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      fjavi @Patagonico
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      @Patagonico:

      I guess they should be at 15-20% over the 780 TI, it will also be an improvement, being 3 months, I think it's worth waiting more knowing that they would also improve in consumption and perhaps price.

      Regards.

      Depending on how they do it, but up to 30% they could get out, anyway, now there are rumors of a GM200 with 4000SP at 28nm, people don't realize that this is impossible.
      If Kepler has 2880SP and Kepler's SP occupy less space, I don't know how they will fit 4000 in 28nm, if it's true that nvidia is preparing a GM200 for mid-2015, also with 512 bits and 4000SP it must be 20nm, in 600mm it doesn't fit that much SP with 28nm.

      They will be rumors even though they put it as if they are sending it.
      http://videocardz.com/51032/nvidia-maxwell-gm200-spotted-new-gtx-titan-ii-core
      these from videocardz are already like gossip, it's incredible that news, especially in 28nm in 20nm if it's more possible.

      regards

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        Patagonico @fjavi
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        @fjavi:

        Depending on how they do it, but up to 30% they could get out, anyway now there are rumors of a GM200 with 4000SP at 28nm, people don't realize that this is impossible.
        If Kepler has 2880SP and Kepler's SPs take up less space I don't know how they're going to fit 4000 in 28nm, if it's true that nvidia is preparing a GM200 for mid-2015, also with 512 bits and 4000SP it must be 20nm, in 600mm it doesn't fit that much SP with 28nm.

        They will be rumors even though they put it as if they are sending it.
        http://videocardz.com/51032/nvidia-maxwell-gm200-spotted-new-gtx-titan-ii-core
        these from videocardz are already like gossip, it's incredible that news, especially in 28nm in 20nm if it's more possible.

        regards

        If I had read the news, in another source they also publish that the cost of the chip only without pcb would be $ 370 and it would be 50% more than a Titan Black

        But we are talking about almost 1 year let's see how it turns out.-

        regards.-

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          fjavi @Patagonico
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          @Patagonico:

          If you had read the news, another source also published that the cost of the chip alone without pcb would be $ 370 and would be 50% more than a Titan Black

          But we are talking about almost 1 year let's wait to see how it turns out.-

          Regards.-

          But that's a lie, they can't do that in 28nm, it would have to be a bigger chip than the ones Nvidia made and even then perhaps by those dates it could do it in 20nm.

          These are the typical rumors that are invented like that of the fermi that would be double that of a 295, they said 200%, it was incredible.

          Just like the one that says Nvidia will skip 20nm and wait for 16nm, it is unlikely because if they still can't manufacture in 20nm, waiting for 16nm could take too long.
          Unless they reach an agreement with Samsung to manufacture the chips with TSMC I think it's difficult.

          Regards

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            Patagonico @fjavi
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            @fjavi:

            But that's a lie, they can't do that in 28nm, it would have to be a bigger chip than the ones Nvidia made and even then maybe by that time it could do it in 20nm.

            These are the typical rumors that are invented like that of the fermi that would be double that of a 295, they said 200%, it was incredible.

            Just like the one that says Nvidia will skip 20nm and wait for 16nm, it's not very believable because if they can't even manufacture in 20nm, waiting for 16nm could take too long.
            Unless they reach an agreement with Samsung to manufacture the chips with TSMC, I think it's difficult.

            Regards

            If it's true we just have to wait until November to see what these GTX 870 / 880 in 28nm turn out to be and then in 2015 see how the 20nm pieces move? or how they're supposed to be 14/16 nm with some company competitor of TSMC.-

            Regards.-

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              fjavi @Patagonico
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              @Patagonico:

              If it's true we just have to wait until November to see what these GTX 870 / 880 in 28nm turn out to be and then in 2015 see how the 20nm pieces move? or how it's supposed to be 14/16 nm with some company competitor of TSMC.-

              Saludos.-

              I don't think we have to wait that long, because what they're really going to release is this GM204, today it seems that Nvidia presents something that may be that GM204 and surely also the Shield Tablet.

              http://videocardz.com/51078/nvidia-geforce-gtx-880-arrives-gamescom

              It seems something more powerful than the 780Ti and it's the mid-range and in 28nm, almost certainly they would also release an 870Gtx something faster than the 780Ti, but above all cheaper.

              SOMETHING DEFINITIVE IS COMING | NVIDIA
              easy that by mid-August they release those GM204.

              Saludos

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                Patagonico @fjavi
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                @fjavi:

                I don't think we need to wait that long, because what they're really going to release is this GM204, today it seems that Nvidia presents something that could be that GM204 and surely also the Shield Tablet.

                http://videocardz.com/51078/nvidia-geforce-gtx-880-arrives-gamescom

                It seems something more powerful than the 780Ti and it's the mid-range and in 28nm, almost for sure they would also release an 870Gtx a bit faster than the 780Ti, but above all cheaper.

                SOMETHING DEFINITIVE IS COMING | NVIDIA
                it's easy that by mid-August they release those GM204.

                Regards

                If they already started speculating about its performance on one side they talk about 25% more than a GTX 780 Ti on another 35-40% over a GTX 780.

                It's not bad for a 28nm gpu although for those of us who are already in 2160p we need more power I think that in 20nm it could hit the nail on the head.

                It's also incredible that practically shortly after 4K appears the graphics approach good performance at 60 fps, when for 1600p several years passed even with SLI it was hard to achieve it.

                Regards.

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                  If speculation has already begun about its performance on one side they talk about 25% more than a GTX 780 Ti on another 35-40% over a GTX 780.

                  It's not bad for a 28nm gpu although for those of us already at 2160p we need more power I think that at 20nm it could hit the nail on the head.

                  It's also incredible that practically shortly after 4K appears graphics are approaching good performance at 60 fps, when for 1600p several years passed even with SLI it was hard to achieve it.-

                  Regards.-

                  The capture is confusing, there are people who looking at the crossed out part take out the Geforce 88, but I don't know if it will be real because those GPU score ratings have been taken out by Jotole and ELP3 with their Titan, although at more than 1400mhz.
                  the 4770K is at series frequency although it can be manipulated, if that were real and it gives that GPU score with a 4770K without OC it should perform well, although 3dmark is not reliable but with how important the CPU usually is in 3dmark, if the graphics gave that as standard it would perform well, always counting that in the end they are cheaper than the 680 when they come out.

                  All that would be missing is that they were also good at overclocking like the 750Ti, but the key will be the price, the normal thing is that they are 4Gb of memory, although until a more reliable rumor is seen that can be manipulated with a Titan raised or a 780Ti, although it will need 1400mhz or something close and more OC to the CPU.

                  What you should do is wait for 20 or 16nm, because the top chip of the range should come out and refreshes of those 8x0, and it's easy to happen as with the 770 that they end up being better and cheaper than the first GK104.
                  although according to why they could put as an excuse that the process is expensive, and bring out something better but maintaining the price.

                  Regards

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                    Patagonico @fjavi
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                    @fjavi:

                    The capture is confusing, some people look at the crossed out part and think it's a GeForce 88, but I'm not sure if it's real because those GPU score ratings have been coming from Jotole and ELP3 with their Titan, although at more than 1400mhz.
                    The 4770K is at series frequency although it can be manipulated, if that were real and it gives that GPU score with a 4770K without OC it should perform well, although 3dmark is not reliable but with how important the CPU usually is in 3dmark, if the graphics card gave that as standard it would perform well, always counting that in the end they are cheaper than the 680 when they come out.

                    All that's missing is that they are also good at OCing like the 750Ti, but the key will be the price, the normal thing is that they will be 4Gb of memory, although until we see a more reliable rumor that can be manipulated with a Titan raised or a 780Ti, although it will need 1400mhz or something close and more OC to the CPU.

                    You should wait for 20 or 16nm, because the top chip should come out and refreshes of those 8x0, and it's easy to happen as with the 770 that they end up being better and cheaper than the first GK104.
                    although according to why they could put as an excuse that the process is expensive, and bring out something better but maintaining the price.

                    Regards

                    If I really should wait for the 16nm, but what I prioritize is that it has HDMI 2.0 and if the price is relatively good in the GTX 880 and they bring out the GTX 780 a 35% as they say maybe I'll even end up with an SLI that's my country never knows how things will go more so when you're on the tightrope.-

                    Regards.-

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                      fjavi @Patagonico
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                      @Patagonico:

                      If it really is worth waiting for the 16nm, but what I prioritize is that it has HDMI 2.0 and if the price is relatively good on the GTX 880 and they release the GTX 780 a 35% as they say perhaps I might even end up with an SLI, it's that my country never knows how things will go but I'm on the tightrope.-

                      Regards.-

                      Do you want HDMI 2 to connect to the TV?
                      The 35% thing I see as a bit complicated, because it's still 28nm, I think they will be a little more powerful but cheaper, better consumption and temperature, although the latter depends on the SPs they put in
                      If they put in about 2500SPs it should be a little more powerful but would need a larger DIE than a 770 or 680.

                      Anyway I think they won't take long to release some better ones, when they can manufacture at 20nm or less.

                      Regards

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                        Patagonico @fjavi
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                        @fjavi:

                        Do you want HDMI 2.0 to connect to the TV?
                        I see the 35% thing as a bit complicated, because it's still 28nm, I think they will be a little more powerful but cheaper, better consumption and temperature, although the latter depends on the SPs they put in
                        If they put about 2500SP it should be a little more powerful but would need a larger DIE than a 770 or 680.

                        Anyway, I think they won't take long to release some better ones, when they can manufacture at 20nm or less.

                        Regards

                        Exactly, HDMI 2.0 for the TV, although the Beta 340.43 drivers remove the 30HZ limitation for 4K, allowing the use of 60 Hz, I think the ideal thing is to always have something that works natively and connect the monitor via DisplayPort.

                        The rumors are GTX 880 $499 (supposedly 8GB) more feasible that it's the 4GB one
                        the GTX 870 $399 and the GTX 860 $299.

                        What makes me upgrade is the same thing that happened to me with the Titan at the time, which practically doubled its price, it's the economic fluctuations in my country where everything goes up in price and there are restrictions on imported products.

                        As the saying goes, a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

                        Regards.

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                          @Patagonico:

                          Exactly, HDMI 2.0 for the TV although the Beta 340.43 drivers remove the 30HZ limitation for 4K and can use 60 Hz I think the ideal thing is to always have something that works natively and connect the monitor via DisplayPort.-

                          the rumors are GTX 880 $499 (supposedly 8GB) more feasible that it is the 4GB
                          the GTX 870 $399 and the GTX 860 $299.

                          What makes me upgrade is the same thing that happened to me with the Titan at its time that practically doubled its price afterwards, it's the economic fluctuations of my country where everything goes up in price and restrictions on imported products.-

                          As the saying goes, a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.-

                          Regards.-

                          These say they will cost a little less and talk about September, that 880 shouldn't cost more to manufacture than a 4GB 770, the 870 could be better, although they talk about versions of 4 and 8 GB, I don't think they will release the 8GB ones, if they do it will be up to the partners, I doubt Nvidia with a 256-bit bus.
                          http://videocardz.com/51117/exclusive-nvidia-geforce-gtx-880-released-september

                          To me that price they say if it fits me more and I think it's even expensive, but we have to see how much it yields.

                          regards

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