General errors

[fjavi]

@saaroc:

Apu: A10-5800k
Gigabite: Gigabyte GA-F2A88XM-D3H
Ram: G.skill 2x2GB DDR3 1600mhz CL9
Fuente: thermaltake litepower 600w
Monitor: Lg Flatron L1718S

That's my pc, it's newly assembled and I'm having endless problems with it:

• image shakes
• When minimizing and then maximizing chrome it gets all black, when I move the mouse over it becomes visible again, just from the trail the mouse leaves
• General performance issues, I was copying a file, it was going at 50Mbps and it dropped to kbps, chrome's favicon icons don't load, errors like that hundreds.

I have windows 8.1 and the most updated version of the video drivers, all the drivers are fine …

Did you update bios?
You may also need some Windows update
it's strange that if you have it from the factory these kind of issues happen, but maybe you need to look into putting the latest bios from the gigabyte website.

regards

[saaroc]

Windows updates are up to date and I haven't touched the bios.

I can't find any explanation :wall:

[Sylver]

It smells like a failing hard drive here… You don't say anything about it, brand, model, etc... Have you tested it with tools like Crystal Disk Info?

[saaroc]

ST3500320AS 500,1 GB

It is that model, the test passes it at risk because of the number of sectors reallocated.

Can the hard drive make the image tremble???

[Sylver]

@saaroc:

ST3500320AS 500,1 GB

It's that model, the test fails it due to the number of reallocated sectors.

Can the hard drive make the image shake???

What I suspected...

The hard drive can make the system literally wobble, I've had drives that when they were in bad shape slowed down the system, interrupted file transfers or corrupted data at random due to the progression of deterioration.

My recommendation is that you save all the important information you have on that drive and put a new one in, and that you try to check them constantly with this type of tool that I've mentioned.

When you install the operating system on a new hard drive you should be able to use it normally without any strange problems.

Regards

[saaroc]

@Sylver:

Lo que sospechaba…

The hard drive can make the system literally flip, I've had drives that when in bad condition slowed down the system, interrupted file transfers or corrupted data at random due to the prolongation of deterioration.

My recommendation is that you save all the important information you have on that drive and put a new one on it, and that you try to check them constantly with this type of tools that I mentioned.

When you install the operating system on a new hard drive you should be able to use it normally without any strange problems.

Regards

Well no, I have changed the hard drive for another one that I had in good condition and nothing.

Could the problem be overheating? The micro has reached temperatures of 70 º and it seems like a lot to me for that micro.

The thermal paste is new …

[Sylver]

Have you formatted and reinstalled the operating system? Have you tried with another system? for example a Linux boot cd or similar, to see if you can rule out the hardware or if it's just software.

Regarding the micro, if it doesn't have a decent heatsink, that temperature is quite high without having overclocked.

You haven't said anything about the graphics card and it smells to me that it could also be the main culprit... is it new? brand and model? temperatures?

If none of this were the case, perhaps running a memtest would shed some light on the matter, but the graphics card seems to me to be a priority.

Regards

[Kernel1.0]

If you use the one with the processor, the excessive temperature explains everything.
I edit. Yes, I see that the maximum temperature is 74 for this CPU. That is, it lowers the performance so as not to fry, make sure you have the heatsink properly placed and the fan working.

[whoololon]

It comes from Monitor tiembla. Resolucion y drivers ok - HardLimit
@whoololon:

You can try it on the television, try connecting the PC there if you don't have another monitor.
Where I start to get lost is when you comment that on the laptop it works well, that with a LiveCD you have the same problem, and that the problem appears after a while.
Does it work well when connected to the laptop for more than half an hour?
Does the problem appear from the POST, or after finishing loading the OS?
Is the connector that your laptop uses the same one that you connect to your PC with?

It could be that the motherboard (the integrated graphics or the micro itself) are damaged to a greater or lesser extent. Try installing a GPU that someone was kind enough to lend you.

[saaroc]

@whoololon:

Viene de Monitor tiembla. Resolucion y drivers ok - HardLimit

Pudiera ser que la placa base (la gráfica integrada o el mismo micro) estén dañados en mayor o menor medida. Prueba instalar una GPU que alguien fuese tan amable de prestarte.

A la placa le he echado un vistazo haber si hay algo inflado, grafica AMD no tengo otra, en todo caso devolver el micro pero si resulta que no tiene nada te cobran 20 € creo …

Las tempertaturas son lo que me tienen mosca, os pongo una imagen por si veis algo extraño:

[whoololon]

We could start by knowing what heatsink you have installed, because if you have the one that comes with the micro in the "box" version, it is normal for an APU to reach that temperature, as Kernel1.0 has already pointed out.
Think that summer is coming.
If you assembled the computer yourself, check the assembly again and more carefully. In any case, it is obvious that something is not right: you have already mentioned that the hard drive had quite a few bad sectors.
I reiterate that it is a hardware defect (I cannot specify at what level) and I base this on the fact that the problem occurs even when using a LiveCD.

Edit: If that temperature (77º C) is reached at rest, it goes without saying that the heatsink is either ineffective or not properly installed.

[Kernel1.0]

79 degrees…. before you power anything up make sure the heat sink is properly fitted.

[saaroc]

The fan is well placed, what surprises me is that it reaches those temperatures and the RPM does not exceed 2000, I have seen that it can reach almost double.

What I have already done is to order a better cooler, I do not want to fry the micro because reaching such a temperature in normal use scares me. :fuckyea:

[saaroc]

@saaroc:

The fan is well placed, what surprises me is that it reaches those temperatures and the RPM does not exceed 2000, I have seen that it can reach almost double.

What I have already done is to order a better cooler, I do not want to fry the micro because reaching such a temperature in normal use scares me. :fuckyea:

Those values do not seem to be correct, I have taken other screenshots:

with the aida64 program
Dropbox - Enchufe normal.jpg

and from the Bios
Dropbox - 140305120454.BMP

I just passed the memtest and it did not give any problems, the micro, motherboard or power supply are the suspects (I also checked the disdo duto)
Could it be something misconfigured in the BIOS?, I have not touched it, I have it as it came by default.

[Sylver]

Have you tried a Linux live CD?

Best regards

[saaroc]

@Sylver:

Have you tried a Linux live CD?

Best regards

Yes, on the Ubuntu live CD and on the Hiren's Boot CD, when I ran the memtest, there were also vibrations.

The problem is either hardware or BIOS configuration, but I'm not exactly sure what. The hard drive, monitor, and RAM have been checked, so it's either the motherboard, CPU, or power supply...

[Sylver]

I would go for the simple option, put a PCI-e graphic card and its corresponding drivers and see if there are any changes…

Regards

[saaroc]

@Sylver:

I would go for the simple solution, put a PCI-e graphic card and its corresponding drivers and see if there are any changes…

Regards

I have got a graphic card, an NVIDIA one. I have deleted the other drivers, installed the ones that came with it and I have done a stress test, the one from Aida. I am not, for the moment, having any problems with the stress test. With the APU at 5 minutes everything was lagging a lot, with the graphic card nothing.

Before changing the graphic card, I updated the BIOS and nothing. In the BIOS when I put optimized values (or something like that) the problem got worse.

So it is supposed to be a problem with the APU. If that is the case I have to resort to the warranty ¬_¬ of pccomponentes, the micro is less than 6 months old:

• could there be any problem???
• what should I say so they don't give me the run-around (electrical problem, hardware defect …)

[whoololon]

Note that the APU is only "half" of the graphics capacity of your original equipment, the other half is integrated into the motherboard, so if the fault is there (as it seems) it can be as much a problem with the motherboard as with the micro.
Also clarify that when you connect a discrete graphics card, the integrated one is deactivated, which is why you don't have problems now.
If it is still under warranty, contact them and send them the motherboard and micro.

[saaroc]

@whoololon:

Keep in mind that the APU is only "half" of the graphics capability of your original equipment, the other half is integrated into the motherboard, so if the fault is there (as it seems) it could be a problem with either the motherboard or the micro.
It should also be clarified that when a discrete graphics card is connected, the integrated one is deactivated, which is why you don't have any problems now.
If it's still under warranty, get in touch with them and send them the motherboard and micro.

The micro is from pccomponentes, according to what I've read, they're very bad for returns, so first I'm going to start the return process for the motherboard to Amazon, I think I bought it a week ago. Could there be any problems??. I'm thinking of saying that the PC has a graphics problem and that the micro has been tested on another motherboard that works well.