OC tips for i9-14900KF on ROG MAXIMUS Z690 EXTREME GLACIAL
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Hello everyone,
Many years have passed since I entered as a rebellious kid here in HL, with the intention of overclocking a PIV 1800Mhz (reaching @2520Mhz stable to start in this overclocking thing) and I still hold a lot of appreciation for the advice you have offered me these years in the Forum
Pentium 200@207Mhz MMx
the PIV to 1.8@2.520MHz... a few years with laptops in which I was gone from overclocking... and after recovering my HL user, I started assembling a Gen7 I7-7700K 4.2GHz (@4.5GHz that I don't touch much) and that has accompanied me these years, now after "burning" a ram module, it has stayed as a mule and I have moved to a Gen14 that well, I intend to get the most out of it with what I read around and your advice.The new configuration is i9-14900KF @5.7/5.8/6.0 on ROG MAXIMUS Z690 EXTREME GLACIAL with for the moment DDR 96Gb @6000MHz
What I always do after assembly is to run the HL Benchmark because that's what we have it for. This is the base result:
https://bm.hardlimit.com/result.php?bm=252553f19d47041f7a097aaea6893fb03409
I don't have much to compare with what I have seen, and these days I will start looking how far I can go in overclocking and if it's worth pushing this configuration.
It would be more for satisfaction than anything else, since for design, daily use and gaming, the configuration is more than enough, but in the end, the goat always pulls the mountain and I'm curious to see how far we can get.
So I look forward to your comments to see if we can tweak it together, I'll read you in the thread, thanks!!
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@Hin I don't know to what extent today it is more interesting to undervolt and limit the frequencies than an aggressive overclock and more like the high-end ranges of the Intel 13 and 14 series are behaving. In any case, good luck with that and I will be attentive to your posts and your benchmarks.
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@pos_yo Thanks for stopping by the thread
We will see the options over time, especially I am interested in learning how to take advantage of the OC options that the card can offer.
For the moment the tests with the cpuburner of FurMark, with a simple RL with a 240 radiator the test with stock power is showing peak temperatures of 80ºypocos and a peak of 88º
It is not a data that guarantees anything a priori, but at least it moves away from so many comments of temperatures at 100º that I have been reading after the purchase
As I mentioned when I opened the thread, I will be looking for how far I can go in OC and if it is worth pushing this configuration, applying undervolt or simply leaving it stock
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Another day of tinkering, I'm focusing on finding temperature peaks to see how hot the processor gets, as I've been reading, before doing OC.
Today the idea was to test a game, I'm a Counter Strike enthusiast, so I tested it and in this case the temperature peak was 82° in a 2-hour session.
Right now the custom LC I have is basic as I mentioned, (until I put everything in its place) with a 240 Radiator, poorly placed on the floor of the tower and two 120 fans pulling heat from the radiator instead of blowing it.
Among what I'm reading, this news from last year came out Neither at 30 FPS nor at 60 FPS, Counter-Strike 2 reaches 1300 FPS with the new Intel processor
Let me understand that the news is very "sensationalist" but the performance is there... Do you think that the reputation of these generations in terms of temperatures won't have to do with the cooling used?
I see a lot of AIO use lately instead of custom LC and it makes me think that this micro going to 100° could be due to poor cooling (especially seeing that I've literally "thrown" the components of my custom LC in the case without optimizing to cool better and there's still room for improvement on the temperatures that people complain about)
I look forward to your opinions
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@Hin The problem is not the performance, it's that they have squeezed those CPUs so much, that the silicon lottery has caused signs of early degradation to appear due to temperatures in localized areas. In the end, the 14 series (officially) is a rehash of the 13 series and the 13 series (unofficially) is a rehash of the 12 series and that performance increase is not free... I also think that the CPUs are oversized and if the GPU is at maximum performance, you need little CPU use. It is proven that an i5 12400 gives the same performance as an RX7800X3D as long as the game settings are at the maximum that the graphics can support.
But I repeat, it's your pc, it's your system, if you do it because you like it, all good and good luck with it.
*Edit: The last part came out weird and I have no intention of bothering anyone, I just wanted to say that I think it's fine that you do tests and experiments with your hardware and that everything that happens stays in learning, not only for you, but if you share it, then for everyone... I reread it and it sounded very strange to me and it can be misinterpreted a lot because I put it a bit that way...
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@pos_yo said in OC tips for i9-14900KF on ROG MAXIMUS Z690 EXTREME GLACIAL:
But I repeat, it's your pc, it's your system, if you do it because you like it, all good and good luck with it.
*Edit: The last part came out weird and I have no intention of bothering anyone, I just wanted to say that I think it's fine to do tests and experiments with your hardware and that everything that happens stays as a learning experience, not just for you, but if you share it, then for everyone... I reread it and it sounded very strange and it can be misinterpreted a lot because I put it a bit that way...
jajajajj no problem
I didn't take it as a weird comment, I already commented that the idea is to share the process, so I expect all comments and contributions which is the purpose of the HL forum -
I continued reading news about the OC on i9-14900KF and following the line of CS2 I found this on Geeknetic
They manage to put an Intel Core i9-14900KF at 8 GHz and reach 1300 FPS in Counter Strike 2
at the end of the article they comment this:
[...] the high-efficiency cores of this Intel Core i9-14900KF were disabled, and the frequency of the high-performance cores was increased to 8 GHz. With this Intel has managed to demonstrate that the new processors, in addition to reaching 6 GHz from the factory, are also capable of reaching higher clock frequencies given their overclocking capability.
What do you think? is it a necessary requirement to disable this?
P.D.: I had another link around here about the difference in performance in programs/games, but right now I have lost it...
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Hello! How exciting to hear about your overclocking journey and your new setup. The i9-14900KF is a real beast, and with that motherboard and RAM at 6000MHz, you're sure to push the limits. I'd love to see how you do with overclocking! Do you have any specific goals in mind for performance? I'm here to exchange tips and experiences. Keep sharing your progress!
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Hello @brendag
Well, as I have already mentioned, there is no OC target like the one that can be seen in the news (8GHz or 9Ghz), it's just that I have been linked to HL for many years and I am interested in doing OC to improve performance.
The main idea is to gather info and share the process of what can be achieved at the user level, and especially now I am very interested in seeing how much of the performance issues are true and how they are being solved.
I have been reading these days and I have found a solution to 3 of the 4 usual failures in the latest gen, I will put the link in another post to give my opinion on this.
Possibly ASUS has already applied all these solutions so far and is working on the next one, which is why perhaps the issue of temperatures is more limited when it comes to Bench and Gaming
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I leave you the news I mentioned above
What do you think?
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@Hin said in OC tips for i9-14900KF on ROG MAXIMUS Z690 EXTREME GLACIAL:
I leave you the news that I mentioned above
What do you think?
Well, it seems that in single-thread it is lowering the performance by 5-7% with that new microcode, and they promised that the performance would not be affected...
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@krampak Well we'll see/check it soon since shortly after posting (yesterday 03.10.24) searching, we have news of microcode 0x12B from ASUS
Yesterday they published on geeknetic.es
ASUS launches beta BIOS with microcode 0X12B for Raptor Lake
For now it's a BETA, let's see what happens...
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I update the thread
I keep tinkering with the Bios parameters to get the most performance out of it (I haven't touched the multipliers yet and I'm still around 5720 MHz), to be honest, if I didn't notice the micro temperature issues before, it seems that with the beta update that Asus released, this issue is no longer a problem, the temperature is always stable.
With the latest changes, I've increased the multi-thread ranking performance to 1817876, with improved results in the tests
What I can't manage to do is improve single-thread performance, I don't know if it's due to fatigue, but the results have dropped from 141069 to 131400, I don't know if it's something noticeable or if it's related to having synchronized the cores.
I'll have to read about it, but if anyone can give their opinion, it would be appreciated so that I can continue to improve.
Regards
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Well, from the test bench's point of view, it seems that both tests (the one from October and the one from today) have been executed under the same conditions: PC without background loads, same memory configuration and same version of Windows 10.
In summary, the single-thread results are comparable. And indeed, there has been a 6-7% drop in performance.
The only relevant thing that changes is the BIOS version: 3802 from August vs 3901 from September. On the Asus website is the version 4001 from October where the issue of voltages is solved. Without being an expert in the stability and reliability problems that have been with these micros, my recommendation is that you update as soon as possible.
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@cobito Many thanks for the appreciation, with all the daily routine of returning to work in the last quarter I had not noticed to look at new bios and I had not skipped the notice about this new version of bios, so I continued with the Beta that was released which initially solved the problem 0x12B
Precisely now that you have commented on that % of performance, I scrolled up because the figure sounded familiar to me and in our thread, @krampak already mentioned that same margin of performance drop, so we confirmed firsthand that it is a fact https://foro.hardlimit.com/post/543813
I will update as soon as I can to see if there are improvements and it is fixed
