards.

JosephCurwen

[krampak]

I doubt there's a problem, you just have to be careful when transporting/moving the tower, so it's better to do it with the tower horizontal because it can damage the board, although I imagine there are many other options between those two in terms of weight and efficiency, but the Hyper 212 X certainly already meets and exceeds, even with some overclocking.

[whoololon]

@josephcurwen I have an NH-D14, with its two fans and its kilo and a quarter of weight; in February it will be five years old. No problems, only joys.

In terms of dissipation, as in everything: "When in doubt, the most..."

[josephcurwen]

@whoololon @krampak Many thanks, comrades. I feel more at ease with what Whoololon has commented, and I will take into account removing the heatsink if I need to transport the tower. In August we easily exceeded 30º here, so it's better to be prepared.

Kind regards.

JosephCurwen

[_Neptunno_]

@whoololon uf, what a big heatsink the NH-14 joe!! Although the Be Quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 that @josephcurwen mentions is not bad, oh my God!!
Of course, many times these beasts are better than some RL AIOs that you eventually have to worry about failing after several years of use and don't have temperatures that correspond to what you would expect from an RL.
I have a Thermaltake Frio and it's the most beastly thing I've had at home, I can say that I put my i7 920 at 4.4/4.5Ghz without problems (the biggest OC I've ever done, and without much experience!!) and the TT was going at incredible temperatures.

Buah, what memories of how that 920 went from 2.6@4.4/4.5

[josephcurwen]

Provisionally I am going to install a Cryorig H7, as an intermediate solution, and I will see how the temperatures go over the next few months. Depending on the results, I will either get the Dark Rock Pro 4 or not. The Cryorig H7 performs slightly better in terms of temperature and silence than the C.M. Hyper 212 X, according to what I have been reviewing in comparisons, it is also more compact and not much heavier.

[whoololon]

@josephcurwen Keep in mind that it's a bad time to go testing heatsinks.

Apart from that, normally the more mass it has, the better it will dissipate. A heatsink of half a kilo that melts the rest of its weight is a masterpiece of engineering and consequently would cost more.

For the season and the temperatures we are having, any junk with a fan that you put on will get you out of trouble; but as soon as Lorenzo tightens up and you start to push it... that's where one heatsink differs from another.

If you haven't bought it yet, the Mugen 5 rev2 from Scythe is much more efficient than the Cryorig H5/H7, but still inferior to a DRPRO4 when the time comes.

If you are so worried about the catastrophe that a large air heatsink could cause, go for the AIO or a custom RL. That said, you are going to change one worry for another, spending more.

[rul3s]

@whoololon said in Doubt. Can the weight of the heatsink damage the motherboard or the processor?:

@josephcurwen Keep in mind that it's a bad time to be testing heatsinks.

Apart from that, normally the more mass it has, the better it will dissipate. A heatsink that weighs half a kilo that outshines the rest of its weight is a masterpiece of engineering and consequently would cost more.

Given the season and the temperatures we're having, any fan-based rig you put in will get you out of trouble; but as soon as Lorenzo tightens up and you start pushing it... that's where one heatsink differs from another.

If you haven't bought it yet, the Mugen 5 rev2 from Scythe is much more efficient than the Cryorig H5/H7, but still inferior to a DRPRO4 when the time comes.

If you're so worried about the catastrophe that a large air-based heatsink could cause, go for AIO or a custom RL. That said, you're going to trade one worry for another, spending more.

I, on the other hand, would stay very far away from Scythe as a brand, because of their terrible after-sales service (not product quality).

In my case, I have a Scythe Ninja that's dead to me at home because Scythe won't send me the appropriate mounts to make use of it, I'm not saying for free, I'm saying not even if I pay.

[whoololon]

What version of the Ninja is it?

[rul3s]

@whoololon said in Doubt. Can the weight of the heatsink damage the motherboard or the processor?:

What version of the Ninja is it?

It's version 1, but according to forums, it's been proven that the v2's mounting system would work, and yet they still wouldn't send it to me even if I paid.
I searched on ebay and in the end I just left it be, it was costing me more than the dog.

[whoololon]

According to the manufacturer's page (in a press release dated early 2017), only version 4 of the Ninja is compatible with AM4; just by looking at the layout of the heatpipes it explains why.

Ninja Plus

Ninja ver. 4

[rul3s]

@whoololon said in Duda. ¿Peso del disipador puede llegar a dañar la placa base o el procesador?:

According to the manufacturer's page (in a press release dated early 2017), only version 4 of the Ninja is compatible with AM4; just by looking at the layout of the heatpipes it explains why.

Ninja Plus

Ninja ver. 4

Nono, I wasn't referring to AM4, I was really looking for one that was compatible with 1155, which wasn't that far from the 775 that was initially, but no, they didn't want to.
Anyway, be that as it may, Noctua for example sells/gives you the kit to make it compatible, we're not talking about $30 coolers here, so they shouldn't become obsolete in 1 generation...
They just had to make the plastic piece adjusted to 1150/1155/1151 and they would have given it much more life, but thinking about the customer 0, that they buy another one and air it.
They won't make any more money from me, not in my PCs or in any of the ones I build.

[whoololon]

Well, interestingly enough, I found an article on using a 775 compatible heatsink on an 1155 board... which happens to be an AsRock Z77 Extreme4, does that ring a bell?

Apparently, Asrock boards from that era keep the holes for 775, mine has them too (Extreme6)

Source: GamersNexus

I've also seen an adapter for 775 - 115x 113x.

[rul3s]

@whoololon said in Duda. ¿Peso del disipador puede llegar a dañar la placa base o el procesador?:

Well, interestingly enough, I found an article about using a 775 compatible cooler on a 1155 motherboard... which happens to be an AsRock Z77 Extreme4. Does that sound familiar to you?

Apparently, Asrock motherboards from that era kept the holes for 775; mine also has them (Extreme6).

Source: GamersNexus

I've also seen an adapter for 775 - 115x 113x.

Exactly, Asrock maintained compatibility by making holes for both, although when I wanted to use it, I didn't have an Asrock specifically
On the other hand, that adapter won't work unless you drill holes in the motherboard, and I don't think that's something we're going to do xD

[josephcurwen]

@whoololon said in Doubt. Can the weight of the heatsink damage the motherboard or the processor?:

Mugen 5 rev2 by Scythe

Many thanks, Whoololon. I have already installed the H7, but I will take note of your advice as I might try the Scythe later, or on other computers. If things get crazy this summer, I will try to fix it with the Dark Rock 4.
The truth is that water doesn't fully convince me for my own computers, although I have built them for clients a long time ago.