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      Reduced..?
      If you saw what I have now in the student apartment… xD
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        @Bm4n:

        Since the prototype of the ultra panoramic Nec was released a year ago, the idea of 3 monitors has been on my mind, even though I still think it's great, I just don't share the opinion that you're going to experience anything new through them. You'll enjoy it as much with a normal one as with a 21:9 and with 3 16:9. Personally, if I won the lottery, I would buy a 21:9 because I think it's ideal, but everyone will have their own tastes.

        To experience a game more, like a simulator, a good chair that transmits the movement of a car game does add something new or better. Whether you put 3 monitors or just a good TV (as many do) won't make much difference, a more panoramic format than that of a cinema is difficult to take advantage of visually.

        And I repeat that I think 3 monitors are great, I've always thought so even though now I have another idea, but I wouldn't sell it as if you're going to experience something else by having it. I also don't sell the idea of controllers like the wiimote or move as such, although I do think they're pretty cool, but I know that with a mouse or a mushroom you enjoy it just as much.

        @Sylver:

        I think more or less like Bm4n, the use of three expensive monitors together is not really a "worldly" experience, so to speak exaggerating the terms, but rather a way to display visual field with independent definition in three sectors, and under my point of view it's not the best, given the need to live with those two black stripes on both sides. Hence, 21:9 monitors have become a much better option when trying to achieve that result without so much inconvenience. Given the option to spend a good amount on three high-quality monitors, I see a better option to invest that money (and a little more) in one of 21:9 since the result will always be better in all senses.
        Of course there will be those who can afford it and those who have no choice but to approach it with 3 monitors of 16:9, but today, life is like this, one thing is optimism or what one would like to have and another is reality or what one can have.

        Saludos! :sisi:

        At no point do I think I'm selling the idea of experiencing something new, what I mean is that the experience is much more immersive with 3 monitors than with one and therefore more fun and that's not just me saying it, it's just like that. Even if it doesn't seem like it to you.

        You may or may not like Surround, that's already subjective for each individual, but the experience is what it is, like 3D, you may or may not like it...

        Moreover, you're criticizing them for being expensive, and you put the NEC CRV43 as an example, a monitor of about $8,000, with a resolution of 2880 x 900p, which doesn't even reach Full HD, and whose aspect ratio, if you allow me the correction, is 32:10, not 21:9. With a dot size of 0.53 I think, which seems more like a crater than a dot size.
        Well, the experience is more fun, the more you see, and in a surround of 7680 x 1440p or 5760 x 1080p you see much more than in 2880 x 900p.

        But what I liked is this: "_Of course there will be those who can afford it and those who have no choice but to approach it with 3 monitors of 16:9, but today, life is like this, one thing is optimism or what one would like to have and another is reality or what one can have.
        _""

        At this point I leave the discussion...

        Un Saludo...

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          What a lovely living room, sir, I've always wanted to get one of those discreet rugs for the floor, they give the room character and make it cozy in winter :ugly:
          The set is nice, the desk is well distributed, the games station with the play 3 and the music system… of course many of us would like to have everything as tidy as this xD

          Best regards

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            @Jotole:

            At no point do I think I am selling the idea of living something new, what I mean is that the experience is much more immersive with 3 monitors than with one and therefore more fun and that's not just me saying it, it's just how it is. Even if it doesn't seem that way to you.

            You may or may not like Surround, that's subjective to each individual, but the experience is what it is, like 3D, you may or may not like it…..

            Moreover, you are criticizing them for being expensive, and you put the NEC CRV43 as an example, a monitor of about $8000, with a resolution of 2880 x 900p, which doesn't even reach Full HD, and whose aspect ratio, if you allow me the correction, is 32:10, not 21:9. With a dot pitch of 0.53 I think, which more than a dot pitch looks like a crater.
            Well, the experience is more fun, the more you see, and in a surround of 7680 x 1440p or 5760 x 1080p you see much more than in 2880 x 900p.

            But what I liked is this: " _Of course there will be those who can afford it and those who have no choice but to approach it with 3 monitors of 16:9, but today, life is like that, one thing is optimism or what one should have and another is reality or what one can have.
            _""

            At this point I leave the discussion….

            Best regards...

            Jotole, I personally have not talked about the NEC, but about monitors with a 21:9 ratio in general, like the LGs, to give an example, which are far from those exorbitant $8000, but not even close…
            It's what you're saying, a fun experience in which you see more than in a normal monitor, but without bars in the middle as in a 3 monitor setup. That for that it's better to have a monitor that gives a resolution of 7680 x 1440p or 5760 x 1080p alone? Sure, the thing is that I'm not aware of any, and if I'm bothered by the bars on the sides then I'll buy a 21:9 or even the NEC that Bm4n proposed (pending to try it and check those drawbacks you attributed to it) and enjoy a greater field of vision and a great experience, with all the resolution values, color, etc, unified.

            Once again it's a matter of taste and possibilities, I'm not saying I wouldn't set up three monitors if they were given to me or if I won the lottery, but if I had the necessary capital I would look for every means to find a monitor large enough to achieve the same effect without having bars in the middle and without having to use three power outlets and image sources.

            Best regards

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              @Jotole:

              At no point do I think I'm selling the idea of living something new, what I mean is that the experience is much more immersive with 3 monitors than with one and therefore more fun and I'm not the only one saying this, it's just like that. Even if it doesn't seem like it to you.

              You may or may not like Surround, that's subjective for each individual, but the experience is what it is, like 3D, you may or may not like it...

              Moreover, you're criticizing them for being expensive, and you put the NEC CRV43 as an example, a monitor of about $8000, with a resolution of 2880 x 900p, which doesn't even reach Full HD, and whose aspect ratio, if you allow me the correction, is 32:10, not 21:9. With a dot pitch of 0.53 I think, which more than a dot pitch looks like a crater.
              Well, the experience is more fun, the more you see, and in a surround of 7680 x 1440p or 5760 x 1080p you see much more than in 2880 x 900p.

              But what I liked is this: " _Of course there will be those who can afford it and those who have no choice but to approach it with 3 monitors of 16:9, but hey, life is like that, one thing is optimism or what one should have and another is reality or what one can have.
              _""

              At this point I leave the discussion...

              Best regards...

              If you're not selling it to us, perfect :ugly:, of course it's more immersive and I don't dislike it. I prefer ultra-wide, for now 21:9 2560 x 1080, in a few years the market will be better prepared.

              What you quote refers to the fact that now you can't have a cinema screen for gaming unless you use a good projector, and setting up 3 monitors has drawbacks (borders, resolution, space, etc.) but it's the closest thing.

              When playing an FPS you have your view fixed on the center 90% of the time, and when aiming you don't turn your head physically but with the mouse, so the sides only give you a blurry image 90% of the time, which does give greater immersion and is great. Is that the whole story???, let's not get too carried away... And I haven't talked at all about the economic aspect, putting up 3 monitors isn't expensive, for €900 you can have IPS monitors and graphics to move it, of all if I were to spend that money I would probably consider a 1080p projector.

              @Sylver:

              The setup is very nice, sir, I've always wanted to get one of those discreet rugs for the floor, they give cachet to the room and make it cozy in winter :ugly:
              The whole set is good, the desk well distributed, the gaming station with the play 3 and the music system… of course many of us would like to have everything as organized as that xD

              Well it's organized from time to time jajaja and the rug needs vacuuming often ¬¬ What I'm very happy about is the table, a cheap IKEA one!

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                We agree on that, the ideal would be a monitor like the NEC we mentioned, but with a minimum resolution of 2560 x 1080 like the one you mentioned, which the LGs have, or the new DELL Panoramas, but I know people who have had that Dell for example and it lasted them hours… I'm used to a 27.

                The image is much more "narrow", in a 21:9 than in a 16:9. And consequently it seems like you're missing a monitor.

                I've played on many monitors from the first 15" CRTs, to 50" TVs, and I still prefer surround, until I try something like the 43" Nec. But at those prices…..........Uf!!

                You've already mentioned the disadvantages of surround, 3 power outlets, 3 connections and graphics to move that. The thing about the edges of the monitors I was reluctant to it at first, but once you try them, when you play, you don't even realize they're there.

                When you play you always look forward, yes, but the side monitors are for peripheral vision. It's like when you're walking, you don't have to turn your head to know what's happening on your sides. With surround it's the same. As long as you put them at a certain degree with respect to the other, if you turn them too much, you lose that view, and totally flat, it doesn't give you as much immersion. I have mine at about 25,30º, and they help a lot in having more field of vision to detect an enemy earlier, see more of the map, etc...

                Anyway, everyone has their preferences...

                Best regards..

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                  Bm4n @Jotole
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                  Of course these 21:9 are like a 27" flattened, perhaps changing from one to another doesn't appeal to you, but to me changing from a 22" in the future does seem interesting especially because it's a resolution that isn't hard to move and it's a good size. Although the NEC's aspect ratio was better, it was like two screens joined which is something you can't do today because you're left with the border in the middle.

                  Now that the games look great...

                  [YOUTUBE-HD]Rf7FcIgkgDY[/YOUTUBE-HD]

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                    @Bm4n:

                    Of course these 21:9 are like a 27" squashed, perhaps changing from one to the other wouldn't bother you, but me, in the future changing from 22" would seem interesting to me, especially because it's a resolution that isn't hard to move and it's a good size. Although the NEC's aspect ratio was better, it was like two screens joined which is something you can't do today because you're left with the border in the middle.

                    Now the games look great…

                    In that video it looks perfect, yes. And I'd venture to say that the ones on top are my old U2312HM.

                    In that case the change to a 29" you would notice it, as long as you're increasing inches the change is more significant.

                    In my case changing that surround of the image for a 29" panoramic, would be losing field of vision…

                    Best regards..

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                          new box,….we don't stop moving things from time to time, although in my case, it's for reasons of space and necessity, change of place of the toy, and the Obsidian 800D was getting too big,..so there has been a change in performance, and quality, obviously, but I don't dislike this new travel companion, for now





                          and first update with soaking

                          we will continue to square the loop, there are some things that I haven't liked as they are left

                          regards

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                            Aesthetically I don't like the hafs, but the assembly and distribution is very cool.

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                              This is how I've been lately. :fuckyea:
                              No more building desserts, that's the idea.

                              My closest upgrade is to add 2 Plextor M5M 128Gb msata for raid 0 and a Crucial M500 of 500GB and replace the Sandisk X100 and the 2.5" hdd.

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                                Taking advantage of the fact that I was changing the front fans, I tried the Smartphone camera in a cheap way with flash :ugly:

                                Update from a few months ago: Silver Arrow.

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                                  My little mini-server, now also HTPC, after moving from VIA C7 to Atom D2550.

                                  Features:

                                  • Asrock AD2550-ITX motherboard with Atom D2500 at 1.8Ghz.
                                  • 1 module 2GB DDR3-1066 So-Dimm Kingston brand. I have a free slot to add another.
                                  • Antec ISK-100 case.
                                  • 2 2.5" hard drives, one 80Gb for the system and programs, and another 250Gb for videos.

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                                  So far, the old thing is not doing badly. Without making any strange configurations, it accelerates and plays HD video hardware in XBMC and its consumption is about 19w at idle and about 21w playing HD.

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                                    I like that antec, which by the way hasn't done anything lately, or I haven't seen anything new, we've only seen the p280.

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                                      In small and budget cases if you have little things, but in higher ranges not much. I loved the Mini P180, it was my platonic love until I got the opportunity of the Silverstone SG05.

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                                        The mini p180 is a case that I have also liked a lot, for a m atx gamer rig it looks great, I have been able to tinker with 2 and they are a delight.

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                                          We updated the GPU [Gigabyte GTX 760 OC], I still have to double the RAM and then start racking up the miles.

                                          Fractal Design Define R4 - 4 x Servo Gentle Typhoon - Be Quiet SilentWings USC 140 - BitFenix Formula Gold 550W - Asus Crosshair VI Hero - AMD Ryzen 5 3600 - Thermalright Macho Rev.B - 2x8GB Crucial Ballistix Sport AT 3200 - MSI GTX 1070 Gaming X - Corsair MP510 480GB - Seagate 7200.14 1TB - Yamaha HS 7 ♫ ASUS Xonar DGX ♫ Beyer Dynamic MMX-300 - LG 23MP57VQ-P - Oculus Rift CV1 - Logitech G27 - Zalem V2

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                                            Joer Obione, the Antec 300 looks tight, huh? It seems like you had to squeeze the 760 in with a shoehorn :ugly:

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