I need help with a graphic change =)

[daijiro74]

Hello my name is Alberto and I have a problem.. I am a bit ``out of date´´ in the graphics area since I got lost in the nvidia 200 series.. well I have about 450 € to spend.. and the truth is I don't know which one or anything.. and I can't find any site with comparisons of nvidia and its numerous assemblers..((ATI I DON'T LIKE ;))) well.. I hope you give me advice on which one you think would be best for my equipment:

Motherboard: ASUS Striker II Formula
Micro: Intel E8500
RAM: OCZ REAPERX 4gb ddr2
Graphics: Gigabyte GTX260oc 896mb

Best regards and thanks

[Tecnho]

Man 450€ in a graphic for that team do not spend for possible bottlenecks when picking up a graphic, a good model with which you will go in luxury is this for example they go very well and if it falls short in the future then an SLI of the same would be a very good option.

EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti FPB 1024MB GDDR5

[Nemo]

+1 to Tecnho.
It's absurd to spend that much money on a GTX580 for the graphics to be running at half throttle and the processor to be overloaded.
If you're planning a platform upgrade in the next few months, it might make sense, but if it's going to be beyond December, I would wait or directly buy the one recommended by the colleague, which is from a good assembler, good price, and also "enhanced".

Best regards

[daijiro74]

I see very little of that graphics card to be honest.. like a want to and can't.. and only 200€? Since I'm changing graphics cards I'd like something much better than what I have now.. bottleneck? Man I think I have good equipment;D… and man in the future I wouldn't rule out a change of equipment... I'm undecided between these graphics card models to be honest.. what do you think:

GIGABYTE GeForce GTX580 474,95€
GIGABYTE GeForce GTX580 GV-N580SO-15I in Acuista.com
Asus MATRIX GTX580 P/2DIS/1536MD5 467,95€
Asus MATRIX GTX580 P/2DIS/1536MD5 90-C1CQU0-W0UAY0BZ in Acuista.com
Zotac GeForce GTX 580 AMP! 455.95€
http://www.acuista.com/es_es/x/936987-zotac-geforce-gtx-580-amp-zt-50102-10p/

I've always liked to have the best of the best.. and that's why I ask for your opinion since I spend the money I'd like to put something that I know is perfect and there's no possibility of regret

[Tecnho]

Not much of a 560, as it beats the 260 you currently have by quite a bit, I almost prefer an SLI of 560 Ti, and if I were to get a 580 I would go for an EVGA DS Superclocked as it looks very good, before spending money on a card for a core 2 duo that, no matter how good it is, will bottleneck with cards of this profile, I would invest in a card like that or wait and build a new platform later with a sandy bridge for example.

[incrediboy]

@daijiro74:

I can barely see that graphics card to be honest.. it's like I want to but I can't.. and only 200€? Since I'm changing my graphics card I'd like something much better than what I have now.. bottleneck? Man, I think I have a good computer;D... I'm undecided between these graphics card models to be honest.. what do you think:

GIGABYTE GeForce GTX580 474,95€
GIGABYTE GeForce GTX580 GV-N580SO-15I on Acuista.com
Asus MATRIX GTX580 P/2DIS/1536MD5 467,95€
Asus MATRIX GTX580 P/2DIS/1536MD5 90-C1CQU0-W0UAY0BZ on Acuista.com
Zotac GeForce GTX 580 AMP! 455.95€
Zotac GeForce GTX 580 AMP! ZT-50102-10P on Acuista.com

I've always liked to have the best of the best.. and since I'm spending the money I'd like to put something that I know is perfect and there's no chance of regret

you have a good computer... I think you're a bit mistaken. to mount a gtx580 you need at least a decent intel i5 or else the graphics card will be slacking off because your processor won't give more of itself. if you want to put a 580 go ahead, whatever you want, but then don't come here complaining that others get double the performance with the same graphics card

[Nemo]

The topic of "balanced teams" has been widely discussed in this forum, which is useless to have a graphics powerhouse with a low-end or obsolete processor or a hard drive from the last century.

A processor two generations behind is already obsolete for a current "Extreme Gamer" team, any mid/low-end Sandy doubles the processing capacity of a core 2 duo.

You can assemble/spend what you like, the recommendation and the performance it will give you has also been warned, the decision is yours.

Best regards

[daijiro74]

okay.. it's clear to me now.. with my current setup, the evga 560 ti would be more suitable than, for example, any 580.. since it comes with overclocking and the price seems like a great deal.. so would that be the best option? or are there other more powerful options similar to the one techno is suggesting? within the capabilities of my system..

[Tecnho]

As I say, I think the best option being Nvidia is that one and if you change your equipment, buy another one like it when you change it, an SLI of these perform very well.

Look at a performance comparison review of an SLI of these to a 580.

comparative.

Nvidia GeForce GTX 560 Ti SLI Review - X-bit labs

[Jesus_Panella]

The bottlenecks.

Even though your Core 2 Duo E8500 is a good CPU, your future GTX 560 TI or your future GTX 580 if you decide for that, will be quite limited by that CPU. I have a GTX550 TI that is quite inferior to the GTX 560 Ti in a Core 2 Duo E8200 (somewhat slower than your E8500) and it is being slightly limited by the CPU. Imagine what will happen if you put a GTX 580, or even the GTX 560 on your E8500.

A computer, in order to work properly, must be balanced, both the CPU and the graphics and memory and motherboard. It is no use having a powerful graphics card like the current GTX 580, if the CPU is not up to par. Or the other way around. Having an i7 2600K overclocked to 4.5 GHz and a "cheap" GT430.

[Sylver]

Hello

Gentlemen, we are forgetting an important detail, the power supply.

What power supply do you have? In case you decide to set up a 560 SLI or introduce a single one of that range, the power supply might not be enough...

Best regards

[daijiro74]

the team will keep it still so an update of platform now I do not see it viable until within 1 or 2 years as much.. the power supply I bought at the beginning of this year.. a thermaltake 650w… since the previous one melted down after 3 years of life.. a hyper

well the thing about the graphics... buff it's a dilemma..:llorar::llorar: like changing the tires in the car.. but I think with the graphics it's another move:p

[Tecnho]

That power supply perfectly supports the 560, with a sli it would be tight since they consume about 500W under load, but it is a decent power supply, I think a 560ti and a little OC would be quite balanced.

[incrediboy]

@Tecnho:

As I told you, I think the best option, being Nvidia, is that one, and if you change your equipment, buy another one like it when you change it. An SLI of these performs very well.

Check out a performance comparison review of an SLI of these compared to a 580.

comparison.

Nvidia GeForce GTX 560 Ti SLI Review - X-bit labs

what monitor do you have? because if it has any nonsense, it will happen to you like it happened to me, graphics memory consumptions of 1300-1400mb…

[hAyO]

Yes, because that E8500 I suppose will easily do 4Ghz and that really is nothing.

[daijiro74]

to be honest I'm looking at the 560 ti with OC and they look really good.. but I don't know if I should go for a very big 580 and let the CPU and motherboard process what they can and not lack graphics and rather have more.. (even if it does cause a bottleneck but I know I won't lack graphics) because the same thing.. I've been looking at the prices of what a new computer would cost me.. and to be honest I would build the biggest one like I did years ago with my current computer… I want you to tell me what graphics card you would put if you had to choose a 580.. ;D;D;D

I'll put some photos of my computer.. when it had the thermaltake cooling from the first ones that came out many many years ago.. which I changed for a ZALMAN cnps9900 led because I had problems with the water pump that broke and I got a really hot block on the CPU and it leaked and stained my gtx260 xfx graphics card so I managed to get it under warranty and they gave me the gigabyte gtx 260 oc..

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[Tecnho]

Put what you want, you will see in the end, the photo was not necessary.

[daijiro74]

well I finally decided on a 560 ti oc (vitaminadas;D)… from what I read MSI ``they say they are the best´´... like asus gigabyte and the rest... so I don't know.. which is the 560 ti oc BEST OF ALL!..

http://www.pccomponentes.com/gigabyte_geforce_gtx_560_ti_super_oc_v2_1024mb_gddr5.html

by the way I really like this.. by the way does anyone have a comparison of all the 560 ti???

[incrediboy]

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[Sylver]

You are right to choose the 560 Ti OC

It is absurd to build a 580 with capacity all over the place with the idea that "it has more performance", and nooo, it is not like that :nono::nono::nono::nono::nono:
The bottleneck reduces performance, you would be worse off than with a more modest graphics card, simply because the "basic" performance that the 580 can give would be diminished by the lack of processor and you would have problems running games, video, etc. normally.

When they advise you, it is for a reason, and completely stay away from that damn topic of "big horse, whether it walks or not", that is my advice.

Good luck with the change and I hope you have understood the parenthesis.

Regards