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    • amd125A Desconectado
      amd125 Veteranos HL @garfield
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      @garfield:

      Really? Problems? I want to know which store it is so I can never go there. You suffer because of OC, not because you put an unlocked multiplier micro on it.
      Get it with a z87 motherboard, although there are Bios for other motherboards that also work with multipliers and that's it.

      • 1 An Intel K is bought to overclock. If you don't have a clue or don't want to OC, don't buy the K (unless it's cheaper, but it's usually the opposite). Apart from that, it's worth it, the motherboard doesn't suffer. The micro will suffer if you have it with a bad heatsink and it reaches high temperatures. You'll have slightly higher consumption, but not much more.

      They are micros designed for Overclock. And as your partner indicates, you need a good motherboard to get the most out of them without having to go to a top of the range, for 100€ there are Gigabyte motherboards and for a little more Asrock ones that are more than valid.

      And to the guy from the store, I'm really sorry, but in stores there are people who know a lot and people who think they know a lot, which is not the same. I don't think he did it with bad intentions, but he's not right.

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        MaxLG @amd125
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        No no I mean, the person who helped me said that they have problems with the MOTHERBOARDS when overclocking them, not the processor, man, it would just be a shame if they unlocked the multiplier and it wasn't prepared xD.

        The person who helped me said that people who bought the K models later told him they had problems. The store is Modular, I've been to several and it's the one I liked the most.

        And I was going to buy the Asrock, but the guy at the store and some friends told me they are a bit bad, so I'll probably get a gigabyte or an ASUS.

        +1 to 2

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          ferelxyx Veteranos HL @MaxLG
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          @MaxLG:

          No no o sea a ver, el que me ha atendido me ha dicho que tienen problemas las PLACAS al hacerle el overclock, no el procesador, hombre namas faltaria que te desbloquean el multiplicador y no esta preparado xD.

          El que me ha atendido me ha dicho que los modelos K que ha vendido luego la gente le ha dicho que ha tenido problemas. La tienda es Modular, he ido a varias y es la que mas me ha gustado.

          Y las Asrock la iba a comprar pero el de la tienda y unos amigos me han dicho que son un poco malas, asi que seguramente me pillare un gigabyte o una ASUS.

          +1 a los 2

          preguntales a los de la tienda en que lustro viven, decir que las placas Asrokc son malas eso era hace años, dile que actualice su cerebro que esta anticuado en informática,
          puedes ver a algunos de por aquí que tenemos Asrock en mi caso la equivalente a la que compres tu y llevo muchos años montando y reparando equipos,
          y si yo la compre no será mala, no crees, yo prefiero asrock y gigabyte,asus solo en modelos algo altos y msi no me gusta aunque no son malas de todo, yo no las quiero

          el i5 por la diferencia compra el K, aunque no le hagas O.C. yo tengo un K y solo lo tengo a 4000mhz
          y la placa mia si sufre. pero por las memorias Kingston que son una Kk para ponerlas a 1600Mhz tengo que subir el voltaje a 1.65v y eso si que hace sufrir la placa y aquí esta como nueva

          un saludo

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            Tecnho Veteranos HL @ferelxyx
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            Are Asrock motherboards bad? As your friend said, if we talk about years ago when it was Asus's budget range, I still had one in am2 and it was more durable than many high-end ones, the components are a lottery, I've had Asus, EVGA, Gigabyte in the last 3 years and the one that has given the most problems is Asus in 2 different models, I built p67 Asrock for 3 friends with Sandy and they are there like rocks, which does not mean that they do not release a batch and they come out bad, but to this day I am one of the brands that I would go to buy right now. In the htpc I have an Asrock h67 and it works like a charm.
            Some stores do not know if they only hear the bells or they want to sell the stock that interests them...

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              MaxLG @Tecnho
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              Jaja, ok well I was going to buy an asrock z87 extreme 4 initially, and I will probably get it.

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              • SylverS Desconectado
                Sylver Veteranos HL @MaxLG
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                Interesting, you tell us that you go to a store where they undervalue the best quality/price and they surely sell Ferraris with a Vespa engine. I don't know if it's you or if you live in a parallel dimension, but your threads always leave us all with this face -> :ugly:

                On the subject in question, I think everything has already been said more than once, right?

                >> i7-2600K Sandy Bridge @4.4GHz || Noctua NH-D14 || ASRock Z77 Extreme4 || 4x8Gb G.Skill Ripjaws X DDR3 1600MHz || XFX RX 5700 XT 8Gb || SSD Samsung 850 PRO 256Gb & 850 EVO 500Gb || WD Caviar Green 1Tb || Barracuda 1Tb || Corsair TX650 V2 || M-Audio Fast Track Pro || KRK RP8 RoKit G3 || BenQ GW2750 27"
                >> Athlon 64 X2 5600+ Brisbane @2.9GHz || Gigabyte GA-M61PME-S2 || 2x2Gb DDR2 Kingston 800MHz || Sapphire Radeon HD 5850 Xtreme 1Gb || Maxtor 320Gb SATA2 || OCZ ModXStream 500W Modular || TEAC PowerMax 120/2 || Acer X243w 24"
                >> Intel Core2Duo E6600 Conroe @2.4GHz || Asus P5N32-SLI SE DELUXE || 2x1Gb DDR2 Kingston 800MHz || Asus nVidia GeForce 9800GT 1Gb GDDR3 || Seagate Barracuda IDE 80Gb 7200RPM || Linkworld LPK12-35 450W

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                  Bm4n @Tecnho
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                  @Tecnho:

                  .Some stores don't know if they just hear the bells or if they want to sell the stock that interests them…

                  Probably, with so much uselessness, it's normal that people don't know who to listen to.

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                  ↳ Mis componentes

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                    MaxLG @Sylver
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                    @Sylver:

                    Interesting, you tell us that you go to a store where they undervalue the best quality/price and they surely sell Ferraris with a Vespa engine. I don't know if it's you or if you live in a parallel dimension, but your threads always leave us all with this face -> :ugly:

                    On the subject in question, I think everything has already been said more than once, right?

                    JOeder dude, I just ask, I'm going to spend a lot of money on a PC and I don't want any crap

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                      Sylver Veteranos HL @MaxLG
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                      @MaxLG:

                      JOeder tio, yo solo pregunto, me voy a gastar una pasta en un PC y no quiero cualquier mierda

                      Me parece perfecto. El motivo (o más bien la intención) de mi comentario es que de ahora en adelante NO te arrimes siquiera a esa tienda de iluminados de la que siempre nos hablas. Nunca más si puede ser.
                      Esto no implica que ahora el foro se convierta en tu consultorio personal. Con esto me refiero a que si googleas bastante aprenderás una cantidad de cosas a una velocidad que ni te imaginas. Sólo en caso de que no te aclares en absoluto en términos de rendimiento de hardware (no que te leas cuatro páginas y digas: "uff que ladrillo, no lo entiendo), sólo entonces, está bien que abras aquí tu hilo, preguntes, expliques y se te intentará ayudar sin ningún tipo de problema.

                      Para que lo entiendas, lo que nos fastidia es que salgas de casa y vayas a "Iluminados del Hardware S.L." y te inyecten basura en la mente, y que, acto seguido, vengas a contárnoslo con el pretexto de "es que yo no sé nada". Más que nada, porque hasta en éste mismo foro (no hay que irse muy lejos) hay decenas de hilos donde se aclaran diferencias y capacidades del hardware, sobre todo del que a ti te interesa, de forma objetiva.

                      (Me da que nadie quería redactar todo esto, pero me he levantado con energía)

                      Saludos

                      >> i7-2600K Sandy Bridge @4.4GHz || Noctua NH-D14 || ASRock Z77 Extreme4 || 4x8Gb G.Skill Ripjaws X DDR3 1600MHz || XFX RX 5700 XT 8Gb || SSD Samsung 850 PRO 256Gb & 850 EVO 500Gb || WD Caviar Green 1Tb || Barracuda 1Tb || Corsair TX650 V2 || M-Audio Fast Track Pro || KRK RP8 RoKit G3 || BenQ GW2750 27"
                      >> Athlon 64 X2 5600+ Brisbane @2.9GHz || Gigabyte GA-M61PME-S2 || 2x2Gb DDR2 Kingston 800MHz || Sapphire Radeon HD 5850 Xtreme 1Gb || Maxtor 320Gb SATA2 || OCZ ModXStream 500W Modular || TEAC PowerMax 120/2 || Acer X243w 24"
                      >> Intel Core2Duo E6600 Conroe @2.4GHz || Asus P5N32-SLI SE DELUXE || 2x1Gb DDR2 Kingston 800MHz || Asus nVidia GeForce 9800GT 1Gb GDDR3 || Seagate Barracuda IDE 80Gb 7200RPM || Linkworld LPK12-35 450W

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                        MaxLG @Sylver
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                        @Sylver:

                        I think it's perfect. The reason (or rather the intention) of my comment is that from now on DO NOT even go near that store of enlightened people that you always talk to us about. Never again if possible.
                        This does not imply that now the forum becomes your personal consulting room. By this I mean that if you google enough you will learn a lot of things at a speed you can't even imagine. Only in case you are completely unclear in terms of hardware performance (not that you read four pages and say: "ugh, that's a brick, I don't understand it), only then, it's okay that you open your thread here, ask, explain and you will be tried to help without any problem.

                        So you understand, what annoys us is that you go out of the house and go to "Iluminados del Hardware S.L." and they inject garbage into your mind, and then, you come to tell us with the excuse of "it's that I don't know anything". More than anything, because even in this very forum (you don't have to go very far) there are dozens of threads where differences and capabilities of hardware are clarified, especially the one you are interested in, in an objective way.

                        (I feel that no one wanted to write all this, but I got up with energy)

                        Regards

                        Haha ok I understand, and the thing about the brick is not because of that, it's more that I find everything very interesting, but many pages of comparisons between versions of the same model are in English and the translator is quite uncomfortable, besides you don't have the opinion of people who know like in this forum.

                        About the store, well it's one of the best, in the others they don't have even half of the components that I asked for (among them the asrock, z87, i5 4670K, the ram G.skill sniper etc), and when that happened instead of looking at what computer they could make for you, they gave you a catalog with computers with parts preselected by them, and with that excuse they made it more expensive and besides in small print they put the VAT, so if you found a PC cheaper and that was similar to the one from the other store, in the end you saw the VAT super small and it was more expensive :ffu:

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                        • SylverS Desconectado
                          Sylver Veteranos HL @MaxLG
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                          @MaxLG:

                          Jaja ok I understand you, and the thing about the brick is not about that, it's more that I find everything very interesting, but many pages comparing versions of the same model are in English and the translator is quite uncomfortable, besides you don't have the opinion of people who know how in this forum.

                          The store thing, well it's one of the best, in the others they don't have half the components that I asked for (among them the asrock, z87, i5 4670K, the G.skill sniper ram etc), and when that happened instead of looking at what computer they could make for you, they gave you a catalog with computers with parts preselected by them, and with that excuse they made it more expensive and besides in small print they put the VAT, so if you found a cheaper PC that was similar to the one from the other store, in the end you saw the VAT super small and it was more expensive :ffu:

                          Having more components doesn't mean it's a better store, in fact, if they are telling you the utter nonsense that you have commented on previously, I fear it is more dangerous to talk to those hardware people than to google and build your own computer... :facepalm:

                          Regards

                          >> i7-2600K Sandy Bridge @4.4GHz || Noctua NH-D14 || ASRock Z77 Extreme4 || 4x8Gb G.Skill Ripjaws X DDR3 1600MHz || XFX RX 5700 XT 8Gb || SSD Samsung 850 PRO 256Gb & 850 EVO 500Gb || WD Caviar Green 1Tb || Barracuda 1Tb || Corsair TX650 V2 || M-Audio Fast Track Pro || KRK RP8 RoKit G3 || BenQ GW2750 27"
                          >> Athlon 64 X2 5600+ Brisbane @2.9GHz || Gigabyte GA-M61PME-S2 || 2x2Gb DDR2 Kingston 800MHz || Sapphire Radeon HD 5850 Xtreme 1Gb || Maxtor 320Gb SATA2 || OCZ ModXStream 500W Modular || TEAC PowerMax 120/2 || Acer X243w 24"
                          >> Intel Core2Duo E6600 Conroe @2.4GHz || Asus P5N32-SLI SE DELUXE || 2x1Gb DDR2 Kingston 800MHz || Asus nVidia GeForce 9800GT 1Gb GDDR3 || Seagate Barracuda IDE 80Gb 7200RPM || Linkworld LPK12-35 450W

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                            MaxLG @Sylver
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                            @Sylver:

                            Having more components does not mean it is a better store, in fact, if they are telling you the absolute nonsense that you have told us before, I fear that it is more dangerous to talk to those hardware people than to google and build your own computer... :facepalm:

                            Regards

                            What I will do is go to the store and tell them that I want what I say, even if they tell me that the Asrock will explode when I overclock the i5.

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                              Sylver Veteranos HL @MaxLG
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                              @MaxLG:

                              What I will do is go to the store and tell them that I want what I say, even if they tell me that the Asrock will explode when I overclock the i5.

                              That's right, you go back, maybe they will convince you and sell you a Raspberry Pi as a top gamer :sisi:

                              Regards

                              >> i7-2600K Sandy Bridge @4.4GHz || Noctua NH-D14 || ASRock Z77 Extreme4 || 4x8Gb G.Skill Ripjaws X DDR3 1600MHz || XFX RX 5700 XT 8Gb || SSD Samsung 850 PRO 256Gb & 850 EVO 500Gb || WD Caviar Green 1Tb || Barracuda 1Tb || Corsair TX650 V2 || M-Audio Fast Track Pro || KRK RP8 RoKit G3 || BenQ GW2750 27"
                              >> Athlon 64 X2 5600+ Brisbane @2.9GHz || Gigabyte GA-M61PME-S2 || 2x2Gb DDR2 Kingston 800MHz || Sapphire Radeon HD 5850 Xtreme 1Gb || Maxtor 320Gb SATA2 || OCZ ModXStream 500W Modular || TEAC PowerMax 120/2 || Acer X243w 24"
                              >> Intel Core2Duo E6600 Conroe @2.4GHz || Asus P5N32-SLI SE DELUXE || 2x1Gb DDR2 Kingston 800MHz || Asus nVidia GeForce 9800GT 1Gb GDDR3 || Seagate Barracuda IDE 80Gb 7200RPM || Linkworld LPK12-35 450W

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                                MaxLG @Sylver
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                                @Sylver:

                                That's it, you go back, maybe they'll convince you and sell you a Raspberry Pi as a top gamer :sisi:

                                Best regards

                                Haha, no way. If they have it, they have to sell it to me, I'm their customer.
                                Besides, I have no other alternative, in the other stores they don't have what I want, and at PC components they charge you for assembling it and my budget is already gone

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                                  lforos Veteranos HL @Sylver
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                                  And just out of curiosity … which store are we talking about?

                                  I know people who do know about this and they are unemployed... Of course, if the tech consultant you're talking about is the owner's son, it's complicated...

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                                    MaxLG @lforos
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                                    @lforos:

                                    And just out of curiosity … Which store is it?

                                    I mean, I know people who do know about this and they are unemployed... Of course, if the tech consultant you're talking about is the owner's son, it's the same complicated...

                                    I think I remember saying it already, but it doesn't matter, the store is Modular, and I thought it was good, I even think they sell power supplies of the same brand. But anyway, one day I might get the one who served me and another day I might get a guy who really knows what he's talking about.

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                                      garfield Veteranos HL @MaxLG
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                                      You won't be confusing a modular font with Modular Fonts, will you?

                                      I ask.

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                                        Sylver Veteranos HL @garfield
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                                        @garfield:

                                        Aren't you confusing a modular font with Modular Fonts?.

                                        Asking.

                                        +1

                                        :ugly: :ugly: :ugly: :ugly: :ugly: :ugly: :ugly: :ugly: :ugly: :ugly: :ugly: :ugly:

                                        This is starting to become a mythical thread…

                                        >> i7-2600K Sandy Bridge @4.4GHz || Noctua NH-D14 || ASRock Z77 Extreme4 || 4x8Gb G.Skill Ripjaws X DDR3 1600MHz || XFX RX 5700 XT 8Gb || SSD Samsung 850 PRO 256Gb & 850 EVO 500Gb || WD Caviar Green 1Tb || Barracuda 1Tb || Corsair TX650 V2 || M-Audio Fast Track Pro || KRK RP8 RoKit G3 || BenQ GW2750 27"
                                        >> Athlon 64 X2 5600+ Brisbane @2.9GHz || Gigabyte GA-M61PME-S2 || 2x2Gb DDR2 Kingston 800MHz || Sapphire Radeon HD 5850 Xtreme 1Gb || Maxtor 320Gb SATA2 || OCZ ModXStream 500W Modular || TEAC PowerMax 120/2 || Acer X243w 24"
                                        >> Intel Core2Duo E6600 Conroe @2.4GHz || Asus P5N32-SLI SE DELUXE || 2x1Gb DDR2 Kingston 800MHz || Asus nVidia GeForce 9800GT 1Gb GDDR3 || Seagate Barracuda IDE 80Gb 7200RPM || Linkworld LPK12-35 450W

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                                          ¿Te refieres a la tienda Modular Technology de Barcelona? :facepalm:

                                          ¿Me estás diciendo que en la calle con más concentración de hardware por metro cuadrado de la ciudad condal, no encuentras los componentes para montarte un equipo normal, como el que formarían los componentes por los que has abierto todos eso hilos?
                                          ¿Me estás diciendo que en ninguna de las decenas de tiendas que hay en esa calle, muchas de ellas con solera y prestigio, no te pueden montar el equipo que les pidas con los componentes que les pidas? :facepalm:
                                          ¿O es que, tal vez, te cobran por hacerte el montaje de ese equipo, y te gustaría que te lo hicieran gratis? :osvaisacagar:

                                          Un saludo

                                          Mis equipos

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                                            pues anda , que no me extrañaría nada que fuera la tienda que dice Nemo .
                                            esa tienda no es barata precisamente y tiene unas cuantas ramas en otros foros de problemas que han tenido ( si buscas un poco los encontraras ) personalmente no me gusta .
                                            otra tienda que deberías evitar es revolution computer . su política de devoluciones deja mucho que desear .
                                            saludos

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