AMD Zen, news and comments

[cobito]

There is a rather unreliable rumor that the Zen could end up with the commercial denomination SR3, SR5 and SR7. This reminds us a bit of when AMD released the Athlon XP and put a number higher than the micro frequency, implying that it was the equivalent performance of a Pentium 4 at that frequency. Or even further back with the PR models of the K5 architecture.

Via TechPowerUp.

EDITED: I just saw that right in the post before you, whoololon had already echoed the information

[JuezDred]

Well, tests aside... I must confirm that it is a leap comparable to the one AMD made when they released the K8, with the Pentium 4 HT as the top of the range.

[rul3s]

@JuezDred I hope it's like that... I've wanted to switch back to AMD for a long time!

[cobito]

@JuezDred ¿Confirmas? :thinking:

[whoololon]

@JuezDred

[whoololon]

Well, I bring something from Guru3D

Obviously, it's just a rumor, and the fact that the SR7s appear with a TDP of 95 W, just like the SR5s, puzzles me quite a bit...

Accepting octopus as a pet, what I liked the most was the SR3 for gamers, and the SR5 for those who rely on multithreading in the mid-range, let's see how everything turns out.

[cobito]

It looks like AMD is going to do a live demo of Zen in a couple of weeks. The demo will show off the capabilities of the new microarchitecture.

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[Fassou]

Let's hope they improve the staging, and the bosses don't come out on stage.

The last one seemed like a funeral, no matter how many T-shirt launchers they pulled out to be more

[whoololon]

I hate to be a party pooper, but I don't expect anything new from this event.
I'm basing it on the presentation of the RX, and I assume it will be the same: a screen with two very large numbers, one in red and one in blue, where the red one will always be better.
Prepared comparisons, biased data, fulano and mengano explaining the virtues and miraculous properties of this or that, the woodchopper from Tainán waving to reinforce the brand's image of innovation (she still won't wear a skirt), and a pretty average catering.
As if I were watching it, let's go.
...and yet I'll still watch it.

No, I'll discuss the topic, but I'd rather wait for third-party tests.

[Nemo]

@whoololon you are describing any presentation of any product, because they are all like that.
Of course it is normal, I can't imagine Tim Cook presenting the Macbook pro saying: "Well, our competition has the latest processors, 4K screens and all kinds of connectors,...but ours has an apple that no longer lights up".
If they don't talk well about their own products ¿who is going to talk?

[cobito]

I don't know, AMD could have a processor in its hands capable of competing with Intel across its entire domestic range. Making the fool of yourself in that way can make many indecisives who want to buy now end up buying a Skylake (it is already known that the Kaby Lakes are not going to be interesting).

On the other hand, if they show a comparative and convincing benchmark, those indecisives may decide to wait.

If AMD makes an empty presentation, I wouldn't expect anything special from the Zen, to be honest.

[whoololon]

Well, you're both absolutely right, and as for what "I would like to happen", it would be a straightforward comparison with its pros and cons.
It no longer makes sense to hide the cards since the Kaby are already out, and against the Cannon I don't think the current Zen have anything to do; maybe later.
But indeed it is a staging, with everything very measured and overflowing with marketing everywhere... damn, it makes me lose interest.

[Obione]

There is a lot of jump in IPC, I think their trump card is to release an x6 that doesn't skyrocket in price (or the x8). It was a lot of money to go to a hexacore, now the micro would say it's not expensive in 2011-3 but, the motherboard is. You get a 1151 with a 80-85€ motherboard and you get closer in performance. If they add HT, getting closer in IPC with a 100€ motherboard, not 200, that's their trump card. Like when those x8s stood up to i7s, but only for renders

[rul3s]

Well well.... the more I read about AMD Zen the more I want one... depending on how I see it maybe I'll sell the 4790K and go for a Zen.

How I wish AMD would give Intel a run for its money again!

[Obione]

What use do you give to the Rules team?

I retract what I said in the Intel micro thread that I would change when they planted a micro (x6) and a BBB board. To stretch this until it explodes xD

I hope they turn out good, what a joke the Kaby are.

[whoololon]

@Rules The thing about buying on your day the best, is that you have a machine for the long haul.
That i7 of yours with a 1070 still performs well enough to ignore the first batch of Zen, so unless it's a whim, I wouldn't consider the change so soon. :nerd:

[Obione]

Given the lack of knowledge about its use, it seems to me that it won't be worth it. If it's used for pro editing, it would make sense. Or well, if you're going to use it somewhere else by building the AMD from scratch...

[cobito]

Tonight at 10 pm is the event where Zen is presented.

[whoololon]

Let's get dressed up for the occasion then...

...the thing is that I don't know which panties to wear...

[Obione]

My vote for lace panties.