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      Mayor,

      A SATA3 SSD will work perfectly in a SATA2 port. Although the performance is not optimal, I don't think it will be noticeable in real use.

      Personally, I have 3 Crucial M4 and an OCZ Agility. The Crucial ones have better press on durability and performance. In tests, I get better results with the Crucial 120Gb than the OCZ 120Gb.

      In the synchronous, the controller transfers data in the rising and falling cycle of the clock, which theoretically doubles the amount of bytes transmitted (like DDR memory in its time), although the reality is that the difference is not double because the bottleneck is in disk access.

      In SSDs, there are data degradation problems related to the number of times a cell can change its value. There is talk of 10,000 changes per cell (an estimate, of course, because it could last much longer). But with the trim functions and others, I think this is not representative (although I will tell you if I regret this statement in a couple of years). That's why it is recommended not to defragment the disk to avoid unnecessary data movements.

      There is a program (SSDlife) that estimates the duration of the disk based on this degradation.

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        In summary, take the M4, make a System image, change the registry to AHCI if you were running with IDE and dump the image to the SSD ?

        If you have problems you already know where to comment it :ugly: > Clone HDD to SSD - HardLimit

        If you don't have Windows 7, install 7 or 8 from scratch.

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          Well, I'll stick with my outdated XP SP3, which works great for me. I have a patch to make XP work in AHCI mode without reinstalling the OS. I'll make an image with Acronis, which has always worked well for me.

          By the way, I forgot to ask you about the controllers, MARVELL or SANDFORCE..?

          Thanks a lot.. ?

          P.D. I think I'm going to opt for one of these:

          SANDISK ULTRA 240 GB (MLC)
          SanDisk Extreme 240GB SATA 3 SSD Review - Equal 4k Read/Write IOPS Performance Observed - The SSD Review

          MUSHKIN CHRONOS DELUXE 240 GB (MLC)
          Mushkin Chronos Deluxe 240GB SATA 3 SSD Review - ATTO, Crystal DiskMark and Anvil Storage Utilities - The SSD Review

          SAMSUNG 840 240 GB (TLC)
          http://thessdreview.com/our-reviews/samsung-840-series-240gb-ssd-review-the-worlds-first-tlc-ssd-takes-the-stage/5/

          The comparisons put them in a good light.. But in the ones I've read about the SANDISK, the results are always the same for both writing and reading, so I'm sure I'll get the SANDISK.
          You can look up any kind of info in their database:

          The SSD Database - The SSD Review The SSD Review

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            As there can be a €100 difference in price for the same SSD hard drive, it is clear that you have to look carefully to avoid overpaying: :wall:

            Pixmaladrones: €260.15

            Alternancia: €162.90 + €8.99 Shipping costs: €171.98

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                It is something usual…
                Did you look on Amazon? I have almost always found everything there cheaper than anywhere else, except for a couple of exceptions.
                Best regards

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                  On Amazon it's also more expensive...

                  By the way, you can no longer pick up in store at Alternancia, they only send it and the normal shipping costs €8.99, I'm from Madrid and even though the store wasn't convenient for me, it saved me those 9€, for a couple of ???

                  I'm thinking about getting the Mushkin Chronos 180 Gb, for €137, not a bad price, right?

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                    @winters:

                    By the way, you can no longer pick up in store at Alternancia, they only ship and the normal shipping costs €8.99, I'm from Madrid and even though the store wasn't convenient for me, it saved me those 9€, to have a few ???

                    It is really annoying, I work in that area of Madrid and at lunchtime I had time to stop by and pick up whatever I needed, and now… I might as well order it there, as from PCComponentes or whoever.

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                      On Amazon, you have the Crucial CT256M4SSD2, for 165 €, I think it's a very good price..??

                      P.D. In general, I think that in all stores the M4 has gone down, if not, look at Alternancia, PCCompon…

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                        It's very good. Just now I saw it at 180 and I would have considered going for the 840 Pro for 20 euros more, although personally I would have picked M4 128GB but, at that price the M4 256 is quite tempting :sisi:

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                          @Obione:

                          It's very good. I saw it at 180 and I would have considered going for the 840 Pro for 20 euros more, although personally I would have picked M4 128GB but, at that price the M4 256 is quite tempting :sisi:

                          If I'm tempted this weekend to order it from Amazon, I've already bought and they are quite serious about these things... besides, the shipping costs are cheap: 2,99 € (shipping 3-5 days).

                          PD. It seems that it has compatibility problems with new boards with BIOS UEFI, in this case it's not my problem since I'm still using my C2D E8400..

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                            I think you are referring to the issue with the previous firm, as far as I know there is no problem with either 000F or the latest one.

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                              @Obione:

                              I think you are referring to the theme of the lapsus with the previous firm, as far as I know there is no problem with either 000F or the latest.

                              I don't know if they have solved the problem with a firm.?? I suppose that if Crucial has excellent technical support, especially in memories…

                              I am now using a Velociraptor of 150 gb, with Sata 2, will I notice the difference with an SSD even if it is to SATA 2 compared to the Raptor..??

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                                Yes, I do.

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                                  @Obione:

                                  Ya lo creo.

                                  +1
                                  Sin lugar a dudas que notaras diferencias ?

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                                    +2 here, to finish convincing you :sisi:

                                    Greetings

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                                      @winters:

                                      I don't know if they have solved the problem with a firm.?? I suppose that if Crucial has excellent technical support, especially for memory…

                                      I am now using a 150 gb Velociraptor, with Sata 2, will I notice the difference with an SSD even if it's SATA 2 compared to the Raptor..??

                                      I am with a 2 TB Black Caviar that performs similar to your Raptor and I tried a laptop with SSD at a friend's house and I was left with this face :ugly: so yes it is worth it even if it only performs as SATA 2. They sell PCI Express cards so you can use it as SATA 3, but they are around or exceed 30 € and it's an extra expense…

                                      The truth is that I think it is worth it, and today I think it is the component that I would install first of all in computers that are a few years old like yours or mine.

                                      No matter how powerful a current computer is, the installation of an SSD is the one that definitely marks a big leap in quality. And this is noticeable a lot on a desktop, but on a laptop it is even more worth it.

                                      I will hold on with my conventional disks probably all of 2013 because the truth is, for the use I give to the computer an SSD would be more of a whim than a necessity, so for now I save that.

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                                        @amd125:

                                        I'm using a 2 TB Black Caviar that performs similar to your Raptor and I tried a laptop with an SSD at a friend's house and I was left with this face :ugly: so yes, it's worth it even if it only performs as SATA 2. They sell PCI Express cards so you can use it as Sata 3, but they are around or exceed 30 € and it's an extra expense...

                                        Honestly, I think it's worth it, and today I think it's the component I would install first, especially in computers that are a few years old like yours or mine.

                                        No matter how powerful a current computer is, installing an SSD is what definitely marks a big leap in quality. And this is noticeable in a desktop, but in a laptop it's even more worth it.

                                        Anyway, I'll probably stick with my conventional drives throughout 2013 because, honestly, for the use I give to the computer, an SSD would be more of a luxury than a necessity, so I'll save that for now.

                                        Honestly, I don't need it, so maybe I'll wait a little longer, especially knowing that they're getting cheaper every day, in a few months the price will be noticeable..

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