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[Obione]

http://xtremmedia.com/?q=cconfig/view#A003640,A002712,A008468,A001648,A010284,A012397,A001243,A008383

http://xtremmedia.com/?q=cconfig/view#A008468,A001648,A010284,A012397,A011653,A002827,A001299,A011130

Cheaper version, it may end up costing you more in the long run needing more power in source or capacity in disk. It has no OC capability.

[amd125]

@Obione:

http://xtremmedia.com/?q=cconfig/view#A003640,A002712,A008468,A001648,A010284,A012397,A001243,A008383

http://xtremmedia.com/?q=cconfig/view#A008468,A001648,A010284,A012397,A011653,A002827,A001299,A011130

Cheaper version, it may end up costing you more in the long run by needing more power in the source or disk capacity. It has no OC capability.

+1 to the cheaper configuration if you don't want to reach 600€. Anyway, it would be interesting to know if you can save something from your current equipment and also tell us what equipment you have and at what resolution you play.

For example, I play at 1280*1024 and for that resolution with the company's equipment I have more than enough, but to play in Full HD today you have to leave a good amount of money for a graphics card. The Ati 7770 is one of the best for its price range, but it can't run all games in Full HD for example.

If you could reuse your current equipment's hard drive, case, dvd etc. even the power supply, you would give us more margin. You could even sell the micro + memos + motherboard and with that give a boost to buy a new computer.

I would also look into the option of building an AMD platform with a micro similar to the 8320 - 8120 as it seems that with the arrival of new consoles, there are already games that could better take advantage of more than 4 cores and for the present day, they are also very good processors. The I5-I7 generally perform better in games, but as I say, these AMDs are not slouches either.

Another option if your equipment is not that old, for example if you have a similar equipment to mine, is to buy a decent graphics card that gives new life to the equipment and later change the platform.

Best regards and you will keep us posted.

[NoKeR]

@Kernel1.0:

Que PC comprar - 17-07-2013 - HardLimit échale un ojo y después vamos resolviendo dudas.

Salu2

Gracias! esta tarde le echaré un vistazo, vaya currada de post.

@amd125:

+1 a la configuración más barata si no quiere llegar a los 600€. De todas formas sería interesante saber si se puede salvar algo de tu equipo y de paso que nos digas qué equipo tienes y a qué resolución juegas.

Yo por ejemplo juego a 1280*1024 y para esa resolución con el equipo de la firma voy sobrado, pero para jugar a Full HD a día de hoy hay que dejarse un dinero majo en una gráfica. La Ati 7770 es de lo mejor para su rango de precio, pero no puede mover a Full HD todos los juegos por ejemplo.

Si pudieses aprovechar de tu actual equipo el disco duro, caja, dvd etc incluso puede que la fuente, ya nos darías más margen. Incluso podrías llegar a vender micro + memos + placa y con eso dar un impulso para comprar un equipo nuevo.

Tambien miraría la opción de montar una plataforma AMD con un micro similar al 8320 - 8120 pues parece que con la llegada de las nuevas consolas, ya hay juegos que podrían aprovechar mejor más de 4 núcleos y para el día adía son procesadores también muy buenos. Los I5-I7 rinden en general mejor en juegos, pero como digo esos AMD tampoco son mancos.

Otra opción si tu equipo no es tan viejo, por ejemplo si tienes un equipo similar al mío, es comprar una gráfica decente que le de una nueva vida al equipo y más adelante ya cambiar de plataforma.

Un saludo y ya nos irás contando.

Mi equipo actual lo usará un familiar, de ahí que no pueda desprenderme de el.

En cuanto a la plataforma, en un principio tenia pensado intel, concretamente un i5, pero no me cierro en banda, he tenido AMD y el rendimiento ha sido muy bueno.

En el tema de los juegos, siempre he jugado a la resolución más alta que he podido o que me ha dejado, no tengo una fija, pero soy conciente de las limitaciones del presupuesto, no me cierro en banda a gastar algo más de pasta siempre y cuando la diferencia sea considerable, de todas formas siempre se podría comprar la gráfica más adelante o cambiarla.

[Obione]

@NoKeR:

…anyway you could always buy the graphics card later or change it.

That's the idea of the 607€ + shipping config, to have a power supply that's on par with a 200€ GPU (it wouldn't hurt to buy the 520W Seasonic by the way, the S12II have 5 years of warranty VS 3 of the CX that you have in the budget option, I put the S12II of 620 because it cost little more). Plus you have a Z77 with which to put the 3470 at the level of a 4670 by overclocking it and a case with more cooling possibilities with 2 lower filters that come in very handy. As for the hard drive, calculate what you'll need keeping in mind that price/mega will give you the best deal for the 2TB of the expensive one over the 1TB of the cheap one.

If you're not going to be able to spend a bit more money soon, you can get by with the integrated one but, I would enjoy the PC from now with a 7770 which isn't bad and is quite cheap, and later buy an R280X or similar when they're over 200€.

[Sylver]

@Obione:

That's the idea of the 607€ + shipping config, to have a power supply that's up to a 200 euro GPU (it wouldn't hurt to buy the 520W Seasonic by the way, the S12II have 5 years warranty VS 3 of the CX that you have in the cheap budget, I put the S12II of 620 because it cost little more). Plus you have a Z77 with which to put the 3470 at the level of a 4670 by boosting it via turbo and a case with more cooling possibilities with 2 lower filters that come in very handy. As for the disk, calculate what you'll need keeping in mind that price/mega will give you the best deal for the 2TB of the expensive confi than the 1TB in the cheap one.

If you're not going to be able to spend more money soon, you can go with the integrated one, but I would enjoy the PC from now with a 7770 which isn't bad and is quite cheap, and later buy an R280X or similar when they're over 200€.

The bottom line is in this post. It's the right configuration, I fully support it. Although I would go straight for the powerful graphics card, now is now :sisi:

Regards

[amd125]

I think the same, if you can't stretch for a fancy graphics card, a 7770 is the best in its price range. Or save a little more, and reach the 700€ that would allow you to go for a fancier graphics card. It all depends on your ability to save, if it's a big effort for you, no, otherwise I would wait to have a fancy graphics card to buy the whole system. So with a little luck, the RAM that has been very overpriced for a few months will come down in price.

The configuration they indicate is very good.

[NoKeR]

You have convinced me to get the graphics card even though I have to wait a little while, it seems like it will be worth it.

So as for the platform, is Intel better than AMD?

[Sylver]

Yes, Intel performs quite well above AMD in each of the ranges (Low, Medium and High). Raw power, good architecture, perhaps a bit hot the Ivy for example, but nothing outrageous.

For proof, look at the signatures of the veterans, it will be rare that you do not see an Intel in the first team

Regards

[amd125]

@Sylver:

Si, Intel rinde bastante por encima de AMD en cada una de las gamas (Baja, Media y Alta). Potencia bruta, buena arquitectura, quizás algo calientes los Ivy por ejemplo, pero nada escandaloso.

Para muestra un botón, ojea las firmas de los veteranos, raro será que no veas un Intel en el primer equipo

Saludos

Es cierto, pero también AMD tiene micros muy majos, que rinden algo menos pero también son más baratos. EL AMD 8320 ronda los 135€ y es un muy buen micro, con buena capacidad de overclock y no se mueve mal en juegos. Lo que se ahorra en el micro lo puede invertir en una mejor gráfica o ahorrar en un futuro algo más para un Disco duro SSD. Los Intel rinden más pero los AMD no son cojos.

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