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    • ClipperC Desconectado
      Clipper
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      Hello everyone

      well that's it I'm thinking about upgrading my PC which is roughly an AMD 965 a GTX660 and a RAID 0 of a terabyte and a half and 4gs of ram
      which is already 5/6 years old.
      I intend to stay with AMD <:(
      the first configuration I thought of would be this:

      MICRO AMD 8370 204,00
      PLACA Asrock 990FX Extreme3 - Placa Base 109,00
      MEMORIAS G.Skill Ripjaws X DDR3 1866 PC3-14900 16GB 2x8GB CL9 84,80
      MEMORIAS G.Skill Ripjaws X DDR3 1866 PC3-14900 16GB 2x8GB CL9 84,80
      SSD Samsung 850 Evo SSD Series 120GB SATA3 - Disco Duro SSD 59,95
      SSD Samsung 850 Evo SSD Series 120GB SATA3 - Disco Duro SSD 59,95
      total 602,50
      to that I would add a RAID 0 of two mechanical drives of 500 gs and another of a terabyte for backups
      for graphics I'm between keeping the GTX 660
      setting up an SLI of GTX660
      or buying a 960
      the use….
      AUTOCAD
      SONY VEGAS 13 PRO
      and play something :ugly:
      do you see it balanced
      regards and thanks

      EDIT
      the reason I have to be AMD is because my computers last me a long time and every so often I put a new micro if necessary or a new graphics card, as was the case with my current computer
      the micro was a 9950 and the graphics card a GTX280
      regards again

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      • EspinetenbolasE Desconectado
        Espinetenbolas Veteranos HL
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        I don't understand the reasoning that it has to be AMD... I'm not sure if the next thing they release will be more powerful than Intel or at least be on par, but one thing is for sure... it won't be compatible with AM3 in any way.

        It will be AM4 with support for DDR4 and a completely revamped architecture in both design and manufacturing process... it has cost them and what's left if everything goes as planned.

        There's still a year to go but if you want more info check out this link: AMD's Next Generation Bristol Ridge "FX-9830P" SOC Leaked - Replaces Carrizo SOCs on FP4 Platforms in 2016

        We'll probably start seeing benchmark results in about 9 months but I'm very skeptical about the performance because it's a huge leap from 32nm to 14nm and because all this time AMD has been on the sidelines while Intel sold its rehashed intelcores at a premium.

        To be honest, I had a Phenom II x4 955 and switching to an Intel I7 4790K is no contest... it's a different beast... even though I had it at 3.6ghz, you can't compare the power of the Intel, how cool it runs and how little it consumes compared to the Phenom... and with the current FXs, we're not even talking.

        And it's not to criticize but AMD itself is going to offer a gaming PC (Fury X Project Quantum PC) with liquid cooling that features a dual Fury-X that delivers 16Teraflops but the CPU is intel:

        Radeon R9 FURY X2 8GB News - AMD Is Using An Intel i7-4790K Processor In Its Dual R9 Fury X Project Quantum PC

        I hope AMD gets its act together but honestly, if you want to upgrade, I wouldn't get what you've posted and would go for an intel

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        • whoololonW Desconectado
          whoololon Veteranos HL @Espinetenbolas
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          Bad time to shell out for a new PC.
          Generally.

          ...me lo dicen las voces...

          hlbm signature

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          • ClipperC Desconectado
            Clipper @whoololon
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            Hello
            Come on, if I want to stay with AMD I'll have to wait two years :wall:
            well.
            I'll set up RAID 0 of SSD's and SLI of 660
            thanks for the answers
            regards

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            • EspinetenbolasE Desconectado
              Espinetenbolas Veteranos HL @Clipper
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              Let's see… I don't see the RAID for the SSD because, among other things, it will give you problems and very poor performance with AMD's SATA controller... which is one of the reasons I also switched to Intel.

              If it were for mechanical disks there wouldn't be much of a problem, but for SSDs it doesn't support TRIM and therefore as soon as the disk starts rewriting memory cells, it's going to be veryyyyyyyyy slow.

              In other words, in a nutshell, that RAID not only doesn't compensate you but it's throwing money away.

              Moreover, Intel and Micron are going to release their brand new 3D XPoint in January, which gives NAND several laps, so the price of the latter (associate it with the price of SSDs) is going to plummet and if one wants a cucumber hard drive, one doesn't need to build RAIDs or strange stories... just get a PCI-E drive which is much better.

              As for the improvement, the main problem with your upgrade doesn't give you a big improvement because from a 965 to an FX 8370 it's a minimal improvement and a substantial increase in consumption:

              AMD Phenom II X4 965 vs FX 8370

              However, switching to an Intel would mean a much greater improvement even by getting a 4690K which is a micro not very new and of mid-low range.

              Intel Core i5 4690K vs AMD FX 8370

              Intel Core i7 4790K vs AMD FX 8370

              It's true that these comparisons with a score are very biased but really if you look at what's important... that is, in the power per core, there's no comparison.

              What's interesting today in the mid-range to have a good cucumber that will last you years is a Z170 with a 6700K and about 16 or 32Gb of DDR4 to move what you want and expandable up to 64Gb and an SSD Samsung by PCI-E (950 Pro)... besides in less than a year Intel is going to release the Skylake-R (REFRESH) which will be more efficient and powerful since they will have polished the current 14nm process.

              As for SLI... it's always the same... if the second graphics card comes at a great price I see no problem but if not, a single GPU is preferable... it also depends on the game but what is certain is that you will have less consumption and more power in everything.

              I just see MultiGPU useful in professional equipment with professional graphics in a Workstation of 10 or 20,000€ and for gamer equipment of 5,000€ but that the mid and low range allow SLI and Crossfire <:(, honestly I think it's a ploy so that distributors can get rid of old graphics stock more easily.

              To sum up... look into it but I strongly advise against that RAID because with your current equipment it will give you very poor performance and for a future equipment it will be quite useless. And SLI well, it depends on the price you can get and the games you get hooked on but I also advise against it.

              To sum up... save the money ?

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              • ClipperC Desconectado
                Clipper @Espinetenbolas
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                GOOD…
                well, since a family member broke the motherboard (thanks to his radix)
                I gave him part of my equipment: motherboard, memos, micro and power supply
                and now, for work reasons, I can't be alone with the raspberry :wall::wall::wall:
                I bought a GIGABYTE 970A-D3P rev2 for 50 euros new
                for now I'll give the micro to my family member and I'll put an "old" 9950 in it and I'll keep the 965
                I'm missing the power supply choice... CORSAIR but... which one?
                it has to be 750W gold
                candidates
                750RM
                750RMx
                750RMi
                I don't mind spending the money on a good power supply but I also don't want to throw away the money
                is it worth stretching to the RMi?
                for the graphics I'll put my GTX660
                for now 4G memos from second hand
                and next month I'll put an FX8xxx or a 9xxx micro, although I think they're stoves
                the equipment is only for AUTOCAD COREL and MASTERCAM
                so I guess I'll have to stretch and put 16 gigas of ram
                apart from the fact that it's AMD, do you see any problem with the configuration?
                greetings and thanks
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                • EspinetenbolasE Desconectado
                  Espinetenbolas Veteranos HL @Clipper
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                  The only difference between the RM and the RMi is that the series that has the "i" has the "Corsair Link" that allows you to monitor the power supply via USB... the rest is identical.

                  I have the HX750i and monitoring the power supply's consumption and temperatures is good for bench tests or stress tests but I admit it's a bit of a gimmick ?

                  Both are very good and extremely quiet. ;D

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                  • ClipperC Desconectado
                    Clipper @Espinetenbolas
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                    @Espinetenbolas:

                    The only difference between the RM and the RMx is that the series with the "x" has the "Corsair Link" that allows you to monitor the power supply via USB... everything else is identical.

                    I have the HX750i and monitoring the power supply's consumption and temperatures is good for bench tests or stress tests, but I admit it's a bit of a gimmick ?

                    Both are very good and extremely quiet. ;D

                    I understand that the difference between the RM and the RMx is that the second one doesn't have the connector for the motherboard (to control the fan RPM, right?)
                    Regards

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                    • EspinetenbolasE Desconectado
                      Espinetenbolas Veteranos HL @Clipper
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                      @Clipper:

                      I understand that the difference between the RM and the RMx is that the latter does not have the connector for the motherboard (to control the fan RPM, right?)
                      Regards

                      The RM series is a discontinued series (it came out last year but is no longer manufactured)… and the connector it has is not for controlling the fans via PWM with the motherboard as you say... it's a Corsair Link communication port to connect the PSU to a gadget like this:

                      http://www.corsair.com/es-es/corsair-link/corsair-link-hardware

                      It's for those who have the power supply, the cooler and the underwear from the brand Corsair and do not have enough USB ports ?

                      Let's say it doesn't make much sense to buy that power supply if you don't have a Corsair Link.

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                      • ClipperC Desconectado
                        Clipper @Espinetenbolas
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                        let's go that the thing is between the MRx and the MRi ;D;D
                        and by logic the normal thing would be the MRx, right?
                        regards and thanks

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                        • ClipperC Desconectado
                          Clipper @Clipper
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                          well.
                          well today I received the MRi ;D;D;D
                          now I have a doubt
                          the motherboard is a gigabyte 970A-D3P
                          and I wanted to mount 16GS of RAM
                          to be exact these
                          http://http://www.pccomponentes.com/g_skill_ripjaws_x_ddr3_1866_pc3_14900_16gb_2x8gb_cl9.html?gclid=CjwKEAiAt_K0BRCzjtv92_HGoR0SJAA9QNn_cQlqiRO5UCPvTmDOAcrB5a4y160IbWwVqXXVnBooYRoCnS_w_wcB
                          the doubt
                          according to this they are not supported
                          http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5193#memory%20support%20list

                          and for one or two months I will use the AMD965 micro
                          will it work?
                          greetings and thanks for clarifying so many doubts

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                          • EspinetenbolasE Desconectado
                            Espinetenbolas Veteranos HL @Clipper
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                            Whether they are compatible or not :troll: … what they are not is certified by the manufacturer but that doesn't mean anything... it's normal for them to work well if the board supports that speed and voltage.

                            What they are not compatible with is the memory controller of the 965 since the Phenom II only support modules up to 4Gb per slot 4x4gb -> 16Gb

                            While the FX would perfectly support 8gb per slot 4x8gb-> 32gb which is the maximum in DDR3 in 4 slots

                            I know this just because I also considered the FX when I had the Phenom II 955 but the move didn't pay off and I decided to save a little more and make the switch to intel which was much more powerful and gave fewer problems.

                            That is to say that if you want 16Gb you have to buy two kits of 2x4gb ?

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                              Clipper @Espinetenbolas
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                              well, a pair of 4g ddr3 kinstong from 1066 to 1600 for 17 euros each on amazon have fallen
                              now to find time to assemble the gadget
                              i will upload some photos
                              regards

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