Renewal Team

[Ytri]

Hello,

I currently have this PC that I think needs to be upgraded:

Asus P5K motherboard
Intel Socket 775 Dual Core E6750 2.66mhz
Nvidia 8800GTS graphics card (256Mb Dedicated)
2gb Kingstom DDR2 - 800Mhz
NZXT H2 Black case
SilentX 480W power supply (I doubt if it's 480 or 550W)

I've been looking at buying these components:

http://xtremmedia.com/?q=cconfig/view#A009750,A002844,A007337,A018827,A002310

I want to recycle the case, keyboard, mouse, and monitor, as well as the power supply, if it's sufficient. As my maximum budget for the moment is 400€, I've thought about using the GTS 8800 in the new system and forgoing a graphics card for now. How do you see it? Will the graphics card be a bottleneck with that system?

Best regards and thanks, Ytri.

[Sylver]

Hello,

I would look at the following components, and measure the case well for the space. Recycling that power supply doesn't seem like a good idea to me, in this budget I have put a better one, also replaceable by a Corsair TX650 depending on the price you find it at (the page I have used is for convenience, then you can look for the same components in the store you prefer, where you find them cheaper)

Custom budget. PcComponentes.com

Best regards

[Ytri]

Many thanks,

If it is true that I have now looked at the i5-3470 instead of the i5-3570 since the differences are minimal and in games you wouldn't notice the difference, besides it is cheaper.

About the font, I am having a lot of doubts about the brand and W that I currently have, I will buy one, only if it is necessary.
The CPU fan would reuse the one I have, an Artic Cooling Rev 7 PRO.

I have reconfigured a bit, how do you see it?

http://xtremmedia.com/?q=cconfig/view#A002844,A007337,A002310,A010284,A008468

Regards, Ytri.

[Sylver]

It's not bad, make sure that heatsink is compatible with the 3470, I haven't stopped to look at it, and invest in the power supply, it's the life of the computer and a bad power supply can blow up taking one or several components with it, imagine the hassle of having to replace them all... I assure you that's where it's worth spending the most money.

Regards

[Obione]

It is compatible with ASRock motherboards. Stretch a bit for the 840 120GB and the B75 Pro3 ATX. If you get the Z75 Pro3, even better, that way you give it 4 extra points for turbo and make it run above the 3570.

[Ytri]

Thanks to everyone,

Obione I don't understand the second part about the motherboard, what does the Z75 give me over the B57? The B75 Pro3-M is the one I have in the budget, what's the difference with the one you suggest? (B75 Pro3 ATX).
The price difference between the Sandisk 64gb and the Samsung 120Gb I can't afford, it's 40€. I would use the SSD only for Windows and games that do a lot of disk reading, like Diablo 3.

Sylver taking into account what you tell me, I've decided to lower the T.G. a bit to be able to access a power supply if necessary, I've replaced the 7850 2gb ddr5 with the 7790 2gb ddr5. Big difference? Am I crazy making the change? or is it not much of a loss? the price is 35€ less, with that I could get a power supply for example like the one I configured, also changing the graphics card:

Edit I confused the config:
http://xtremmedia.com/?q=cconfig/view#A002844,A007337,A017919,A001143,A008468,A010284

By the way, my intention is NOT to overclock anything.

Regards, Ytri.

[ferelxyx]

the source put this= Source ATX Nox Urano VX 750W Active PFC 140 mm - 56 euros
the motherboard is = ASROCK B75 PRO3 - 65.60 euros
the memory is = Geil Black Dragon DDR3 1600MHz 8Gb 2X4Gb PC3-12800 - 61.50 euros
you also have the option of this graphics card = MSI Radeon HD 7850 OC 1GB GDDR5 - 150 euros
all looked at in your store

regards

[Sylver]

Well, honestly, I don't think saving €35 is a good deal when there's a difference of about 40% or more in performance and 1GB less of memory.

A normal comparison: Radeon HD 7790 vs Radeon HD 7850 – Performance Comparison Benchmarks @ Hardware Compare

Best regards

[Ytri]

Oy vey!! I almost bought a miniATX motherboard jejeje thanks ferelxyx

About the graphics card, which one is better?

Gigabyte HD7790 2gb GDDR5
MSI Radeon HD 7850 OC 1GB GDDR5

Best regards, Ytri

[Ytri]

@Sylver:

Well, honestly, I don't think it's a good saving to pay 35€ when there's a difference of approximately 40% or more in performance and 1Gb less of memory.

A normal comparison: Radeon HD 7790 vs Radeon HD 7850 – Performance Comparison Benchmarks @ Hardware Compare

Regards

I put the 2Gb GDDR5 one, not the 1Gb one

[Sylver]

@Ytri:

I put the 2GB GDDR5 one, not the 1GB one

True, I didn't notice that. Anyway, it still has half the bandwidth of the 7850 (128 bits vs 256), the performance is lower in any case.

Regards

[Ytri]

Aha, ok. And much difference between the 7850 2gb with 7850 1gb?

[amd125]

@Ytri:

Aha, ok. Y mucha diferencia entre la 7850 2gb con 7850 1gb?

Nowadays, 2 Gigas is better if the graphics card is decent and you want it for gaming. At Full HD, there are games that need more than 1 Giga. At the resolution you play at, 1 Giga should be fine, but thinking about the future, 2 is better.

I only recommend 1 Giga if you want a graphics card for office work. Then it's better to get a cheap graphics card with 1 Giga than to pay more for 2 Gigas when the graphics card won't use that memory due to lack of power.

[Obione]

@Ytri:

Thanks to everyone,

Obione I don't understand the second part about the motherboard, what does the Z75 give me over the B57? The B75 Pro3-M is the one I have in the budget, what's the difference with the one you suggest? (B75 Pro3 ATX).
The price difference between the Sandisk 64gb and the Samsung 120Gb I can't afford, it's 40€. I would use the SSD only for Windows and games that require a lot of disk reading, like Diablo 3.

Sylver taking into account what you said, I've decided to lower the T.G. a bit to be able to access a power supply if necessary, I've replaced the 7850 2gb ddr5 with the 7790 2gb ddr5. Is there a big difference? Am I crazy making the change? or is it not a big loss? The price is 35€ less, with that I could afford a power supply like the one I configured, also changing the graphics card:

I edit that I confused the config:
http://xtremmedia.com/?q=cconfig/view#A002844,A007337,A017919,A001143,A008468,A010284

By the way, my intention is NOT to overclock anything.

Best regards, Ytri.

If you can't afford the SSD, you can go with a magnetic one or save more, stretching for what I've told you is to save later, both the 120GB on disk and having 2 in the GPU.

As for the motherboard, the Z allows you to overclock 400MHz on the non-K ones so for less money than the 3470-3570 jump you end up with a superior micro that would be the next to a 3570.

[Sylver]

Basically that's it, now the giga is becoming insufficient for almost all games, so a good future bet is to buy a graphics card with 2Gb. In the worst case, when it starts to become insufficient, you can add another one and stretch the configuration for several more years.

Regards

[Obione]

By the way, Gigabyte, which is more reliable than Sapphire, has a good price. So, save up until you can afford the Z75, the 7850 2GB and the SSD, even if you have to make do with a magnetic one (if you work with a magnetic one, make a 100GB partition so you can dump the image without problems later).

Editing: Oops, I was thinking about pccomponentes, I don't know how the GA-7850-2GB is at xtremmedia.

Editing2: 400MHz by multiplier is not OverClock! ;D

[Ytri]

Many thanks to everyone,

finally, this is the configuration I'm going to buy:

http://xtremmedia.com/?q=cconfig/view#A002844,A007337,A008468,A002310,A009775,A011401

As always, exceeding the budget, if it can't be…

I have a question, could I put my Kingston HiperX Blue 2x1Gb 800Mhz DDR2 memory in this computer?

Would it do me good?

bad?

or tickling? hehe

Best regards, Ytri.

[Sylver]

DDR2? That's obsolete. For several years, motherboards have only supported DDR3, and soon we will see the jump to DDR4...

Best regards

[Franziskaner]

@Sylver:

¿DDR2? That's obsolete. For several years, motherboards have only supported DDR3, and soon we will see the jump to DDR4…

Regards

exaggerated …. DDR4 not long ago in this forum it was said that DDR4 was ready but that they did not have a market (servers and other at most) because it was not necessary.
regards

[ferelxyx]

@Ytri:

Many thanks to everyone,

finally, this is the configuration I'm going to buy:

http://xtremmedia.com/?q=cconfig/view#A002844,A007337,A008468,A002310,A009775,A011401

As always, exceeding the budget, if it can't be…

I have a question could I put my Kingston HiperX Blue 2x1Gb 800Mhz DDR2 memory in this computer?

Would it do well?

Bad?

or tickling? hehe

Best regards, Ytri.

it's pretty good, I would change the memories for some Gskill or Corsair of the same price
because the Kingston ask for a lot of voltage, I tell you this because I have them and they are a bad investment

regards