Linux Mint 13 Maya. The ideal for a Netbook

[Nemo]

@Cobito. I recommend you try it. You may like or dislike its appearance, but its good performance and stability are undeniable.

@Yorus. This one offers almost a better user experience with the Mate desktop, than with LXDE. The Cinnamon environment is a bit more special with certain graphics. I have used Mate and I have no doubt in recommending it.

@Silver. Added section of minimum requirements to the main post. If you meet them, it is undoubtedly a very good option for those who do not have much experience with Linux or are terrified of having to face a terminal.

Best regards.

[Sylver]

Perfect, thank you very much Nemo
I doubt I can install it on a P-II, so it will have to be on the next P-IV that I restore

Best regards

[amd125]

Very cool post. Soon I might get an old laptop donated to me. Let's see if it works ¬¬ and I can put something like this on it :cry:

[cobito]

I am sure that Mint can run well on PCs with 256 mb ram. It should be noted that the modules that are loaded for a P2 consume much less memory than those loaded for a modern PC. In fact, I have seen systems with KDE 4 consuming less than that amount.

[Sylver]

Do you believe it cobito? I might launch myself on a suicide mission with a P-II in about a week or so and I'll tell you if it has exploded :ugly:

[cobito]

@Sylver:

Do you believe it cobito? I might launch myself on a suicide mission with a P-II in about a week or so and I'll tell you if it has exploded :ugly:

You will have a waiting time longer than you are used to, but more due to lack of processor than RAM. The PC should run acceptably well. Although you should forget about things like watching videos from Youtube, having several tabs open and so on. In general, a p2 has become obsolete, but because of the speed of the micro more than lack of resources.

A couple of years ago I installed mandriva 2010 KDE 4 on a Celeron 700 (with such a bad chipset that it went worse than a P2 at 400 MHz) with 256 mb of ram and it was a completely functional PC.

Maybe I will also launch myself this summer to do some tests. I am itching to see to what extent the requirements of Linux are due to a kernel and window managers that have become monstrous or is a "trap" of hardware manufacturers who develop morbid drivers now that we live in times when hardware resources are abundant everywhere.

[Nemo]

All in all, what have you got to lose, 40 minutes while it installs and updates? I think it's worth it.
I think that when the minimum requirements for a system are set, they are set to work with all the features and a minimum of fluidity. To the extent that you don't reach it, it will lose performance, but even if it goes slower, it will work.

Best regards.

[Sylver]

The man by force has to go much worse than my P-III Coppermine at 900Mhz, which defended itself with 300 and some RAM
Nevertheless, I will try to lower the system consumption to the maximum and to upgrade all that I can the hardware to achieve an approximation of the balance on both sides.

[Yorus]

@cobito:

You will have a waiting time longer than you are used to, but more due to lack of processor than RAM.

I am used to seeing many people who, when saying that something consumes few resources, only look at the RAM, it was about time someone commented on the micros ;D. In both my Athlon XP and the C7, the RAM is not a problem (1Gb in both), the problem is caused by the micros themselves and the graphics, but especially the former.

[cobito]

@Yorus:

I'm used to seeing many people who, when saying that something consumes few resources, only look at the RAM, it was about time someone commented on the CPUs ;D. In both my Athlon XP and the C7, the RAM is not a problem (1Gb in both), the problem is caused by the CPUs themselves and the graphics, but especially the former.

Those of us who are old dogs and still have machines from when we were young in service, suffer from the same thing. And, although it pains me to say it, Linux (along with the X server) is guilty of being a CPU hog above other systems like Windows XP.

But it's also true that the fault does not lie with the Kernel but with the graphics servers and desktop environments, no matter how light they may be (or are considered). Because as you rightly said, nowadays light means low RAM consumption.

Puff what a desire I'm getting to dust off a 386, a 486, a Pentium, and a Pentium 2 to see how the Kernel adapts.

[Nemo]

Get out the rag kid, get out. ;D let's see how those old men fight ;D

Best regards

[Yorus]

That would indeed be quite an optimization job.

[cobito]

@Nemo:

Get out the rag little one, get it out. ;D let's see how those old-timers fight ;D

Best regards

Let's see how summer turns out…

@Yorus:

That would indeed be quite an optimization job.

When Linus programmed the kernel, he did it on a 386 and optimized it to run on this micro. In theory, the kernel evaluates the needs of the system and, depending on the hardware, activates or deactivates the necessary modules, with the exception of a few basic ones that will start anyway. If the ancestral code of Linus is still in the current kernel, if I choose a precompiled distro for i386 (like Debian) and if I disable all unnecessary modules, I see no reason why it shouldn't work on a 386. Ummm…

But well, this topic was about Mint. Let's not hijack it.

[Yorus]

Today I installed it on my laptop, specifically the one that uses 64-bit Mate and…

... god!, finally!, a normal desktop like Ubuntu 10.04! (for me the best Ubuntu until they messed with Unitys & Co.

Nemo, as in your case it has been a install and done, picking up the drivers for my graphics (an HD7470m) and with everything needed for the laptop there at hand and working (temperatures, power plans, battery status...). Seriously, the latest distributions made me feel uncomfortable, although I was more or less getting the hang of Fedora 16 with Gnome Shell, but having this fork of Gnome 2 (not "classic" modes as those of Ubuntu) and my beloved Apt... ains!, I have no words ;D

[Nemo]

I am very happy. It seems that I have not been the only one, who has had tears in his eyes, when rediscovering the pleasure of everything working as it should and at the first try. :fuckyea:

Congratulations!!! ;D

Best regards.

[Sylver]

Now it's my turn for the high-risk experiment... :ugly:
Downloading Linux Mint 13 Maya MATE 32 bits and while reactivating the old P-II at 333Mhz with 256Mb of RAM... This promises companions

Saludos!

[Sylver]

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Pues nada, fracaso absoluto… :nono: Ayer me tiré toda la noche espectante, acompañando la maniobra de carga del live CD, pero no consiguió cargar el escritorio completo en ningún momento. Sólo pude aproximarme con el modo compatibilidad del live CD, pero en ningún caso pude siquiera acceder a la opción de instalarlo... Ya sabemos que en un P-II a 333Mhz y con 256 de RAM no es capaz de correr Linux Mint 13.

Saludos

[cobito]

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@Sylver:

Pues nada, fracaso absoluto… :nono: Ayer me tiré toda la noche espectante, acompañando la maniobra de carga del live CD, pero no consiguió cargar el escritorio completo en ningún momento. Sólo pude aproximarme con el modo compatibilidad del live CD, pero en ningún caso pude siquiera acceder a la opción de instalarlo... Ya sabemos que en un P-II a 333Mhz y con 256 de RAM no es capaz de correr Linux Mint 13.

Saludos

¿Mint no tiene un CD cd instalación? Porque es normal que no pueda ejecutar un live-cd ya que este reserva una parte de ram como almacenamiento con lo que te quedas sin casi nada para el sistema con unos recursos tan ajustados.

En cambio si se pudiera instalar desde un instalador (sin arrancar el sistema), debería funcionar.

[XaviJS]

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Buenas!

He estado probando la versión de Cinnamon de 32bit y ya me estoy descargando la Mate… De hecho estoy ahora mismo en la version de cinnamon pero con el escritorio Gnome Classic, ya que desde que he instalado los controladores de nvidia (desde el mismo apt-get) me hace el tonto el escritorio...

Además, hay ventanas que misteriosamente les desaparece la parte superior y no puedes cerrarlas ni minimizarlas (y tengo que reiniciar cinnamon, que trae una opción para hacerlo... buen detalle).

Bajando la versión MATE que es lo que mas se parece a lo que siempre he usado y a lo que seguro que no me defrauda Mint; que dejó el listón bien alto en versiones anteriores y espero que no la cague en esta.

Saludos!

[Yorus]

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Sin duda Mate es el escritorio perfecto si te gusta Gnome 2. A mi me ha empezado a hacer cosas raras el Fedora del PC de sobremesa (ha petado gnome shell) y he instalado tambien Mint 13 Mate.