Microsoft Windows 10

[Fassou]

Microsoft has just presented its new OS called Windows 10, in which again, they intend to unify all devices, from mobile phones, tablets, through to PCs and servers, although it seems that this time they could achieve it :mudo:

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Although it is not likely to appear commercially until mid-2015, the Windows 10 Technical Preview version is almost here

Salu2!

[Bm4n]

It's like saying "we've done what we should have done years ago and didn't because it didn't work out for us", pathetic. And the visual aspect is extremely troglodyte.

[cobito]

I think it's a very interesting version of Windows: they're going to introduce something called a "start menu" where the most used activities, all applications, and system configuration and management tools will be grouped together.

On the other hand, they present something called "multitasking" with which it's possible to use several applications at once. I can't quite believe this: several programs running at the same time? It doesn't make sense.

It's also incredibly interesting that new concept where you can have the applications running grouped together. I didn't catch whether it has a name, but if I were to name it, I'd come up with something like "virtual desktop".

And now seriously: is it me or have ordinary users become completely idiots since tablets and smartphones have become popular?

[Yorus]

We will have to see what new features it brings beyond the interface, because I am not convinced by Metro at all, and not just for its use, but for its aesthetics. Nowadays, everyone has screens of 1920x1080 and graphics that offer millions of colors and effects, and they come and put us a parcheesi on the screen? I think it's a misunderstanding of minimalism.

That said, that and that they don't complicate our lives as PC users with so much synergy with touch.

[Sylver]

In my opinion, it was enough to optimize performance and consumption options on the same graphic environment. Adding some standard features that would make the operating system concept more innovative and complete, and finally, adding new standard driver packs to make it more bearable and attractive to install the system from scratch on a computer. If for example we need to install the OS on a computer that for any reason does not have one or that is freshly formatted for any circumstance, in order to give it use quickly and leave the installation of specific programs for later, then the fact of having a powerful, very complete OS (including certain programs that usually do not come with it) and functional to use it directly, is an immense advantage that currently does not exist, since various subsequent installations are needed to leave the computer moderately functional. I think that something like this would revolutionize the concept of OS that we currently have, ignoring some unofficial versions that circulate on the networks and that are certainly not reliable. Best regards

[cobito]

@Sylver:

For my taste, it was enough to optimize performance and consumption options on the same graphical environment. Adding some standard features that would make the concept of an operating system more innovative and complete, and finally, adding new standard driver packs to make it more bearable and attractive to install the system from scratch on a computer.

If for example we need to install the OS on a computer that for any reason does not have one or that is freshly formatted for any circumstance, in order to give it use quickly and leave the installation of specific programs for later, then the fact of having a powerful, very complete OS (including certain programs that are not usually included) and functional to use it directly, is an immense advantage that currently does not exist, since various subsequent installations are needed to leave the computer moderately functional. I think that something like this would revolutionize the concept of OS that we currently have, ignoring some unofficial versions that circulate on the networks and that are certainly not reliable.

Regards

It's not about creating controversy or a sterile discussion that leads nowhere, but you have just perfectly described what a Linux distribution consists of. The truth is that it would be interesting to apply that concept to "Windows distributions".

[Bm4n]

Well, I'm not here to defend Windows, I haven't had it at home for a long time because I use OSX and Ubuntu/Fedora, but the truth is that at the interface level, all OSes haven't advanced much, they follow a similar progression. Internally, the Linux and OSX kernels go a different way, regarding compatibility/drivers Windows has a good level, and in stability/apps I would say below OSX and above Linux.

What's the problem, the users, Windows has a very limited audience that at the slightest change refuses to update because they don't understand, don't comprehend or don't like it, just look at the usage percentage of XP. The opportunity they have now is very interesting to me to lighten the core and unify, now from a mobile to their xbox they can have a X86 hardware that is extremely similar; why not make the same system that adapts the interface to the type of screen, that seems to be what they want to do and it must be said that it's a good idea.

Windows 8 is a great system for touch screens, the problem is that they made the jump too soon and for the millions who still use a mouse and keyboard they don't have a good experience. W10 should have been W8 and vice versa, that's why OSes have a progressive evolution to adapt to users. The same problem Gnome had with its v3, they made a big change modernizing and the people anchored in the past didn't like it.

Anyway, W8 is what we will use in the near future when everything will be touch and traditional desktops and mice will start to disappear. Regarding the core, they will lighten it because it's necessary, and the aspect simple yes but not ugly, I hope they hire some accredited designer and it also adapts according to the graphic resources.

Regarding drivers, it seems we have very little memory ?

[Sylver]

@cobito:

It's not that I want to create controversy or a sterile discussion that leads nowhere, but you've just perfectly described what a Linux distribution consists of. The truth is that it would be interesting to apply that concept to "Windows distributions".

That's exactly what I'm referring to cobito I have my own crusade with Linux and I haven't used it for years, after having spent months studying it and using it forcibly, in almost all its aspects. It's true that I should have mentioned it, at least comparatively, but as you have rightly pointed out, if we remain in the field of "Windows distributions", the points I miss are exactly those.

@Bm4n:

Well, I'm not here to defend Windows, which I haven't had at home for a long time because I use OSX and Ubuntu/Fedora, but the fact is that at the interface level, all OSes haven't advanced much, they follow a similar progression. Internally, the Linux and OSX kernels go down a different path, regarding compatibility/drivers Windows has a good level, and in stability/apps I would say below OSX and above Linux.

What's the problem, the users, Windows has a very limited audience that at the slightest change refuses to update because they don't understand, don't comprehend or don't like it, see the usage percentage of XP. The opportunity they have now is very interesting to me to lighten the kernel and unify, now from a mobile to their xbox they can have a very similar X86 hardware; why not make the same system that adapts the interface to the type of screen, that seems to be what they want to do and it must be said that it's a good idea.

Windows 8 is a great system for touch screens, the problem is that they made the jump too soon and for the millions who still use a mouse and keyboard they don't have a good experience. W10 should have been W8 and vice versa, hence OSes have a progressive evolution to adapt to users. The same problem Gnome had with its v3, they made a big change modernizing and people anchored in the past didn't like it.

Anyway, W8 is what we will use in the near future when everything will be touch and traditional desktops and mice will start to disappear. Regarding the kernel, they will lighten it because it's necessary, and the simple aspect yes but not ugly, I hope they hire some accredited designer and it also adapts according to graphic resources.

On the subject of drivers, it seems we have very little memory

I agree with you.

Regarding drivers, refresh my memory, because I think I've missed something

True, Windows 7 already came equipped conveniently, and that the 8, beyond having touched it once, I haven't looked at it again much less taken action :risitas:

Regards

[Bm4n]

Men, things have improved a lot now, drivers mostly install themselves, and plug and play is more widespread, it used to be a different story, the thing is we've forgotten about when you had to put the drivers in during the OS installation or when you had to pre-install before connecting.

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[Sylver]

Yes, if I haven't forgotten, it's just that some are missed on certain hardware. It is true that it has improved since previous systems, there is no comparison, that's exactly what I'm referring to, but I say that one or another driver of these that ends up leading to instability if not applied quickly is what would be perfect, something like a total stability package.

Obviously, I don't mean replacing the official drivers of a graphics card with a simpler compatible driver and then launching ourselves to play top games now, with everything on ultra

Regards

[Tecnho]

That thing about mice disappearing and everything being touch… will be for a certain audience for whom leisure uses the PC for games as is my case, it's clear if they are going to remove the mouse, another thing is that VR is really implanted and works like an Oculus Rift for example, but that really works, I still don't like the whole touch and I think the mouse is still faster.

[whoololon]

…in fact, I can't imagine a good game without slamming my fist on the keyboard and/or throwing the mouse to the other side of the room. Relax, buddy.
:ugly:

[Yorus]

It is very good that the future is tactile, which I do not fully agree with because not all tasks adapt to that type of use, but I do not see the need to impose a touch-oriented interface right now and for all PCs, including those that are still handled in the classic style which are the majority.

In terms of aesthetics, yes, to me it is ugly, it is a personal appreciation ;).

[krampak]

I stole it from tecnho which made me laugh a lot XD

[Tecnho]

@krampak:

I stole it from tecnho which made me laugh a lot XD

I stole it from mystique :troll:

[whoololon]

To take off the hat. Lolazo. ;D;D;D;D

[cobito]

I don't know if out of curiosity you know why they skipped Windows 9. It's simply a matter of name compatibilities when identifying the version of Windows.

There could be programs that get what version is being used by comparing if it matches the string "windows 9". The problem is that there could be a false positive with Windows 95 and 98.

I don't know if it's a "Captain Obvious" but it had never crossed my mind.

About everything ending up being touch, I don't think that's ever going to happen. I mean, it's not ergonomic. For someone who uses a tablet an hour or two a day to check four things it may work, but someone who spends the whole day in front of the screen, would end up bad in a matter of days.

There are still keyboards and mice that come with warnings about the possible damage to the joints they can cause if not used carefully. Just thinking that I have to do a CAD design with a touch device, gives me chills.

[Mystique]

@Tecnho:

Yo se la robé a mystique :troll:

y yo no se de donde lo saque, puede que de fino…

[Fassou]

Reflotum! :troll:

In this page you can find the ISO to install the Technical Preview of Windows 10 (March 2015).

@Requirements:

Processor: 1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster

RAM: 1 gigabyte (GB) (32-bit) or 2 GB (64-bit)

Free hard disk space: 16 GB

Graphics card: Microsoft DirectX 9 graphics device with WDDM driver

A Microsoft account and Internet access

Salu2!

[Bm4n]

Is it supposed to update itself or do I have to install it? I'm going to start it up to see... PD. Is it just me or does Windows seem more and more troglodyte-like, or does it change a lot or I fear that 10 is not going to be a great Windows, I don't understand where they put so many millions because in R&D... Maybe they all go to the development of patches for IE.