MTB Bicycle - Budget 500-600
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Buenos dias, como se que por aqui hay varios que practicais este deporte, me gustaria que me recomebdarais una MTB para iniciarme en este deporte.
De las que he visto por ahora, la CANYON YELLOWSTONE 4.0 es la que me ha parecido mas completa en cuanto a componentes y estetica. Segun dicen, las 2012 bajan de precio por estas fechas por la salida de las 2013, pero de las que he visto por internet, ninguna tenia los componenetes de la canyon y el precio era parecido.
La canyon sale por 569 + envio(40e creo) aunque hace 2 dias estaba a 529.
En segunda mano no he encontrado nada interesante, almenos de lo que yo he visto. Mi talla es una M creo, aunque tengo que medirme para ver exactamente que talla tengo.
¿Que os parece la canyon?¿Alguna alternativa a esta?Cualquier consejo o ayuda se agradece.
Saludos
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Yo, como siempre, recomiendo visitar una tienda-taller, de las que puedes encontrar fácilmente recomendadas en los foros especializados. Si es posible, acompañado de algún amigo que sepa de componentes, para negociar mejor y de forma más rápida.
En estos establecimientos, además de recibir las mejores recomendaciones, con vistas a convertirse en tu lugar de reparaciones habitual, suelen disponer de bicicletas más antiguas, pero en buen estado, que entregan otros clientes, como parte del pago de una nueva.
Salu2!
PD: Veo las Canyon, pasaditas de precio <:(
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Pues tendre que empezar a ver en tiendas, porque en los foros recomiendan la Canyon Yellowstone 4.0 - 569 euros, o una Sherpa 2012 - 510 euros , o una Radon ZR Team 6.0 - 609 euros.
Yo es que la CANYON la veo bien de componentes, aunque no entiendo mucho, pero el cambio DEORE XT son buenos, ¿no? Y los frenos que tampoco creo que son malos. Por lo demas no se decir si lo son o no.
Cuadro: Canyon New F6 Technology
Horquilla: RockShox XC 30 TK LockOut
Dirección: FSA Headset
Cambio trasero: Shimano Deore XT
Desviador: Shimano Alivio
Mandos cambio: Shimano Alivio
Manetas freno: Avid Elixir 1
Frenos: Avid Elixir 1
Bujes: Shimano Alivio
Casete: Shimano Alivio 11-34
Llantas: Alex DP 20
Neumáticos: Schwalbe Nobby Nic 2.25“, Racing Ralph 2.25“
Bielas: Shimano Alivio
Platos: 44/32/22
Pedalier: Shimano BB-ES 25
Potencia: Ritchey (31,8)
Manillar: Ritchey Comp Riser 670/20 mm
Puños: Canyon Bracelets
Sillín: Selle Italia Q-Bik
Tija de sillín: Iridium SL
Pedales: Wellgo Bärentatzen
Tallas de cuadro: XS, S, M, L, XL
Color: pearl black - blue
Peso: 12,90Cuando vaya a preguntar a una tienda, ¿En que me tengo que fijar de cada bici, que es lo importante?
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Con esto de la crisis o por maximizar beneficios, o la excusa que te quieran dar, lo cierto es que de un año para otro, los componentes van bajando de gama, y los precios no sólo no bajan, sinó que repuntan <:(
Las tres bicis que pones son muy similares, y lo que uno baja en un componente, lo lleva mejor en otro.
Personalmente pondría el listón en al menos ~700€, donde tienes las Yellowstone 5.0 , Rockrider 8.1, Orbea Satellite … y el tema de financiación para endulzar el trago, o buscaría en tiendas-taller recomendadas algo de gama media-alta de 2008-2009 por 400-550€
Salu2!
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Me pasare por tienda, porque seguro que alli aclare bastantes mas dudas que viendo modelos por la red.
Gracias de todos modos
Si encontrais algo interesante o alguien vende la suya a buen precio que avise xDSaludos
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Hola a todos.
victorpexacos, yo tengo una Merida Matts Miami de 2006 versión con frenos de disco que ando pensando en vender aunque no es seguro al 100%. Si te puede interesar coméntamelo y le doy vidilla a la decisión ;).
No es una maravilla (lo mejor el casette de 9, los cambios Deore XT y los discos) pero para iniciarse es buena opción. El trato que yo le he dado ha sido exclusivamente ciudad.
Un saludo.
p.s. Perdona que no ponga enlaces pero ahora mismo no encuentro nada de información sobre el modelo exacto :facepalm:.
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Aprovecho la rama que habeis abierto…
Yo ando buscando tambien un reemplazo a mi Rockrider del Decathlon. Y me ha gustado bastante la CUBE LTD 2012. No se si alguno teneis referencias sobre ella.
Saludos!
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Las Cube suelen tener precios ajustados, y esa LTD viene equipada como las de ~700€ que comento arriba, quizá un poco mejor y algo más de peso, pero al final el precio es lo más importante ¿verdad?.
Salu2!
PD: Puedes crear un hilo propio, si tienes claro el uso que le darás y presupuesto.
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Buenoa dias!!
Puee vereis, aun sigo buscando mtb, y un amigo me ha ofrecido una rockrider 9.2 del 2009. La bici tiene bastante uso, pero funcionar funciona bien.
La tengo en mi casa, por lo que puedo probarla el tiempo que necesite. Hoy voy a llevarsela para que la ajuste, ya que llevaba un tiempo parada y los cambios no cambian bien, etc.
Una vez la tenga ajustada, en que creeis que debo fijarme?como comprobar que la bici esta en un estado decente?
La bici es de doble suspension, horquilla rockshox revelation, la suspension trasera Ario 2.1; cambio trasero xt, pulsadores deore lx, desviador lx y poco mas.
La bicicleta es de mi talla y por eso me interesa realmente si la bici esta bien o no, pero nose como comprobar suspensiones y demas conponentes. De todas formas el sabado la llevare a una tienda a que la revisen y me digan que es lo que tiene mas desgaste, para poder regatear el precio.
Sin regatear, me la vende por 450, pero espero poder bajar algo mas, por si se nececita hacer algun cambio de componente.
Pues eso, espero que contesteis, que siempre son de gran ayuda vuestas opiniones

Luego cuelgo un par de fotos hechas por mi.
Saludos y buenos dias.
FOTOS:



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Editado con fotos!!
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Mira bien el cuadro, especialmente las zonas de soldadura, por si aprecias grietas o repintados que las tapen. Comprueba el funcionamiento de la horquilla delantera en parado, y luego la bloqueas y andas un poco en plan BMX, para oir lo que cruje. Comprueba después las posiciones de la horquilla trasera.
Las malas lenguas, comentan, que en ese modelo la horquilla delantera te podría dar algún disgusto, y que los cambios se descorrigen con facilidad por la amplitud del giro en los mandos :mudo:
De todas formas, salvo que veas algo en el cuadro o que la horquilla ya ande tocada, no es mal precio, aunque si la sacas por 400€, mejor

Salu2!
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Y si se la saco por 350 :ugly:? ;D
Pues el viernes la vuelvo a tener, y se supone que ajustada, excepto las suspensioned. Por lo que si no hace mal tiempo, probare lo que me dices e ire a que me revisen horquilla y suspension.
Gracias fassou, ya os contare como acaba el business.
Salu2!!
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Good morning!
In the end I kept the bike. I've been out 4 times and the bike behaves well, it hasn't given me any problems. But now I have muuuch questions ;D:
I leave you the last one:
FIRST: Maintenance.
- Cleaning and lubrication of the transmission. How should I clean the transmission?
According to what I've read, to not harm the components, it's best to wash them with hot water and soap and brush the chain, derailleur and cassette; rinse, dry and degrease and lubricate. But… What product do I degrease with? What oil should I use?
SECOND: Equipment.
- Helmet. I give priority to this, as it is indispensable. What do you recommend?
For now, I'll continue with manual pedals, as in some difficult areas I need to have my feet free, because I still don't control it well enough.
I will buy a backpack with water tank and a culotte and I think that for now it's already good. Maybe gloves too. But little by little, there are too many things xD.
Well, those are my doubts. Apart from that, I would like you to recommend me an online store where to buy things like: OIL - DEGREASER - CAMERAS and things like that.
I will look for the helmet first in a physical store, to see sizes and other things.
From Decathlon I've seen these two:


That's it, I hope you elaborate on your answers, opinions and advice that will surely be very helpful for me.
Greetings and enjoy the MTB xD.
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Congratulations on the mule, and on the operation :fuckyea:
While the MTB experts decide to go through the post, I take the opportunity to share my opinion with you.
As for cleaning, except for rides where you get muddy up to your ears, you only need to clean the bike a little with water, and avoid leaving the areas that require lubrication too dry, or getting grease on the brake discs.
Once the bike is dry, a few drops of grease on the cassette and chain, and ready to store (I use the Finish Line )
The squeaking when you brake with wet pads is completely normal :sisi:
The helmet, just make sure it's not too "low cost", and that you feel comfortable with it, or you'll end up throwing it in a ditch ;D
What you say about the flat tire, is because you probably have a slow puncture, so either you take off the wheel to change the inner tube and take the opportunity to check that the tire doesn't have a "prize" in the form of a thorn, or you wait to puncture more and remember to put air in, before each ride.
The Decathlon inner tubes are perfectly valid, although they used to be cheaper :ffu:, but you can put an inner tube with anti-puncture liquid, or save up to switch to tubeless, as the Pros will recommend :troll:
See you later!
PD: What a long one I've written :facepalm:
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Thanks for replying Fassou ;D
As for the oil, I've seen that there are many from finish line. I live in Alicante, so I think I'll get the SECO one, since I usually don't go out when there's mud or rain, and it also says it picks up less dust.
I found it at Mammoth for 6.60e for the 120ml:

And as for the helmet, I don't know what to do, whether to get one from Decathlon, or go to a store to see what they have there. I don't know what the Decathlon ones are like; and not much else.
Thanks for the help and if you find something interesting, post it :osvaisacagar:
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The helmets from Decathlon don't look bad, but as Fassou says, good and comfortable, if you don't you'll stick it anywhere. And always, always with the helmet. When you're not used to it it's annoying, but it can save your life.
Get yourself a pair of long gloves, not those with fingers in the air. Yes, they get hot, but with a double you'll go down harder and if you fall with your fingers in the air you'll see what a laugh, or if you go with a branch or similar on your fingers (experience).
I also recommend that if you want the suspensions to go softer, don't go directly to the pivot points of the rear end like a beast, but just enough to take the beast out and then "softlyyyy" and put 2 drops of oil on it, just like on the shock absorber and fork seal. What's left over you remove with a cloth. Same with all the moving parts of the bike: gear shifters, gears, make sure it has grease on the seat post so that water doesn't get in there, and never let a drop of oil fall on the discs-pads. If not, in the trash.
The normal squealing of the pads
And about oils, in summer use the dry one, but if it rains use the other more liquid, which penetrates more and gets the water out. And although it catches less dust, if you go out with dust you have to put it on more often. It disappears. Same with water.Enjoy it.
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+1 to what Garfield says, and add a pair of glasses to the list :sisi:
Salu2!
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Well, I think I have everything clearer now...
Basic equipment:
- A good and comfortable helmet. I'll try a few.
- Long gloves, I suppose with protections.
- Some glasses, although you could recommend some to me ;D
- And as for the oil, I'll buy one that's dry and if I can, another one that's wet.
What I don't understand well is this:
I also recommend that if you want the suspensions to be softer, don't go directly to the pivot points of the rear end like crazy, but just enough to take the crazy out and then "softlyyyy" and put 2 drops of oil on it, as well as on the shock seal and the fork. Remove the excess with a cloth. Do the same with all the moving parts of the bike: gear hangers, gears, make sure it has grease on the seat post so that no water gets in there, and never let a single drop of oil fall on the discs-pads. If not, in the trash.
I don't understand that part, and as for the oil used, which one should we use for the fork, seat post, shock, etc...?
Best regards and thank you very much. Everything is very clear and very helpful ;D. You deserve a couple of
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For the topic of greases and oils, I give you the link to a post from a specialized forum.
Regarding the glasses, for the first ones I recommend that you try the normal ones with interchangeable lenses, that you find them comfortable, and then later, when you get tired of them or break them ;D, you buy something of higher quality, with the shape and colors that you like. In my case, I like the yellow lenses

Salu2!
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Well guys, on Friday I went to Decathlon and got some equipment that I really needed:D:
- Sport 7 BTWIN helmet, comfortable, light, cheap and it matches the donkey xD.

- Black DECATHLON 3 culotte:

- Kalenji backpack:

- A couple of cameras, an inflator and degreaser.
I think I didn't forget anything, I spent 97 euros in total and I'm really happy with the purchase, everything is comfortable and light and it fits me like a glove

By the way, what pressure should the wheels have? The guy who sold it to me said around 2-2.5 in the front and 2.5-3 in the back.
Goodbye and good night.
