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      HectorRos
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      Good morning!

      Well, first of all, I introduce myself, as I am new to this forum.

      My name is Héctor Ros, I am a student at ASIX and I currently work at a company related to Computer Software.

      A couple of months ago, I ran out of PC, a Core2Quad that I had, I already took it to the office, and this month, I decided to build one again, so I can get the MAXIMUM performance out of it.

      The budget I have is around 1000 - 1100 € maximum for the equipment, (CPU, Motherboard, RAM, Case, Disk, Graphics).

      I wanted to see if you could recommend me to get the most out of the PC,

      The first question is.. AMD or INTEL? I was thinking of an i7 2600K, How does it work?

      Then, RAM, much difference between a 1333 and 2000 for example? Would I gain much performance?

      Motherboard, I have no idea what I could use.

      Cooling, Liquid or air? I was thinking of: Corsair Cooling Hydro Series H80 CWCH80 Liquid Cooling

      Case? a cool one, Large, that is not ugly, but does not cost a fortune? I do not like much the super gaming towers, Fractal Core 3000 FD-CA-CORE-3000-BL Case/Tower This one has a good price and is not bad.

      Graphics Card: I know it is a very important part, what do you think: Sapphire Radeon HD 6950 2GB GDDR5 + Dirt3 11188-05-20G Graphics Card I can not spend on one of 500 €

      Power Supply how much do I need? 700 W? 800 W?

      I would like to be able to overclock the CPU to 4.X Ghz, without it getting too hot.

      Thanks to all in advance!

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      • DefSoulD Desconectado
        DefSoul
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        well, I'm new to the forum too, so I'll give you my humble opinion jaja..
        well, the case is beautiful, I love it, it's serious but at the same time the distribution of the interior is very cool, about the processor, I won't talk to you, since of the i, I only have experience on my laptop, and it's not very reliable when comparing it to a tower..but I'm sure with the i7 that will fly, for the motherboard I would look at an msi or the GIGABYTE GA-Z68X-UD4-B3 SK1155 DDR3 PCX, I dream of that motherboard… with that budget it's difficult for me to give a computer as it's out of my average! ram I would go for corsair and the rest I don't know, about liquid cooling... I also have no experience, I'm behind the heatsink man... although I suppose that in the future I'll switch to it, oh and I edit, my power supply is a 500w and it's more than enough... I suppose that with the 700w one you'll be fine too, it all depends on what the motherboard and the graphics card ask for

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          Tecnho Veteranos HL @DefSoul
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          Let me know what you think of this one at levelpc.es, I think it's well balanced and I prefer a 2500k right now to an amd of the ones out there, the new bulldozers come out at christmas, but with this you'll have a pc for a while, these fractals are coming out pretty decent, they're not seen much here but in Germany they're selling like hotcakes.

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            ferelxyx Veteranos HL @Tecnho
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            Hello and welcome

            well tell me what the team is best for and that way it's easier to help you

            if it's for a little bit of everything and gaming the i5 2500K is your processor
            if it's for editing work and other things the i7 2600K is your micro

            ASRock P67 Extreme4 B3
            2X4Gb of memory at 1600Mhz CL8 or lower, GSKILL/CORSAIR or similar
            a primary solid state drive if you can afford it, if not a WD caviar black 1TB and a 2TB grenn or similar as a secondary
            Thermalright HR-02 Macho or Thermalright Archon
            an AMD 6950/70 2GB

            Cooler Master Dominator CM-690 II Lite or Lian Li LanCool PC-K62
            Corsair TX750 V2 750W

            it's an example of what I would buy

            regards

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              Sylver Veteranos HL @ferelxyx
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              +1 to ferelxyx's build

              I would add a cooler (Scythe Ninja 3 for example)
              and a 2nd hard drive for data and backups

              One thing, don't you think this thread is in the wrong place? Overclock… :nono:

              Regards

              >> i7-2600K Sandy Bridge @4.4GHz || Noctua NH-D14 || ASRock Z77 Extreme4 || 4x8Gb G.Skill Ripjaws X DDR3 1600MHz || XFX RX 5700 XT 8Gb || SSD Samsung 850 PRO 256Gb & 850 EVO 500Gb || WD Caviar Green 1Tb || Barracuda 1Tb || Corsair TX650 V2 || M-Audio Fast Track Pro || KRK RP8 RoKit G3 || BenQ GW2750 27"
              >> Athlon 64 X2 5600+ Brisbane @2.9GHz || Gigabyte GA-M61PME-S2 || 2x2Gb DDR2 Kingston 800MHz || Sapphire Radeon HD 5850 Xtreme 1Gb || Maxtor 320Gb SATA2 || OCZ ModXStream 500W Modular || TEAC PowerMax 120/2 || Acer X243w 24"
              >> Intel Core2Duo E6600 Conroe @2.4GHz || Asus P5N32-SLI SE DELUXE || 2x1Gb DDR2 Kingston 800MHz || Asus nVidia GeForce 9800GT 1Gb GDDR3 || Seagate Barracuda IDE 80Gb 7200RPM || Linkworld LPK12-35 450W

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                Tecnho Veteranos HL @Sylver
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                Yes, but a moderator will pass by soon.

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                • DefSoulD Desconectado
                  DefSoul @ferelxyx
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                  and if you want to overclock it, should you not dissipate more heat than the one in the list? not from yours but from the previous one, joooer I went to reply and they got to me before… I assumed the equipment was for overclocking, and he is asking for the appropriate configuration, that's why he mentioned the maximum performance, right?

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                    Sylver Veteranos HL @DefSoul
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                    @Tecnho:

                    Si, pero ya pasara algun moderador.

                    Esperemos.

                    ! Por cierto, Bm4n ya tiene un par de propuestas para ser moderador, y yo creo que tú también tienes muchas papeletas ?
                    Perdón por el off-topic

                    @DefSoul:

                    y si le quiere hacer oc, otro disipa mas tocho que el de la lista no?, no de la tuya sino de la anterior, joooer he ido a contestar y se me han adelantado… yo di por supuesto que el equipo era para hacerle overclock, y esta pidiendo la configuracion adecuada, por eso ha dicho lo del maximo rendimiento no?

                    Si, por eso dije yo el Scythe Ninja 3 por ejemplo, o el Macho también es bastante bueno.

                    Saludos

                    >> i7-2600K Sandy Bridge @4.4GHz || Noctua NH-D14 || ASRock Z77 Extreme4 || 4x8Gb G.Skill Ripjaws X DDR3 1600MHz || XFX RX 5700 XT 8Gb || SSD Samsung 850 PRO 256Gb & 850 EVO 500Gb || WD Caviar Green 1Tb || Barracuda 1Tb || Corsair TX650 V2 || M-Audio Fast Track Pro || KRK RP8 RoKit G3 || BenQ GW2750 27"
                    >> Athlon 64 X2 5600+ Brisbane @2.9GHz || Gigabyte GA-M61PME-S2 || 2x2Gb DDR2 Kingston 800MHz || Sapphire Radeon HD 5850 Xtreme 1Gb || Maxtor 320Gb SATA2 || OCZ ModXStream 500W Modular || TEAC PowerMax 120/2 || Acer X243w 24"
                    >> Intel Core2Duo E6600 Conroe @2.4GHz || Asus P5N32-SLI SE DELUXE || 2x1Gb DDR2 Kingston 800MHz || Asus nVidia GeForce 9800GT 1Gb GDDR3 || Seagate Barracuda IDE 80Gb 7200RPM || Linkworld LPK12-35 450W

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                      HectorRos @DefSoul
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                      I still make a few settings according to the recommendations.

                      The team is basically for having fun hehe,

                      The processor, I think I have it clear, although it costs me a little more:

                      Intel Core i7 2600K 3.4Ghz Box Socket 1155 BX80623I72600K

                      I think it's a good CPU and from what I'm looking at I could overclock it quite a bit.

                      The card, Sapphire Radeon HD 6950 2GB GDDR5 + Dirt3 11188-05-20G Graphics Card This one has 2 GB GDDR5, isn't it better than a 1 GB one?

                      As for the motherboard, I've been looking at the PRO that they put in the configuration, but I've also looked at:

                      Asus P8P67-M B3 90-MIBDVA-G0EAY0DZ Motherboard

                      It's from the same range, the performance is similar from what I can see, and it's Micro-ATX, so it uses less space. What do you think about that? Is it much less performant?

                      As for cooling, since this is about OverClocking, Corsair Cooling Hydro Series H80 CWCH80 Liquid Cooling Would this liquid cooling be good? It's factory sealed, and whether you like it or not, it gives a little more confidence that a hose or something like that won't mess up.

                      Thanks to everyone for the help, comment on everything, especially about the motherboard.

                      Best regards!

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                        DefSoul @HectorRos
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                        I think it's good for overlock, it has a protection system in case you mess it up... or do they all have that?

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                          ferelxyx Veteranos HL @HectorRos
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                          you can put this

                          i confused myself when putting the graphic, i wanted to put this - Sapphire Radeon HD 6950 2GB GDDR5 + Dirt3 - which is 20 euros more

                          and i would put the ASRock P67 Extreme4 B3 about 40 euros more, and if you can put instead of the WD primary a
                          OCZ Solid 3 SATA 3 2.5" SSD 120GB MAESTRO - which would be 100 euros more

                          regards

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                            HectorRos @ferelxyx
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                            Same, but with a 2GB GDDR5 Raden HD and the cooling, wouldn't liquid be better?

                            I keep arguing with myself about the cooling...

                            Greetings!

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                              Sylver Veteranos HL @HectorRos
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                              @HectorRos:

                              Same thing, but with a 2GB GDDR5 Raden HD and the cooling, wouldn't liquid be better?

                              I keep arguing with myself about the cooling...

                              Best regards!

                              The fact is that it doesn't necessarily have to be liquid, it's not a very hot micro either and air cooling is more than efficient today with a good heatsink like the Archon that ferelxyx proposes to you.

                              Regarding the graphics card, it has a pretty good heatsink and with the ATI driver you can control the fan speed, which normally comes with a default of 20% - 30% (depending on the model) because they don't need more.

                              Best regards

                              >> i7-2600K Sandy Bridge @4.4GHz || Noctua NH-D14 || ASRock Z77 Extreme4 || 4x8Gb G.Skill Ripjaws X DDR3 1600MHz || XFX RX 5700 XT 8Gb || SSD Samsung 850 PRO 256Gb & 850 EVO 500Gb || WD Caviar Green 1Tb || Barracuda 1Tb || Corsair TX650 V2 || M-Audio Fast Track Pro || KRK RP8 RoKit G3 || BenQ GW2750 27"
                              >> Athlon 64 X2 5600+ Brisbane @2.9GHz || Gigabyte GA-M61PME-S2 || 2x2Gb DDR2 Kingston 800MHz || Sapphire Radeon HD 5850 Xtreme 1Gb || Maxtor 320Gb SATA2 || OCZ ModXStream 500W Modular || TEAC PowerMax 120/2 || Acer X243w 24"
                              >> Intel Core2Duo E6600 Conroe @2.4GHz || Asus P5N32-SLI SE DELUXE || 2x1Gb DDR2 Kingston 800MHz || Asus nVidia GeForce 9800GT 1Gb GDDR3 || Seagate Barracuda IDE 80Gb 7200RPM || Linkworld LPK12-35 450W

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                                @Sylver:

                                The fact is that it doesn't necessarily have to be liquid, it's not a very hot micro either and air cooling is more than efficient today with a good heatsink like the Archon that ferelxyx suggests.

                                Regarding the graphics card, it has a pretty good heatsink and with the ATI driver you can control the fan speed, which normally comes with a default speed of 20% - 30% (depending on the model) because it doesn't need more.

                                Regards

                                that's only true if we're short on cash :D:D:D an RL will always perform better than the best air cooler you can afford. No matter how many http://www.tienda-traxtore.com/tienda/index.php?page=pp_producto.php&md=0&ref=VEN679-2 you put in the tower :D:D:D:D

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                                  ferelxyx Veteranos HL @HectorRos
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                                  @HectorRos:

                                  Same thing, but with a 2GB GDDR5 Raden HD and the cooling, wouldn't liquid be better?

                                  I keep arguing with myself about the cooling...

                                  Regards!

                                  yes, it's true I got confused when I put it I wanted to put this - Sapphire Radeon HD 6950 2GB GDDR5 + Dirt3 - which is 20 euros more

                                  already corrected

                                  regards

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                                    HectorRos @CNCBCN
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                                    Perfect, so Discos…

                                    What do you think, to get the most out of that CPU and that Graphics, a OCZ Solid 3 SATA 3 2.5" SSD 120GB MAESTRO SLD3-25SAT3-120G Disco Duro SSD as primary, and for storage a Seagate Barrcuda of 2 TB.

                                    I think with this I'm going to be pretty good, right?

                                    Do you think I can overclock that CPU to 4.5 Ghz, with liquid cooling.

                                    Regards!

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                                      CNCBCN @HectorRos
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                                      ¿for what? ¿4.5? stable, for daily use ? I don't know on a PC for normal use 4.5 is a bit beastly, another thing is that you want to play stress tests to get a high score ?

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                                        HectorRos @ferelxyx
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                                        No, for daily use, it's enough for me to work at 3.8 which is the turbo speed, it serves me, the thing is that I like simulation, like flight simulation for example, and many times it's several hours of intensive use.

                                        Greetings.

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                                          Sylver Veteranos HL @CNCBCN
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                                          @CNCBCN:

                                          that's only true if we're short of cash :D:D:D a RL will always perform better than the best air cooler you can afford. for many http://www.tienda-traxtore.com/tienda/index.php?page=pp_producto.php&md=0&ref=VEN679-2 that you put in the tower :D:D:D:D

                                          Totally agree, that's exactly what I'm saying ?

                                          >> i7-2600K Sandy Bridge @4.4GHz || Noctua NH-D14 || ASRock Z77 Extreme4 || 4x8Gb G.Skill Ripjaws X DDR3 1600MHz || XFX RX 5700 XT 8Gb || SSD Samsung 850 PRO 256Gb & 850 EVO 500Gb || WD Caviar Green 1Tb || Barracuda 1Tb || Corsair TX650 V2 || M-Audio Fast Track Pro || KRK RP8 RoKit G3 || BenQ GW2750 27"
                                          >> Athlon 64 X2 5600+ Brisbane @2.9GHz || Gigabyte GA-M61PME-S2 || 2x2Gb DDR2 Kingston 800MHz || Sapphire Radeon HD 5850 Xtreme 1Gb || Maxtor 320Gb SATA2 || OCZ ModXStream 500W Modular || TEAC PowerMax 120/2 || Acer X243w 24"
                                          >> Intel Core2Duo E6600 Conroe @2.4GHz || Asus P5N32-SLI SE DELUXE || 2x1Gb DDR2 Kingston 800MHz || Asus nVidia GeForce 9800GT 1Gb GDDR3 || Seagate Barracuda IDE 80Gb 7200RPM || Linkworld LPK12-35 450W

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                                            CNCBCN @HectorRos
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                                            @HectorRos:

                                            No, para el uso diario, con que me funcione a 3.8 que es la velocidad de turbo, me serve, el tema es que a mi me gusta la simulación, la de vuelo por ejemplo, y muchas veces son varias horas de uso intensivo.

                                            Saludos.

                                            en ese caso puedes optar por sistemas de aire o por RL ¿ que es mejor? depende de el presupuesto, pero desde mi punto de vista una RL es para darle mucha caña al PC, sino no merece la pena la inversión. pásate por la rama del super pi y compara tu mismo los OC con H2O y los OC con aire el tema de el ruido es tema aparte, pero puedes tener una RL insoportable y una por aire peor ( mas ruidosa )
                                            P.D fríamente para lo que tu quieres el PC yo optaría por aire y la pasta que te ahorras en la RL la metes en componentes ( un RAID 0 con un par de SSD ) un SLI etc….

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