EVGA GTX 570
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Personally I would get an HD5850 to get by, and when you go to change everything you sell it and upgrade the whole PC (save the money from the GTX570, because buying and then selling the 5850 you won't lose much money), since by then they may have released a card that is much superior in terms of quality/price/consumption compared to that possible SLI of GTX570, and certainly compared to a single GTX570
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Well, the truth is that the warranty is not an important factor in that sense as you put it, the advantage it does have is when selling it perhaps in 2 years, saying that it still has 8 years of warranty makes it easier to sell (or so I think hehe)
Warranty details aside, which version would you get? Basic or OC? What I see is that they probably have the same heatsink, right? I'm including a couple of links for informational purposes to facilitate the question I'm asking you:
- GTX 570 Base
- GTX 570 OC Classified
Do you think it's the same heatsink? I'm not sure about that.
If it were the same, what would be the point of buying a version with OC done if it's the same card, the Base version would theoretically reach those same frequencies by doing the OC yourself and saving the €50 difference, right?
That's the doubt that has always been raised for me with the typical OC versions of the same card.
Thanks! Regards!
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if they look the same on the outside, the only thing they tell you changes is that one has OC as standard and the other doesn't, the price and the warranty. in two years for that second-hand graphics card they'll give you half of what it's worth today (at best). about doing your own OC? well, if you know how to do it you can. the million-dollar question is whether the base version isn't capped. let me explain: I sell graphics card A with OC for 350 and graphics card B without OC for 300, if you can OC graphics card B and make it perform the same as version A, who will buy version A?
what I'm saying is a personal opinion and I could be wrong.
P.D. regarding the heatsink, you can only see the casing and you might have different things inside
edit: and the outputs :D:D
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Personally, I would get an HD5850 to get by, and when you go to change everything, you sell it and upgrade the whole PC (save the money from the GTX570, because buying and then selling the 5850 you won't lose much money), since by then they may have released a card that is much superior in terms of quality/price/consumption compared to that possible GTX570 SLI, and certainly compared to a single GTX570
Interesting what you say, for about 100€ I have a 5850 that with the E8400 I can play for a few months better than with my current setup.
How well do they sell second-hand? Can I get about 80€ in a couple of months or three?
Thanks! Regards!
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Interesting what you're saying, for about 100€ I have an 5850 that with the E8400 I can play for a few months better than with my current setup.
How well do they sell second hand? Can I get about 80€ out of it in a couple of months or three?
Thanks! Regards!
That's what I would do... if there aren't too many new releases those 80€ you'll get them for sure, and if not at least 70€ which is quite a lot (I would see those 20/30€ as an investment to play properly for several months).
And then for sure you can get something better and for less
Regards
P.D.: Also you always have the option that at the time of buying a pc there isn't a graphics card that you particularly like, you see the graphics power of the 5850 as sufficient and decide to invest more in the rest of the pc, since the 5850 is also no joke and could last you longer until you save a bit for when something comes out that convinces you ;D
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That's what I would do... if there aren't too many new releases, you can definitely get those 80€ out of it, and if not, at least 70€, which is already quite a lot (I would see those 20/30€ as an investment to play properly for several months).
And then for sure you can get something better and for less money
Best regards
P.D.: Also, you always have the option that at the time of buying a PC, there isn't any graphics card that you particularly like, you find the graphics power of the 5850 sufficient and decide to invest more in the rest of the PC, since the 5850 is also no joke and could last you longer until you save a bit for when something that convinces you comes out ;D
To be honest, I hadn't stopped to think about it like that, now that I see it, the 350€ for the GTX 570 seems crazy to me xD it's quite a lot of money.
I'll think about it, but it's quite likely that I'll add that 5850 to the E8400 that I'll be left with, given the situation, I think it's a bad time to renew the PC, since new processors are coming out now and AMD graphics are also coming out at Christmas (the 7000 series), with that 5850 I'll be able to play current games and hold out for a few months to see what the new CPUs and graphics bring
Thanks! Regards!
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Finally I ordered a 5850 for 105€, it's Friday so I imagine it will arrive by Monday or Tuesday, so I'll tell you what they bring me, because I read that you can get a V1, V2 or even a Vapor-X, so let's see if there's any luck jeje
Thanks for the help to everyone!
Regards!EDITO: With my source, a Seasonic S12 550w will be good for the E8400 and the HD 5850??
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Finally I have ordered a 5850 for 105€, it's Friday so I guess it will arrive by Monday or Tuesday, so I'll let you know what they bring me, because I've read that you can get a V1, V2 or even a Vapor-X, so let's see if there's any luck jeje
Thanks for the help everyone!
Regards!EDITO: With my power supply, a Seasonic S12 550w will be good for the E8400 and the HD 5850??
There are people with that power supply and a 5850 CF
You've got yourself a good deal, you'll see the differenceSalu2
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the maximum consumption is 151W so I don't think you will have any problems
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Thanks!
I'll tell you my impressions when I get there jeje
Goodbye!
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Thanks!
I'll tell you my impressions when I get there jeje
Best regards!
We're waiting for your impressions when you get the graphics
Who knows, maybe in the future you can consider doing a CF because it's very fashionable lately with this graphics and the HD5870, haha.Regards!!
Edit:
Look at a picture of your card with a CF :risitas:
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creo que mola mas el sistema de refrigeración que en CF :D:D
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Hola de nuevo! Este medio día me ha llegado la gráfica, y he de decir que he tenido suerte, por que la gráfica parece estar en perfectas condiciones e incluso diría que es nueva.
Pero ahí no acaba la cosa, me ha tocado una TOXIC, viene de seria 765 mhz y 4500 mhz, aquí el link:
http://www.sapphiretech.com/presentation/product/?cid=1&gid=3&sgid=591&pid=321&psn=&lid=6&leg=0
Que más se puede pedir por 100€? Espero que me dure mucho! Ya os contaré que tal va en juegos
Un saludo!
EDITO: Acabo de poner el Crysis Warhead en calidad Fanático, todo a tope, sin AA, y es una maravilla
todo perfecto fluido, ni un solo tirón cuando vuelva de clase (que me tengo que ir ya jeje) la probaré en otros juegos y también con filtros a ver que tal va. -
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A ver que sea refurbished no quiere decir que te venga la caja abierta como quien dice, son gráficas reparadas con embalaje nuevo, pero por ley no pueden venderlas "nuevas"
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Hola de nuevo! Este medio día me ha llegado la gráfica, y he de decir que he tenido suerte, por que la gráfica parece estar en perfectas condiciones e incluso diría que es nueva.
Pero ahí no acaba la cosa, me ha tocado una TOXIC, viene de seria 765 mhz y 4500 mhz, aquí el link:
http://www.sapphiretech.com/presentation/product/?cid=1&gid=3&sgid=591&pid=321&psn=&lid=6&leg=0
Que más se puede pedir por 100€? Espero que me dure mucho! Ya os contaré que tal va en juegos
Un saludo!
EDITO: Acabo de poner el Crysis Warhead en calidad Fanático, todo a tope, sin AA, y es una maravilla
todo perfecto fluido, ni un solo tirón cuando vuelva de clase (que me tengo que ir ya jeje) la probaré en otros juegos y también con filtros a ver que tal va.Me alegro que te haya dado tan buen resultado, enhorabuena ;D
A ver que sea refurbished no quiere decir que te venga la caja abierta como quien dice, son gráficas reparadas con embalaje nuevo, pero por ley no pueden venderlas "nuevas"
Hombre alomejor meten algo de sobrante de stock por ahí… sino puede ser que haya tenido el fallito del ruido del disipador y se lo hayan cambiado y por eso parece nueva
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una refurbished no es siempre lo que la gente piensa. una grafica puede salir a la venta con el ventilador estropeado y que haga ruido o algo asi, que se lo cambien por otro nuevo y la vendan como refurbished.
en graficas de ese precio, si alguna tuviera por poner un ejemplo la gpu mal, sale mas rentable tirarla a la basura que arreglarla para volver a venderla. en general las refurbished suelen ser graficas a las que le han arreglado pequeños fallos.
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toda la razón . yo no me imagino al pobre chino de rigor des soldando la GPU para meterle otra , para mi que si esta soldado como mucho te cambian el conector de alimentación
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Ya he vuelto de clase, ahora cuando cene algo (que vengo con hambre jeje) la probaré mas a fondo, comentar que la resolución en el Crysis Warhead es a 1680x1050, no se si irá igual de bien a 1920x1080, de momento mi monitor no da mas de 1680x1050, así que hasta que lo renueve este mes jugaré a esa resolución (que tampoco es mala jeje).
Tengo un problema con los drivers de AMD, más que con los drivers (la gráfica funciona bien y en juegos también) es con el Control Catalyst que no abre, le das al icono del programa, hace como que carga pero no hace nada, ni mensaje de error ni nada, simplemente no hace nada y no abre, la versión es la 11.10 bajada de AMD.
Me gustaría poder abrirlo para configurar mas detalles de la gráfica, pero no hay manera, alguna solución? De momento voy a probar a desinstalarlo y limpiar registro, volver a instalar y a ver que pasa.
Un saludo!
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Bueno el CCC sigue sin abrir, pero visto que los drivers sin funcionan bien (estado 1 hora jugando) y que ya se comenta que la versión 11.10 no sirve para nada jeje pues no me preocupa la verdad, el día que necesite hacer OC usaré el MSI Afterburner, aun que de momento no tocaré el OC, la gráfica va muy bien.
He probado el Fable III con el nivel de detalle al máximo a 1680x1050, fluido, sin tirones y una calidad que no veía antes con mi anterior gráfica jeje, eso sí, he tenido que activar el Vsync por que las rayas en mitad de la pantalla eran muy molestas, pero bueno tampoco veo el problema de jugar a 60 fps.
Una duda, se perderá mucho rendimiento al pasar a 1920x1080? Podré seguir jugando con el nivel de detalle al máximo?
Gracias! Un saludo!
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