New PC proposal

[Sylver]

Good morning

To be honest, it's very tight for €500... I've proposed an idea for a configuration, but I haven't even included a hard drive because it already exceeds 500 in length, and the components tend to be cheap:
Custom budget. PcComponentes.com

You can tell him to make the most of the hard drive he has, or to save and stretch the budget. Another platform would be great but the price would skyrocket as well, and with the budget so tight it's complicated.

Best regards

[Kornex]

@Sylver:

Good morning

Honestly, it's very tight for 500€… I've proposed an idea of configuration to you, but I haven't even put a hard drive because it already exceeds 500€ in length, and the components tend to be cheap:
Custom budget. PcComponentes.com

You can tell him to make the most of the hard drive he has, or to save and stretch the budget. Another platform would be great but it would also go up in price, and with the budget so tight it's complicated.

Best regards

Yes, I know it's a bit-quite tight, but the guy doesn't want to spend that much money on his stuff. I've notified him through a message about the budget. Throughout the week we'll keep an eye on what's out there.
Thanks for your help! ;D

[Sylver]

@Kornex:

Si, ya se que es un poco-bastante ajustado, pero el chico no quiere gastarse tanto dinero en sus cosas. Le he notificado mediante un mensaje el presupuesto. A lo largo de la semana echaremos mas ojo a lo que haya por ahi.
Gracias por tu colaboracion! ;D

Hombre, para una actualización de placa+micro+memoria estaría perfecto, pero para montar un equipo completo por ese precio hay que escatimar por algún lado.
No hay de que, ya nos cuentas como va el asunto.

Saludos

[Obione]

I would get this:

Custom budget. PcComponentes.com

With assembly and shipping, it's 500 euros. If he assembles it himself and has a hard drive, it's enough for the 6870, and if he wants everything (hard drive + assembly + rewriter), we messed it up xD

Editing: Now that I think about it, the iCafe needs single-sided modules to be able to mount the 4, better to get the P67 Pro for 8€ more or go directly to 2x4GB of RAM with the iCafe, which will be cheaper in the long run if you make the most of 4GB of RAM. The P67 would have the potential to mount a x4 Ivy Bridge K to give it some power. Another option is to confuse the people at pccomponentes to see if any bargain memory kit is single-sided.

[Bm4n]

Getting there would be, in the graph it would be a bit short but good, with a:
Core i5 i3 + Asrock P67 Pro3 B3 + 2x2GB
Ati 6870
Seagate 1TB
Coolermaster 370
Corsair CX500

[Obione]

That's 500 bucks without a disk, no matter how you set it up it's going to be 635. Things are tight <:(

[Sylver]

@Obione:

That's 500 bucks without a disk, no matter how you set it up, it's going to be 635. Things are tight <:(

+1

He's going to have to do without a disk or stretch the budget, he has no other option.
The 6870 would be great for him, although he'll have to skimp a bit on the micro, everything is counterproductive xD

[Bm4n]

If I messed up the i5 thing but it doesn't matter, I was looking at an i3, which at a similar price would be the FX-4100 although I was happy with the i3 that day as it played games very well.

42747 Intel Core I3 2100 3.1Ghz Box Socket 1155 101 101
42988 ASRock P67 Pro3 B3 88 88
40021 Kingston HyperX Blu DDR3 1600 PC3-12800 4GB 2x2GB CL9 26 26
43962 Sapphire Radeon HD 6870 1GB GDDR5 138 138
48621 Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 1TB SATA3 91 91
40213 Cooler Master Elite 370 Negro 39 39
44506 Corsair CX500 V2 500W Builder Series 57 57
***** Total ***** 7 540

How good, I see I'm putting almost 100€ between the case and power supply, there obviously you can cut it to put the i5 and in the motherboard as well, but it's not very recommended. Even in the CPU you can cut it, that is a P67 with a Dual Core you can get from 130€, to put a better graphics card but I think it wouldn't be very recommended either.

The budget is very good for the price, well balanced and of quality, nothing junk. That for BF3 it might be a bit short but of course it's a game that to play it in ultra you need from 800€ (being something minimally balanced).

[Sylver]

@Bm4n:

If I messed up the i5 part but it doesn't matter, I was looking at an i3, which at a similar price would be the FX-4100 although I was happy with the i3 on its day as it played games very well.

42747 Intel Core I3 2100 3.1Ghz Box Socket 1155 101 101
42988 ASRock P67 Pro3 B3 88 88
40021 Kingston HyperX Blu DDR3 1600 PC3-12800 4GB 2x2GB CL9 26 26
43962 Sapphire Radeon HD 6870 1GB GDDR5 138 138
48621 Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 1TB SATA3 91 91
40213 Cooler Master Elite 370 Negro 39 39
44506 Corsair CX500 V2 500W Builder Series 57 57
***** Total ***** 7 540

I also considered the i3 option, but I thought it would be a bit short, as he says he intends to play several modern games, including BF3 and if he messes up the system and loads it with processes (predictable) it will get a bit choked. Obviously if he follows that trend, an i5 will also get choked, but in any case he will get more out of a 6870 than the i3, even if it's a 2300. However, an i3 2100 with the 6850 would also be a good option, and that way he could put in the rest of the components without any problem.

Regards

[Bm4n]

No no there is no problem, 2 cores 4 threads at 3.1GHz is more than enough for any game. I had the i3 530 with the 4870 and it was luxurious, I noticed little difference when I changed to the i5 2500K being of a new generation, I'll even tell you more, I spent months when it broke playing with only 1 core activated, damn Pedrín, and it played perfectly with about 10-20fps less XD but I played COD MW2 and similar games without any problem.

So nothing, the i3 with a 6870 would be perfect, which can spend 60€ more than the i5, but I wouldn't take it away from other things and less from the graphics card since BF3 is what needs it the most.

PD. So suddenly comparing the wprime of the i3 2100 with that of the i5 2300 there is a 33% difference in performance... that is, it's not going to solve its life either.

[Obione]

I thought the same as Silver, it's just that BF3 is not nonsense :ugly:

Another option is to get a P67X-UD3 and put another 6850 in it later. The i3 has the advantage of being able to change to an Iby x4 (it doesn't hurt to change a micro for 100 bucks but 150 does) but I would almost get a quad and change the graphics or set up Cross.

[Bm4n]

Edit. I thought you said the card for the ivy, for the cross I wouldn't spend, I would spend on a 2GB graphics card.

It would be the right thing, regardless of the processor, because it is clear that the 2GB ones perform better in these demanding games, but it costs more and a card for crossfire also, and I wouldn't skimp on the processor to a 2 core 2 thread one and an H61 motherboard for that.

[Sylver]

Yes, the best option is to upgrade the graphics without cutting corners on the CPU. If you mount an i5 with a 2Gb graphics card, you can always borrow memory (or reuse it if you already have DDR3), which also saves you a hard drive and uses the built-in graphics, so by cutting corners here and there, you'd end up with a pretty decent system at its core. The idea is a good CPU+graphics card pairing, which is the main thing for gaming, although honestly, I think you'll end up stretching your budget or waiting a while while you save up, the idea of building half-way systems isn't very widespread

Best regards

[Obione]

The 2GB of memory will come in handy but it's more than 200€ that he can't spend right now given the budget. If we're going to ask for something, having 8GB of RAM would be great too. It's just that BF3 asks for everything... You have to scrape from somewhere.

Let him save a little :troll:

[Kornex]

I have shown him this forum topic and he has commented that, according to your opinions, it is worth waiting a little longer, for the sake of adding more quality and better products, even though getting that money will cost him quite a bit.

[Sylver]

Well yes, it will be better for him in the long run, because assembling it in installments is a pain and besides, as time goes by, each platform should go down in price according to the new releases.
So, save money and don't despair, there will still be BF3 players online for a long time :troll:

Regards

[Bm4n]

If you wait, you will surely change the configuration to an Ivy, Z77 and 7850. With the one I gave you, if you change the i3 to the i5, which would cost 600€, you would have something pretty interesting left.

Tell your friend to register and say thank you, and that way we can give him the invoice as well ;D