I need your help to complete this PC

[Franziskaner]

hello.
well yes, no matter what the micro is, it has to be intel to be exact here you have the complete list of supported micros.
about the power supply ….. that it is for a friend is a joke ¿no? I think you really dislike him and that you hate him to death and that you want his PC to burn like the very fires of Lucifer's house in summer.
something like this with little 80 plus active PFC and so on.
graphics …. one of these 7770 would be half decent ( below it's not worth looking at anything, above …. it depends on the money you have ;D )
about the micro I suppose you should look for a second hand quad core here you have a list of micros if you look for something more almost better ( to avoid confusion follow the list of the previous link " list of CPUs supported by your motherboard" )
regards

[alvaro8800]

Hello,
First of all, thank you for the answers you have given me so far.

And I ask you directly, the motherboard, would you throw it away from the beginning right? So that I can have better components so that the computer can last a couple of years.

Regarding the very cheap power supply, it was precisely the price that guided me, if it were up to me, I would get something similar to the one I have, a TACENS RADIX III 720 SMART MODULAR, the latter being important because if not, so much cable is a problem of what do I do with this son of…, that I do not need and it gets in the way. But the thing is that he does not want to spend money, and save everything for the micro and the graphics.

For graphics, apart from the ati, you recommend an Asus GeForce GTX 550 Ti 1GB GDDR5, (I think it is the equivalent of the HD 7770 right)???

I propose a new way to put it together. And buying it in parts, that is, the first time would go Motherboard, micro for example. And in the next one Power Supply and T. Graphics.
If so, how would you do it?

[Sylver]

Hello

I see well that last approach you give it.
First buy motherboard and micro over the 200€ (for example, a cheap motherboard and an i3 processor, would be a good combination) and later change to a good graphic, although introducing a quality power supply is essential, the sooner the better.

Greetings

[Franziskaner]

I personally, as the issue is gaming, I would do it just the opposite, first graphics and power supply, if I were to do it, the second-hand graphics and a little later the good micro board
regards
P.D in nvidia below a 560TI II I personally wouldn't buy anything

[alvaro8800]

Hello,
what I am going to do is recommend that you do it like me. I went every year or 6 months buying myself a series of components.

As a power supply I will leave the one you have if you do not need more or I will leave you one that I think has a little more power, so in this sense for the moment, finished.

Let us now focus on the meat, you need for games, good graphics and good micro.
If we consider that it can handle with its motherboard: ASUS P5G41T-M LX; would it take intel socket 775 by the nose? I have been looking and I have not found. I imagine that second-hand there will be a lot but I do not dominate the market.
In graphics, I had thought of an HD 7770, I know that it would not have a problem, but being so powerful, it would make a bottleneck with the micro (the one that is chosen), due to the limitations of its motherboard. Not????
Or is it that I live with the idea that your board is dead? :wall: If so, please tell me.

Thank you very much and goodbye

[amd125]

It might be a good option to buy an AMD platform that performs decently. AMD has competent processors in the mid and low range, and I don't think your friend with the current equipment would be a demanding GAMER, so the idea could be to change platforms. Your friend's processor is very bad, a Dual Core but very bad.

Another option is to buy a decent graphics card first, and a power supply spending about 200€, and... look for a cheap processor like the E2180 second-hand, which can be found for 20-25€. Look on Ebay for example.

The only problem is that I've looked at the motherboard and I think it's not very good for overclocking. I think it allows, maybe I'm wrong, to do an OC of a maximum of 20%. That's little for some processors. The E2180 goes to 2000 but easily goes up to 3000, so you should look for a processor with a higher native speed. If you look at the Bios you'll be able to see if you can modify the FSB or not.

Regards.

[Franziskaner]

Whatever you mount of graphics will most likely cause a bottleneck, but it's the only option, or you change the graphics and source now or you change the micro and memos card and whatever you do it will be unbalanced until you have everything. As for the 7770 it's not a beast of a graphics card (to be exact it's the low-mid range of ATI, comparable to an old GTX280, only that the gtx 280 was high-end) but to play it's the minimum I would buy, as I told you before from there up what the economy allows you, from there down nothing.
Second hand you can look on the forums or on EBay for a 5870 you can get it for 120/150 with warranty and that is a piece of a graphics card, but you will need a 500/600 watt power supply so because the equipment is for playing I would start with power supply and graphics and in a few months then the micro memos card.
Regards

[Kernel1.0]

Well, looking at the requirements for The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim, which is what you want to play, it's almost better to get the motherboard and micro first, and then the power supply and graphics. The memory as it is, if when you have everything you want to buy another module for the dual channel then go ahead.

• OS: Windows XP / Vista / 7
• CPU: Dual Core 2GHz
• RAM: 2GB
• Graphics: Compatible with DirectX9 / 512MB RAM

Recommended requirements:

• OS: Windows XP / 7
• CPU: Quad Core Intel / AMD
• RAM: 4GB
• HDD: 6GB
• Sound card: Compatible with DirectX
• Graphics: Compatible with DirectX9 with 1GB of RAM. GTX 260 / Radeon 4890

[Sylver]

+1 to Mr. Kernel, he is more interested in renovating the foundations and then adding things little by little.

[alvaro8800]

Hello,
I already feel so much change of direction but I have been struggling to get a budget and change its motherboard.

The budget would be 400-450 euros, having the idea that this computer will be for games.

A requirement to be met is that the motherboard must be able to support the following RAM: Kingston KVR1333D3N9/4G 4GB PC3-10600 CL9 240-PIN DIMM (I am indifferent if it is from another brand but compatible with the one it already has).

Another of the things that should not be included is a power supply, as we already have one.

Best regards, I look forward to your response

[ferelxyx]

ASRock B75 Pro3 - 74 euros
Intel Core i3-3220 3.3 Ghz Box - 117 euros
Kingston ValueRAM 4GB DDR3 1333 PC3-10600 CL9 - 19 euros
Sapphire Radeon HD 7770 1GB GDDR5 - 116 euros
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB SATA3 - 60 euros
LG GH24NS90 DVD Burner 24X Black OEM - 18 euros
Nox Coolbay VX USB 3.0 Classic Edition - 52 euros

son 456 euros en total

saludos

[alvaro8800]

I had forgotten to tell you something else, a thousand apologies:wall:, Recorder/reader and hard drive. With that release of money, what other components can be put in place that are better than the one you give me. Personally, I don't like the i5, being something so cheap on a budget, I prefer a micro amd that with tight budgets yields more, right? Best regards ferelxyx and thank you very much

[Franziskaner]

the source you have won't be the standard one, right? the generic one of 300w
regards

[Franziskaner]

@alvaro8800:

I had forgotten to tell you something else, a thousand apologies:wall:, Recorder/reader and hard drive.

With that release of money, what other components can be put instead of the one you give me. Personally, I don't like the i5, being something so cheap in addition, I prefer an amd micro that with tight budgets perform better, right?

Best regards ferelxyx and many thanks

read this here

regards

[alvaro8800]

it is a 400w Enermax, but from what I see, I'll have to get a 500 one, right?

[alvaro8800]

Ok, 4GB RAM
Ok, 1GB ati HD7770 ocpcx ddr5 graphics card
Ok, Corsair CX500 V2 500W Builder Series (will it be enough???)
Ok, arctic cooling cpu freezer 13 (there are more expensive ones, will this one be enough for overclocking?)
Ok, Nox Coolbay VX USB 3.0 Classic Edition

And doubts between these motherboards:

ASRock B75 Pro3 motherboard
MSI Z77A-G43 motherboard
amd msi 990FXA GD65 AM3+ DDR3 pcx atx motherboard
Pb Asus M5a99x Evo Am3 Atx

And I have a doubt between these micros:

AMD Fx-410 3.6GHZ AM3+ 95W processor
Intel Core i5 2500K 3.3Ghz Box Socket 1155

And we finish

[Franziskaner]

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@alvaro8800:

es una Enermax de 400w, pero que por lo que veo habra que pillar una de 500 verdad?

guárdate este enlace que es muy practico
http://support.asus.com/powersupply.aspx?Slanguage=es-es
saludos

[Sylver]

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Pasa de AMD que para jugar no es precisamente la mejor opción. Hace un tiempo estuvo por aquí un forero que preguntó por una configuración barata pero que soportase una gráfica decente para poder jugar en condiciones.
Al final se montó un i3 con una 6870 por unos 350€ más o menos y jugaba a casi todo a full, por lo que te recomiendo que consideres el post de ferelxyx donde te pone una interesante y barata configuración.

Saludos

[Franziskaner]

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efectivamente si se lee el enlace que puse en el post nº 18 lo vería claro , pero aveces uno postea para nada .
saludos

[alvaro8800]

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Me he leido el post, y agradezco todos y cada uno de los consejos. Pero es que estoy aqui batallando con el amigo por AMD. Pero ya esta descartado. VAMOS A POR UN INTEL

Quiere un i5 y esta dispuesto a poner 200 euros por el micro:

Intel Core i5 2500K 3.3Ghz Box Socket 1155
Intel Core i5-3570 3.4Ghz Box Socket 1155

Placas:
Placa ASRock B75 Pro3
Placa MSI Z77A-G43

Y finiquitado.

GRacias, por todo y mas aun por la paciencia <:(