[BF3] Battlefield 3

[cobito]

@CNCBCN:

according to the guys from Nvidia you need a 580 (to play at full capacity)

P.D even though according to the link from cobito you need 2 :D:D

P.D 2 to me "only" takes out a thousand points :D:nono::D:nono:

The need for the 580 to play at full capacity is very relative. It depends on how picky you are with FPS. I can play everything at full with my 460 without any problems. And if instead of putting it on "ultra" I put it on "high", I get a sustained rate of 40 fps.

As for the micro, it doesn't seem to be too important.

[Nemo]

@cobito:

The need for the 580 to play at full capacity is very relative. It depends on how picky you are with FPS. I can play everything at full with my 460 without any problems. And if instead of putting it on "ultra" I put it on "high", I get a sustained rate of 40 fps.

As for the micro, it doesn't seem to be too important.

With the Crossfire of HD5770 I'm in the same situation as cobito, in the "Ultra" setting I could play without problems but it runs more smoothly with "high", leaving aside the lag that the servers hit.

The Beta is quite finished although with some flaws as they commented here, in certain areas if you crawl you can slip under the floor textures, sometimes a soldier flies through the map or dead people and weapons move around the map.

Best regards

[Tecnho]

I had to leave the map today because the laser from my gun was pointing at my face XD and I could see everything red, but well, these things are being corrected.

[XRAYBoY]

@cobito:

The need for the 580 to play at full capacity is very relative. It depends on how picky you are with FPS. I can play everything at full with my 460 without any problems. And if instead of putting it on "ultra" I put it on "high", I get a sustained rate of 40 fps.

As for the micro, it doesn't seem to be too important.

Coñ0, well that's a 60€ difference... interesting detail... I suppose that for 1280x1024 it's even easier than for your resolution or it will be similar, right?
If there isn't much difference aesthetically between ultra and high, maybe I'll save that for when I change the whole team and buy a more decent PCIE 3.0 (or 4.0).
After all, this team has 2 more evening news programs and I prefer not to spend too much (because in the end the game comes out expensive...)

[Tecnho]

I think that with a 460 and at that resolution you say Xrayboy you are more than served and more so if for the future you want to change everything, as you rightly say, damage it as little as possible, besides you have BF for a while and when you change your equipment and upload it to custom it will be like a new game XD.

[cobito]

@XRAYBoY:

Coñ0, pues eso son 60€ de diferencia…interesante detalle... Supongo que para 1280x1024 sea incluso más fácil que para tu resolución o andará parecido, no?
Si no hay mucha diferencia estéticamente entre ultra y high, quizás me compense ahorrarme eso para cuando cambie todo el equipo y comprar una PCIE 3.0 (ó 4.0) más decente.
A fin de cuentas, a este equipo le quedan 2 telediarios y prefiero no gastar demasiado (que al final me sale cariilo el juego...)

Hombre, todavía no he jugado lo suficiente como para notar diferencia entre los dos niveles de detalle. Unos posts más arriba puse un sitio donde ponen la media de fps con distintas gráficas. Si el PC lo vas a jubilar pronto (y con él la gráfica), no creo que te merezcan la pena esos 60€ de más. También depende de lo delicado que seas con los FPS.

[CNCBCN]

man, according to tables it is more cost-effective to get an ATI 6850 "they are only" 160 euros a gtx 560 is at 184 euros this is according to the table for the "batel" for the others …. according to CPU memos and so on......

[Bm4n]

@CNCBCN:

hombre, según tablas sale mas a cuenta una ATI 6850 "solo son " 160 pavos una gtx 560 esta en 184 euracos esto es segun tabla para el" batel" para los demás …. según CPU memos y demás......

The 560 is available for 163€, and the TI for 195€. Compared to its competitors 6870 and 6950, respectively, the prices are similar. So, to each their own.

[CNCBCN]

let's see Bm4n if I learn to explain myself or you learn to read between the lines :D:D

tables: PassMark Software - Video Card Benchmarks - High End Video Cards
P.D I suppose you have read all the posts, right? well this was in one "tables" :D:D
that you, me or someone else look at other stores and it's more expensive or cheaper is one thing but what is written in "that" table is another and it is the speed/price reference that I was referring to

[Bm4n]

@CNCBCN:

vamos haber Bm4n si o yo aprendo a explicarme tu a leer entre lineas :D:D

tablas : PassMark Software - Video Card Benchmarks - High End Video Cards
P.D supongo que te has leído todos los post ¿no? pues esto estaba en uno "tablas" :D:D
que tu yo u otro miremos en otras tiendas y sea mas caro o mas barato es una cosa pero lo que pone en "esa" tabla es otra y es la referencia de velocidad/precio a la que yo me refería

Vamos a ver si yo aprendo a leer todos los posts y tu a escribir :risitas:

Cobito puso una comparativa de rendimiento en el BF3, que es de lo que hablamos, y yo hablo particularmente del BF3, basándome en esos datos y en el precio al que salen ahora las gráficas. Más realista no se puede ser.

Esa tabla que dices está muy bien pero se basa en PassMark y los precios en dolares de las gráficas, dudo que actualizado, porque los precios varían cada semana y en cada juego/bench las gráficas tienen rendimientos diferentes. Aparte que las nVidia tienen el Physx.

[CNCBCN]

@Bm4n:

Let's see if I learn to read all the posts and you learn to write :risitas:

Cobito put a performance comparison on BF3, which is what we're talking about, and I'm talking particularly about BF3, based on that data and the price at which graphics cards are now coming out. You can't be more realistic.

That table you're talking about is very good but it's based on PassMark and the prices in dollars for the graphics cards, I doubt it's up to date, because prices vary every week and in each game/bench the graphics cards have different performances. Besides, the nVidia ones have Physx.

look at post 155 or better yet read it and then read mine "in full" and then draw conclusions

[Tecnho]

That's enough ehhhhh XD, by the way I'll have to create a thread for the game because this one is a bit outdated by title and all, that way Fassou won't get mad because it's not organized XP

[Bm4n]

@CNCBCN:

look at post 155 or better yet read my post "in full" and then draw conclusions

Post 155, quote this:

And you talk about a 6850, which I don't know where it appears?, and then a table that doesn't make sense. Let me get this straight, it shows higher performance for the 6850 than the 6870. And it's based on a little-known benchmark and on the prices of newegg.com… And if you're going to buy based on those tables of the 10 commandments we're going to be fine

What I have said, exclusively, is that for those who want to upgrade to play BF3 for price/performance it would be worth it to buy ATI (6870 -160€, 6950 - 200€) or nVidia (560 - 160€, 560TI -200€), although as you can see the ATI are just superior. And I don't object to buying a 6850 for 160€…

[CNCBCN]

vale mea culpa. I put the wrong post number nº 174, I continue with the mea culpa I did not notice that the prices are in dollars ( which is cheaper ) if I have a gtx 280 that gives ( always according to that table ) 1961 points and I think about updating the graphics ( not just for the batellfied, there are more games and more programs ) the hd 6850 gives 2844 points 883 more than mine and would cost at the exchange 119.46 ( reasonable ) certainly a 560 ti gives 2972 1011 points more than gtx and costs 164.27 ( which is also pretty good ) but it all depends on the money each one has because otherwise a 6950 gives 3250 but I think it's wrong if I look at the batel table

[XRAYBoY]

@Bm4n:

The 560 is available for 163€, and the TI for 195€. Compared to its competitors 6870 and 6950, respectively, the prices are similar. So, to each their own.

Yep, I think I'll go down the middle road and get the 560 OC (the cooler appeals to me more than in other models, it seems more effective and quieter)
I've also checked signatures in other forums and it seems there is confirmation that my power supply will be able to power it without problems.

Do you use Rivatuner in W7?? I've tried using the Hardware_Perfomance from the Nvidia package and it doesn't seem to be able to regulate the fans…

[CNCBCN]

Bm4n I really appreciate the private messages (you are right) but ….. it is sad that this is a forum and if I SAY NONSENSE OR CRAP the others do not have the right to that information (corrected). I believe that everyone (the network) uses or can use this forum to search for information and if I GIVE WRONG DATA it is only right that they correct it or disagree with my opinions because otherwise someone may always consider that my opinions (only corrected in private) are valid
anyway I am very happy that in this forum there is always capable people (and with enough knowledge) to tell the truth and have the kindness to do it in private but.... I believe that for the good of all it is not necessary.
P.D the information is for everyone and that I at some point can put my FOOT IN MY MOUTH does not mean that the others cannot know it in order not to make the same mistake :verguen:

thanks Bm4n

[Nemo]

I also think that within the 560 TI is the one with the best cooling option and you won't have a problem with the power supply, if it suits you my power supply supports 3 disks and the croosfire without any problems.

Best regards

[Nemo]

@CNCBCN:

Bm4n I really appreciate the private messages (you're right) but ….. it's sad that this is a forum AND IF I SAY NONSENSE OR CRAP the others don't have the right to that information (corrected). I think that everyone (the network) uses or can use this forum to search for information and if I GIVE WRONG DATA it's only right that they correct it or disagree with my opinions because otherwise someone might always consider that my opinions (only corrected in private) are valid
anyway I'm very happy that in this forum there is always people capable (and with enough knowledge) to tell the truth and have the kindness to do it in private but.... I think that for the good of everyone it's not necessary.
P.D the information is for everyone and that I at some point can put my FOOT IN MY MOUTH doesn't mean that the others can't know it in order not to make the same mistake :verguen:

thanks Bm4n

CNCBCN, both you and Bm4n have done the right thing in this situation. Bm4n very prudently alerted you in private about your mistake and you have corrected it publicly.
You have reminded me why I love this forum, because here respect for the member is imposed and it is demonstrated that you can talk about anything politely even if you don't always agree with your partner's opinion.
In other forums this would have resulted in a bloody and absurd dispute that contributes nothing.
You have both demonstrated that you are both GENTLEMEN. Thank you.

Best regards

[Tecnho]

Well, apart from the disputes, which I like to watch because they entertain me for a while, who else has tried the BETA and how is it with their respective equipment? I know there's someone out there with an 580 and I'd like to see their results with everything maxed out.

[Bm4n]

@XRAYBoY the performance of the 560Ti is between the 6870 and the 6950, the OC almost like the 6950, I am happy with the Giga 560TI OC good heatsink and 900/4000 in speed vs the 800/5000 of a 6950 (I think I remember) it's not bad, especially I wanted to test physx. Any of the two would be a good buy. And in consumption they are 170-190W according to the OC, I with a 700W could mount an SLI.

@CNCBCN for that we are

I while I do not get the card I am testing the beta on the PS3.