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    Duda, accept store configurations or make your own?

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    • QVENGADORQ Desconectado
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      Good morning:

      I have always tried to buy the complete configurations that are sold in stores. However, I read in an article that one should not trust the configurations too much because many times they depended on the best prices offered to the stores by the component manufacturers.
      I ask for your opinion on this matter. And also a question that I can't decide: i7 or i9.
      Thank you for reading me.

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      • SylverS Desconectado
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        Hello,

        I always trust the components that I can choose personally. However, if a pre-assembled computer at a good price included the components I need, I could consider it. It is a matter of each person looking at prices separately based on their needs.

        Regarding the i7 or i9 question, it depends on what you need it for and your budget, but without more data and without a budget limit, the bigger horse is always better (i9).

        Best regards

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          @QVENGADOR First you have to take into account what you need and how much you can spend, although this would be true for almost anything you want to buy.
          The thing about computers assembled by stores or even from famous brands like Dell or HP, well I don't see them as bad if you don't have time to build your own PC or don't have some basic knowledge. In my own work lately we have had to buy some assembled computers, when usually we used to assemble them ourselves. The reason is lack of time, basically we lack time for other tasks and that's why we go for the easy way…although we always look carefully at what computer we buy.

          About i7/i9…either one will give you good performance, but if you want to squeeze the most out of it you will have to spend more and buy the i9. However maybe you should consider the Ryzen 5000 ?

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            Thanks for your comments. For now I'm just feeling out the issue. I've looked at prices and they seem to be through the roof. Or so I think.
            I'm not in a hurry so I'm taking it easy.

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              The thing is that top-of-the-range CPUs tend to be sky-high ? Another thing is to look for a Top from the previous generation, or to consider whether a Ryzen 5 5000 or an i5 of the 11th Gen might be more than enough for you.
              I don't know if you're planning to change the whole PC, but if you also need a graphics card, you might be interested in looking for a pre-assembled PC like those from pccomponentes or coolmod, for example, and it might come out a little cheaper.

              Not too long ago, a colleague at work bought an i5 11th Gen + RTX3070Ti (with a good tower, RL, SSD, etc.) for around 1700-1800€. In my opinion, it seemed expensive to me (if it were an i9 or a Ryzen 9, at least…) but I suppose that if he had built the team with that 3070TI, it would have cost him very similarly, in the end, nowadays what used to be a good team of 800-1000€ has gone up to almost 1800-2000 easily.

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                @_Neptunno_
                I'm just looking for a rig that will let me play warzone at at least 125 fps. And as for the graphics, I have an RTX 2070 Super, and I don't plan on changing it for now.
                But the RTX with my micro, Intel Core i7 4820k, is underutilized. Especially if I throw OBS into the mix. I mean, it's not like we're doing it professionally. But my friends and I are so clumsy that we record ourselves on video so we can laugh for a while. Just think about us being old men playing.
                I still don't understand how an i5 is more powerful than an i7. What's the point of that?

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                  @QVENGADOR said in Duda, ¿Aceptar configuraciones de tiendas o hacerse una propia?:

                  I still don't understand why an i5 is more powerful than an i7. What does that mean?

                  If they are from different generations, the technology has improved from one architecture to another, and therefore the performance that the most recent "medium" range can offer is superior to that which the obsolete "high" range can offer (not always, but most of the time).

                  Greetings

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                  >> Athlon 64 X2 5600+ Brisbane @2.9GHz || Gigabyte GA-M61PME-S2 || 2x2Gb DDR2 Kingston 800MHz || Sapphire Radeon HD 5850 Xtreme 1Gb || Maxtor 320Gb SATA2 || OCZ ModXStream 500W Modular || TEAC PowerMax 120/2 || Acer X243w 24"
                  >> Intel Core2Duo E6600 Conroe @2.4GHz || Asus P5N32-SLI SE DELUXE || 2x1Gb DDR2 Kingston 800MHz || Asus nVidia GeForce 9800GT 1Gb GDDR3 || Seagate Barracuda IDE 80Gb 7200RPM || Linkworld LPK12-35 450W

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                    @QVENGADOR said in Duda, ¿Aceptar configuraciones de tiendas o hacerse una propia?:

                    i7 4820k

                    Let's see, it's that for as much i7 as you have now, which was certainly great in its day and still gives it a good run for its money today, an i5 from the latest generation (and without fear of being wrong, surely from a couple of generations ago) can perform better.
                    First, because the platform where you mount it already uses DDR4, not to mention the improvements in the chipset compared to your motherboard. We should also not forget the improvements that Intel's architecture has had these years, which in 7 or 8 years are quite a few.
                    Don't forget that since the eighth generation, Intel has been expanding the number of cores and threads in its processors because from yours to the seventh, they were practically the same. So buying an i3 is practically the same as an i7 from the generation before the seventh. And I understand that I'm telling you this quickly and simply, because possibly in some circumstance your i7 is better than a new generation i7, I don't know, but an i5 is quite superior to yours.
                    But if you feel better changing to an i7 because you already come from one, do it. I admit that this has happened to me and “on a whim” I opted for the i7 4790k instead of an i5 4650k coming from an i7 920. But I knew for sure that with the i5 I already had a great improvement ?

                    Saludos!!

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                    • QVENGADORQ Desconectado
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                      Many thanks for the information about the i7 and i5. Manufacturers should have pity on people like me. Who thinks that as the number increases, performance increases. Why do they do it like this, unless you have knowledge, it turns into a mess.

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