Pc for audio editing/home recording

[adriamarva]

As for the luxury graphics, I don't really understand this card, the thing is that I'll put Windows 7 inside the virtual box on the Mac, or how do you see this, that's why I said I need a 1 terabyte, besides the Logic sessions take up many gigabytes (3, 4... etc)

[nikera]

better that you listen more to Bm4n than to me, he is the veteran
but ram memory I would recommend that you get 8gb or more

[adriamarva]

I fully trust Bm4n, the only thing I think is that 64 gigas is not very little? no matter how fast it is (I've already watched some videos and wow!).

And the other question, do I install Windows 7 and inside the virtual box with the Lion of Mac or do I mount two independent OS?

[Bm4n]

@adriamarva clear the SSD is only for the OS. The ideal is that you make a hackintosh and with 64GB you will arrive and I say this because with the macbook air I have a disk of 64GB and I am using 20GB. If you finally want to virtualize it you will need more space, perhaps about 30GB for the OS (you would be better off with an XP 64bit so that it consumes less) and the other 30GB for the sessions in which you are working, if you see it short the one of 128GB is at 170€. Obviously in any way you will always need another disk for storage if you have any at home (even if it is one of those 120GB SATA) it will serve you.

@nikera the Logic Pro has a minimum requirement of 2GB, recommended 4GB. Initially with 8GB it will have more than enough and you will be able to expand it when you want. I already see that you like things exaggerated (24GB of RAM, 1200W power supply) but it is good to know what you need so as not to waste especially in what is expandable.

[adriamarva]

Okay, I have a 250g, sata drive, the thing is I don't know how to set up the hackintosh it's a pain! jajaja:rollani:

I managed to install leopard with the virtual but it was a test since my current computer doesn't support it at all! jaja

[Bm4n]

There are forum members here who have it set up and can surely help you, I think it's not that difficult either, ask before buying the components so that nothing is incompatible. I can't tell you about OSX, I have it on the macbook.

[adriamarva]

I have created a new topic in the Mac section. More than thanks to all!

[Bm4n]

No hay de que, por cierto creo que será mejor que pienses en el SSD de 128GB "Minimum 6GB of disk space. (19GB of optional content available via in-app download)." (Apple - Logic Pro 9 - Technical Specifications) casi se me sale el café por la nariz la madre :risitas:

[adriamarva]

hahaha! you see, it's that with the groups I have my colleagues have logic on their Macs and use that… damn!

[adriamarva]

Any hackintoshero?

[Obione]

Hi adriamarva, if you're going to use heavy libraries, it would be a good idea to put the most demanding ones on an SSD, but when using them, you should check how many GB's they occupy. In any case, what will really move tracks and plugg's is a good processor. I would put this together:

Cooler Master Silencio 450 RC-450-KKN1 Case/Tower
Intel Core i7 2700K 3.5Ghz Tray Socket 1155 CM8062301124100
ASRock Z68 Pro3 Gen3 90-MXGJZ0-A0UAYZ Motherboard
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB SATA3 MAESTRO ST31000524AS Hard Drive
Kingston HyperX Blu DDR3 1600 PC3-12800 8GB 2x4GB CL9 KHX1600C9D3B1K2/8GX DDR3 Memory

You can always add an SSD later.

Editing: I hadn't read about the hackintosh, a colleague built one with a Gigabyte. If you want to work with Logic, there's no other option, but it won't perform better than Windows 7. I saw a comparison with Dual Xeon and it did pull more, but with an i7 920, Windows 7 performed better. I read that Mac doesn't get much out of virtual cores, maybe that's why.

[adriamarva]

I'm looking for info through the great god Google, but everyone says something different... and in other forums... a fooolllllon

[Obione]

The performance is similar, the issue is the System and the sequencer with which you work comfortably. If you are a Mac user, go with Hacki; if you are a Logic user, you have no choice but to go to Sistema Mac; and if you don't care, go for PC and forget about the worries of finding compatible hardware for Hacki. You take your Reaper, Cubase, Pro Tools or whatever you work with and start racking up miles with Windows 7 64 bits.

[adriamarva]

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El problema que con los grupos que tengo todos utilizan Logic, i es muy muy cómodo, actualmente tengo Cubase pero no se acerca de ni de cerca.

Pero si pongo el Logic dentro del Mac que esta en el virtual box me irá bien con un buen ordenador?

gracias

[Obione]

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Haber empezado por ahí jejeje. Pues mira, lo mejor es que indagues en foros especializados y cuando des con una placa compatible con hacky (con chipset P67 o Z68 para darle caña a un versión K) te lances a por ella para tirar con Logic. Si vas a por un 2500K te da para un SSD de 64GB, mientras no tires mucho de librerías (si vas a hacer mezcla y master no creo que lo necesites) tendrás suficiente para SO. No obstante opino que mejor ir a por un 2600 o un 2700K que al fin y al cabo es lo que te va a permitir no cortarte con reverbs y EQs de varias bandas, si te lías a meter plugg's pesados agradecerás más micro que disco, para librerías pesadas sí que estaría bien un SSD, lo malo es que las hay de muchos GB y 128GB son 180€.

[adriamarva]

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Version K? eing ? perdón pero no pillo mucho de lo que me dices, lo otro si, quieres decri una placa en la cual me vaia bien para poner el Hackintosh?

[Obione]

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@adriamarva:

…quieres decri una placa en la cual me vaia bien para poner el Hackintosh?

Eso es.

Los modelos K permiten subir de vueltas el procesador, no es complicado y ganarás algo de rendimiento por un poco más. Para esto la placa debe tener el chipset P67 o Z68. El compañero de otro foro que tiene la gigabyte en el hacki le ha rascadao 4GHz y pico frente a los 3,3 de serie, 3,4 con turbo con carga en 4 cores.

[adriamarva]

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Carai, entonces entiendo que ira mejor tener el hackintosh antes que meter el mac dentro del virtual box.

Que placa pillo?

[Bm4n]

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@Obione olvidas que no es un overclocker y tiene un presupuesto de 600€ gastar la mitad en un 2700 no sería muy lógico aparte de que sería tirar el dinero frente al 2600 que es prácticamente idéntico. Y esa placa AsRock es similar a la MSI, pero costando lo mismo prefería la MSI que tienen doble PCIE 16X.

La diferencia entre el i5 y el 2600 aparte de 100€ es 0,4GHz más y el hyperthreading, hablamos de aproximadamente un 30% más de rendimiento y un 60% más de precio. Pero ambos son procesadores de ultima generación, 4 núcleos, más de 3GHz… cualquiera te irá perfecto y según tu presupuesto escoge, pero el SSD lo notarás mucho más. (No invento los datos: tonymacx86 Forum • View topic - Logic Pro 9 Benchmarks)

Y como dije ejecutar OSX sin estar virtualizado dentro de otro SO te hará ganar más rendimiento, sino lógicamente el ordenador tiene que estar ejecutando ambos sistemas a la vez.

[adriamarva]

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Lio lio! jajaja, Msi? Asrock? lo del SSD seguro que vale la pena, he mirado por youtube i flipa