MSI Big Bang-XPower II X79
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Praimus I see it as an advancement if Haswell-E is really compatible with X79, if in the end it only works with X99 I will think it's a joke on Intel's part for people who have X79, it will show me that the socket 2011 was released too green.
If it really happens and it is compatible with x79 it will be better for users because they will be able to upgrade a CPU and have a similar or better performance to Haswell from the socket 1150, it should be compatible if or if.
I also see it as absurd to release Haswell in the 1150 and release Ivy-E in 2011 because it won't be left as the high-end platform, although these are rumors that there is nothing certain yet.
regards
To me it doesn't matter at all not being able to plug a haswell-e into my old x79 if with it I gain performance or other improvements, wanting to reuse hardware in many cases makes us drag problems.
I say, if we win, to stay the same I'll stay as I am and I understand what you mean fjavi.
On the joke I agree with you fjavi, but that's something that Intel has been doing for several generations, the Intel platform that left me with the best taste is the 1366 both with the Nehalem and the Gulftown (the best processors that Intel has released in its history, cool, fast and stable as a rock that performs and rivals with all an SB-E), this X79 platform seems to have come out not in beta state, but directly in alpha, due to the large number of problems and failures that are being seen, but if with the supposed reversal of X99 we return to the stability and finesse of the 1366 era for me it will be very welcome and I will switch to it quickly since SB-E didn't leave me a good taste in my mouth and gave me many problems, especially with Asus and its crazy ideas in the bios, that although it may seem unbelievable and after a few years they continue to do the same stupidity of losing values and setting by default habitually, so I am one of those who expect that supposed reversal like water in May.:wall:
Regarding the MSI (that I have deviated a bit ;D), it is a great motherboard and from the first day it caught my attention a lot, I was lucky to test its counterpart in X58 and it was stable as a rock but with the usual MSI failure, until almost a year passes they don't find stability, that is, once they have it they have nothing to envy to the most advanced and exclusive boards on the market for less price, excellent review Jotole and as always chapeau.
A greeting and a pleasure to debate with you.
Exactly, this is what I refer to Alcor, if with the change of chipset, socket or whatever we leave behind failures or gain improvements ¿why not?
By the way, what an offtopic we are putting to Jotole.
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I agree with you fjavi about the joke, but that's something Intel has been doing for several generations. The Intel platform that left me with the best taste in my mouth is the 1366, both with the Nehalem and Gulftown (the best processors Intel has ever released in its history, fresh, fast and stable as a rock that performs and rivals any SB-E). This X79 platform seems to have come out not in beta, but directly in alpha, due to the large number of problems and failures that are being seen. However, if the supposed reversion to X99 returns to the stability and finesse of the 1366 era, I will welcome it very much and I will switch to it quickly since the SB-E didn't leave me with a good taste in my mouth and gave me many problems, especially with Asus and its antics in the bios, which, believe it or not, after a few years they continue to do the same silly thing of losing values and defaulting habitually, so I am one of those who expect that supposed reversion like water in May.:wall:
Regarding the MSI (which I have strayed from a bit ;D), it is a great motherboard and from the first day it caught my attention a lot. I was lucky enough to test its counterpart on X58 and it was as stable as a rock but with MSI's usual problem, until almost a year passes they don't find stability, that is, once they have it, they have nothing to envy to the most advanced and exclusive motherboards on the market for less price, excellent review Jotole and as always chapeau.
Regards and a pleasure to debate with you.
You are right but I think it's not just Asus, Gigabyte is the same, they are the most important manufacturers, in fact, not many X79 have been released. To be honest, the R3E works like a charm for me, of course it's x58, but I have the same OC configuration for years, sometimes I lower the latency to the memory but not a single failure, that's why I blame more the x79 itself than the motherboards although some give fewer problems.
Perhaps many problems are also in the CPUs that have disabled parts, that socket is very large with quite a TDP and it may have happened to it like the Q6600 b3 or the 920 C1, which were not as good as the next revision.
But perhaps a Haswell of those will be much better and more stable, even on an X79 if they are really compatible.
@Praimus:I don't care at all about not being able to pin a haswell-e on my old x79 if it means gaining performance or other improvements. Trying to reuse hardware in many cases makes us drag problems.
I mean, if we gain, to stay the same I'll stay as I am and I understand what you mean fjavi.
I agree, but if you gain PCIe 3.0, 8 real cores, not two disabled, better TDP, better OC and stability and you only change a CPU, it's welcome.
But I suppose the x99 will have more advantages, but it will be more expensive to change, for example Jotole would benefit from just changing a CPU, although in the end if he likes an x99 he will also change the motherboard, if there are advantages to change.Apologies to Jotole, although in reality we are talking about X79, it would be interesting to know if they will be compatible for those who already have X79.
regards
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That motherboard and that XSPC block sound familiar to me... ;D
Wow, that MSI looks great, it's a beauty, thanks for this review.
If instead of releasing Ivy-E they release Haswell-E directly, I see it as a step forward for users, right? We skip a generation and get a better one, that's the idea, hehe
I'm totally against backward compatibility and I think it's right that the socket changes, as a general rule, new chipsets bring new things.
I honestly don't care about not being able to put a Haswell-E in my X79 rig if it means gaining performance or other improvements, wanting to reuse hardware often drags problems with it.
I mean, if we're gaining something, to stay the same I'll stick with what I have and I understand what you're saying fjavi.
Exactly, that's what I'm referring to Alcor, if by changing the chipset, socket or whatever we leave behind bugs or gain improvements, why not?
By the way, what an off-topic we're getting into with Jotole.
Thank you very much. ;), and don't worry about the off-topic, it's absolutely fine.
Who knows, maybe we'll see an MSI Xpower III X99, in this very thread ;).
Best regards..
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A placon… nothing to argue about except the heat sink from SB... some people will like it... but I think we are in the majority who don't like those bullet or bullet casing designs... XD
Luckily they will change it for dragons... jajaja
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Un placon… nada que discutir excepto el disipador de SB... habra gente que le guste... pero creo que somos mayoria los que no gustan de esos diseños de balas o cartuchos de balas... XD
Por suerte lo cambiaran por dragones... jajaja
Ya ves, garruladas Gigabyte/MSI para los shooteros xD
Aquí por suerte se ha pasado por agua ;D
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Un placon… nada que discutir excepto el disipador de SB... habra gente que le guste... pero creo que somos mayoria los que no gustan de esos diseños de balas o cartuchos de balas... XD
Por suerte lo cambiaran por dragones... jajaja
Ya ves, garruladas Gigabyte/MSI para los shooteros xD
Aquí por suerte se ha pasado por agua ;D
Sí la verdad que la temática que están utilizando últimamente para los disipadores de las placas tienen telita…....xD.:wall:
Con lo sencillo y bien que quedarian disipadores en negro mate y a tirar..............En Fin,
Yo desde que empezé a "mojarme", lo paso todo por agua..........., mejor rendimiento,menos temperaturas, y mas bonitos.............xD.
Gracias por los comentarios, y Bienvenido por aqui kpablo.
Salu2…
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Sí la verdad que la temática que están utilizando últimamente para los disipadores de las placas tienen telita…....xD.:wall:
Con lo sencillo y bien que quedarian disipadores en negro mate y a tirar..............En Fin,
Yo desde que empezé a "mojarme", lo paso todo por agua..........., mejor rendimiento,menos temperaturas, y mas bonitos.............xD.
Gracias por los comentarios, y Bienvenido por aqui kpablo.
Salu2…
te han escuchado, lastima que parece no va a salir a la venta, pero la pinta es buena.
Rampage IV Extreme - Black - The Ultimate In Tech Exclusivity - Republic of Gamers
dicen que las tiene Nvidia para un proyecto ni idea de que se trata.
saludos
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Pues es una lástima, me gusta más en negro que roja y negra, no se si traerá algo más con respecto a la Rampage normal, pero desde luego impresiona ver toda la placa negra ;D
Un saludo.
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Pues es una lástima, me gusta más en negro que roja y negra, no se si traerá algo más con respecto a la Rampage normal, pero desde luego impresiona ver toda la placa negra ;D
Un saludo.
Traera supongo una tarjeta de esas de sonido y de conexión para juegos, como la R3B, asi quizá no tengan los problemas con el sonido de las R4E, aunque aquí veo un video y no parece que tenga nada de tarjeta de sonido pcie, aunque viene sin bundle.
Video: Hands-On With the Rampage IV Extreme - Black - Republic of Gamers
saludos
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Traera supongo una tarjeta de esas de sonido y de conexión para juegos, como la R3B, asi quizá no tengan los problemas con el sonido de las R4E, aunque aquí veo un video y no parece que tenga nada de tarjeta de sonido pcie, aunque viene sin bundle.
Video: Hands-On With the Rampage IV Extreme - Black - Republic of Gamers
saludos
¿Habéis visto el monitor que tiene y a la distancia que lo ve? :wall:, y rajaban de mi….. :troll:
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¿Habéis visto el monitor que tiene y a la distancia que lo ve? :wall:, y rajaban de mi….. :troll:
Eso fue lo primero que me fije, supongo que usara poco el teclado raton y si juega tendrá un Pad, para ponerse mas lejos por que me parece una pasada un monitor tan grande para estar tan cerca.
saludos
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Buenas Jotole.
Has visto la sucesora msi con 32 fases de alimentacion.
Es para la generacion de Haswell z87, una preciosidad estas placas. Si cambio de plataforma seguramente que me decante por alguna msi.
Un saludo.
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Buenas Jotole.
Has visto la sucesora msi con 32 fases de alimentacion.
Es para la generacion de Haswell z87, una preciosidad estas placas. Si cambio de plataforma seguramente que me decante por alguna msi.
Un saludo.
La placa de esta captura es una MSI z87 no se si será esa que dices, de todas formas en Z87 es fácil que también las Asus y Gigabyte destaquen, incluso la Biostar podrían ser buenas para SLI simple, pero las Gigabyte y Biostar parece que tendrán una tarjeta de sonido de calidad, integrada en placa, al menos las Assasind, en Biostar las de gam alta, pero eso que ya se ve a la Maximus VI a 7ghz y tocara esperar a ver cuales interesan mas.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1387728/lightbox/post/19881544/id/1439030
saludos
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La placa de esta captura es una MSI z87 no se si será esa que dices, de todas formas en Z87 es fácil que también las Asus y Gigabyte destaquen, incluso la Biostar podrían ser buenas para SLI simple, pero las Gigabyte y Biostar parece que tendrán una tarjeta de sonido de calidad, integrada en placa, al menos las Assasind, en Biostar las de gam alta, pero eso que ya se ve a la Maximus VI a 7ghz y tocara esperar a ver cuales interesan mas.
saludos
Es la MSI XPower Z87, es que me ha impactado las fases de alimentacion de esa palca, como bien dices las gigabyte e biostar tendran mejores chipset de audio y seguramente que con menos desembolso consigas los mismos efectos de potencia sobre la cpu, ram e gpus.
Es impresionante un i5 subido a 6ghz, pienso que habrá sido con r.l.No se el precio que tendrá de salida pero me parece muy buena placa, habrá que esperar que salga haswell para verla funcionar.
Saludos.
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Buenas Jotole.
Has visto la sucesora msi con 32 fases de alimentacion.
Es para la generacion de Haswell z87, una preciosidad estas placas. Si cambio de plataforma seguramente que me decante por alguna msi.
Un saludo.
No es la sucesora, esta es para 1150, la sucesora sería una posible X99. Pero vamos esta placa tiene una pintaza.
32 fases de potencia…............. :ugly:
Despues de tener la Big Bang durante 4 meses que llevo con ella, solo puedo decir cosas buenas de MSI, no tendría tan buenas palabras para las anteriores X79 que he tenido, una Rampage IV, a la cual se le iba la pinza a la bios cuando le parecia, y una Asrock Extreme 7, que no era capaz de aguantar el trio de 670. No me imagino lo que sería de esa placa con el trio de Titanes…......
Esta MSI me ha sorprendido mucho, tanto que cuando cambie de placa miraré lo primero MSI. ;).
Salu2....
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