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    • CRASHONC Desconectado
      CRASHON @_Neptunno_
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      That that…long long!!!! Hahaha
      A question, although I imagine the answer, the 2 modules of 4 memory, to 1 of 8 is to take advantage of the dual, right? Is it worth it?

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        @_Neptunno_:

        Well, the truth is that there is barely any performance difference between the two, but the 3570K is cooler, as it runs at 77w compared to the 95w of the 2500k.
        That said, I don't know what the prices are like right now, but depending on the difference, one might be better than the other.

        Personally, I think that whichever processor you choose, it will be good for a long time ?

        Best regards!!

        I had read in several reviews that these new Intels were hotter than the previous ones, regardless of the fact that the 2500K, even though it's a bit cooler, does consume more.

        Both CPUs are really good, to be honest: AnandTech - Bench - CPU

        I would go for the 3570K with a good heatsink, but some 2500K's overclock a bit more. In short, both are great processors.. :troll:. and I'm still holding on with my Q6600 at 3.2 and hoping it lasts :llorar:

        At the price of memory, 2 modules of 4 Gigas will be a steal. Better two modules than one for Dual Channel as you rightly pointed out.

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        • SylverS Desconectado
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          +1 to 2500K because it is cooler at temperatures even though it consumes more (very small difference), and because it goes further in overclocking :ugly:
          +1 also to Dual Channel, it is always better to have two modules of the same capacity. See 2x2Gb, 2x4Gb, etc.

          Best regards!

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          • CRASHONC Desconectado
            CRASHON @Sylver
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            The price of the 2500k to 3570 is 1€ in some store… so if you think it's good... then the 2500k... right now I'm waiting to get paid for the c2d and for them to tell me something about the p4 which I might sell for 50 euros the whole box... let's see if there's any luck and an order next week ;D

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            • amd125A Desconectado
              amd125 Veteranos HL @CRASHON
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              @CRASHON:

              Price of the 2500k to 3570 is 1 € in some store… so if you think it's good... then the 2500k... right now I'm waiting to get paid for the c2d and for them to tell me something about the p4 which I might sell for 50 euros the whole box... let's see if there's any luck and an order next week ;D

              If you mount a good heatsink the 3570K is not a bad option, and if you're not going to do extreme overclocking either. The I2500K as they tell you can go up a little more, but we're saying that both micros are very good. If you don't care that the temperature is a little higher the 3570K is a good option.

              As you can see in the review I gave you both are similar, but in general the 3570K pulls a little more. I if the difference is a Euro I would go for the 3570K. The thing is that in some stores the I2500K is about 30€ cheaper and I don't pay that for the difference in performance but a Euro… ;D Also the 3570K is not for leaving it stock :troll: just like the 2500K. There's a reason they have the multiplier unlocked :osvaisacagar:

              Take your time to think it over, and read some reviews, but whatever option you choose you'll get a good micro.

              jajaja the more we opine the more we confuse you :llorar:

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              • SylverS Desconectado
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                @amd125:

                Take your time to think about it, and read some reviews, but whatever the option you choose, you'll get a good micro.

                jajaja when we give more opinions we get you more confused :llorar:

                Of course if… :ugly:

                I've been so disappointed since I saw the "uncorking" of the Ivy... :ffu: for me the Sandy are more "noble" xD and more frecos, the truth is that's important.
                Anyway, and to help tip the balance, despite going against my preferences, the Ivy has a technology of less nanometers, more performance in the long run and more advantages in new boards like native USB 3.0, integrated graphics, etc.
                If the difference is a euro... 7 or 8 degrees more won't be so bad with a good heatsink and a moderate overclock ?

                Best regards!

                >> i7-2600K Sandy Bridge @4.4GHz || Noctua NH-D14 || ASRock Z77 Extreme4 || 4x8Gb G.Skill Ripjaws X DDR3 1600MHz || XFX RX 5700 XT 8Gb || SSD Samsung 850 PRO 256Gb & 850 EVO 500Gb || WD Caviar Green 1Tb || Barracuda 1Tb || Corsair TX650 V2 || M-Audio Fast Track Pro || KRK RP8 RoKit G3 || BenQ GW2750 27"
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                • amd125A Desconectado
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                  @Sylver:

                  Of course yes… :ugly:

                  I have been disappointed since I saw the "uncorking" of the Ivy... :ffu: for me the Sandy are more "noble" xD and more frequent, the truth is that is important.
                  Anyway, and to help tip the balance, despite going against my preferences, the Ivy has a technology of less nanometers, more performance in the long run and more advantages in new boards like native USB 3.0, integrated graphics, etc.
                  If the difference is a euro... 7 or 8 degrees more will not be so bad with a good heatsink and a moderate overclock ?

                  Best regards!

                  +1 ? Anyway if you have plenty of cash you buy both, you test them, and the one you don't want you give me, I'll give it a use. ?

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                  • ferelxyxF Desconectado
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                    I think everyone already knows the pros and cons of the two micros… Undoubtedly, both are very good.
                    The Ivy Bridge has as points in its favor; 10% more performance, lower consumption, prepared for future graphics with PCI 3.

                    The Sandy Bridge; "Less" performance (without OC), but a beast when OC

                    I have the 3570K and it works very well, it's true that it gets hotter than the 2500K
                    but it's not that much and it performs much more, I have it at 4000Mhz and a half-decent cooler
                    and it doesn't go over 70º in full load and goes up a little more but I don't need more, it has plenty of power

                    keep in mind that it performs a little more than the 2500K so the O:C. although it's less, they perform similarly
                    EG: 3570K at 4000Mhz and the 2500K at 4200Mhz would perform practically the same

                    AnandTech - Bench - CPU

                    regards

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                    • CRASHONC Desconectado
                      CRASHON @ferelxyx
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                      As you are... one thing is to advise and another is to drive me crazy jejejeje

                      I affirm that the difference is 4 euros, and I am not an extreme OC user, on the c2d I had it because it cost me nothing to overclock it, with 2 bios tweaks, that is, I had to get a cooler that was more beastly.

                      I don't know about the future, but for now I am satisfied with a moderate OC (right now I don't want to complicate my life), that the cooler is not a turbine, and that the consumption is not an animal... then?

                      By the way... I think I could wait a little bit with the acquisition of the components... do you think the economic situation will change something?

                      Ferelxyx, the pc would be "similar" to yours, except for the motherboard and graphics card I think, what can you tell me about performance in games? I would also be interested in your experience with the crucial HC, since now I see them as a bit more affordable... do you have it for the OS?

                      Thanks again to everyone, that although right now you have me a bit dizzy, I appreciate it a lot.... and to the one who dropped the idea of getting 2 and giving one away... it's not that big of a deal jejejejeje

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                      • SylverS Desconectado
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                        @amd125:

                        +1 ? Anyway, if you have enough money, you can buy both, test them, and if you don't want one, you give it to me, and I'll use it. ?

                        Come on, that's exactly what I was going to suggest! You're a great guy jajaja :risitas:

                        @CRASHON:

                        How you are... one thing is to advise and another is to drive me crazy jejejeje

                        Don't worry, I think we've reached a small consensus. If the price difference is minimal, the cooler is decent and the overclock is moderate, the answer is directly:
                        Intel i5 3570K 3.4Ghz ?

                        And the graphics card is the 7850 with 2Gb ?

                        Best regards!

                        >> i7-2600K Sandy Bridge @4.4GHz || Noctua NH-D14 || ASRock Z77 Extreme4 || 4x8Gb G.Skill Ripjaws X DDR3 1600MHz || XFX RX 5700 XT 8Gb || SSD Samsung 850 PRO 256Gb & 850 EVO 500Gb || WD Caviar Green 1Tb || Barracuda 1Tb || Corsair TX650 V2 || M-Audio Fast Track Pro || KRK RP8 RoKit G3 || BenQ GW2750 27"
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                        >> Intel Core2Duo E6600 Conroe @2.4GHz || Asus P5N32-SLI SE DELUXE || 2x1Gb DDR2 Kingston 800MHz || Asus nVidia GeForce 9800GT 1Gb GDDR3 || Seagate Barracuda IDE 80Gb 7200RPM || Linkworld LPK12-35 450W

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                        • ferelxyxF Desconectado
                          ferelxyx Veteranos HL @CRASHON
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                          @CRASHON:

                          Ferelxyx, the pc would be "similar" to yours, except for the motherboard and graphics card, I think. Can you tell me about the performance in games? I'm also interested in your experience with the Crucial HC, since now I see them as more affordable... do you have it for the OS?

                          I recently got it and I can tell you that I hesitated between the two computers as you did, because the first ones they released got very hot, but mine has good temperatures because they have already solved those problems

                          in terms of game performance, it's great. In the 3DMark 11, it surpassed all the 560Ti and almost reached the crossfire of the 7770
                          when with my previous C2D E6300 2.80 GHz @ 3.50 Ghz I couldn't even reach the Ati 6850

                          the solid state drive is working perfectly for now: fast, cool and quiet of course
                          and if I only use it for the OS, it's 64GB and of course, among other features, the system startup is very fast
                          and the shutdown is faster

                          regards

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                          • CRASHONC Desconectado
                            CRASHON @ferelxyx
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                            Ole!! ladies answers…well I think I have it clear on motherboard, processor and graphics...let's see if it reaches me for the ssd....would you mind if I also ask you about the heatsinks?

                            Before I had the thermaltake big typhoon vx...it's a shame that it's only compatible with 775, k8 and am2..in its day it also cost me money....what's out there now that has good performance?

                            ...look I take advantage...come on there's not much left!!!!

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                              Sylver Veteranos HL @CRASHON
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                              Well, some Cooler Master is cheap and well made, for example the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO you have it at 28€ :sisi:

                              Greetings!

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                              >> Athlon 64 X2 5600+ Brisbane @2.9GHz || Gigabyte GA-M61PME-S2 || 2x2Gb DDR2 Kingston 800MHz || Sapphire Radeon HD 5850 Xtreme 1Gb || Maxtor 320Gb SATA2 || OCZ ModXStream 500W Modular || TEAC PowerMax 120/2 || Acer X243w 24"
                              >> Intel Core2Duo E6600 Conroe @2.4GHz || Asus P5N32-SLI SE DELUXE || 2x1Gb DDR2 Kingston 800MHz || Asus nVidia GeForce 9800GT 1Gb GDDR3 || Seagate Barracuda IDE 80Gb 7200RPM || Linkworld LPK12-35 450W

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                              • FranziskanerF Desconectado
                                Franziskaner @CRASHON
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                                @CRASHON:

                                Ole!! señoras respuestas…pues creo que ya lo tengo claro en placa, procesador y grafica...a ver si me llega para el ssd....os molestaria si os pregunto tambien por los disipadores?

                                Antes tenia el thermaltake big typhoon vx...es una lastima que solo sea compatible con 775, k8 y am2..en su dia tambien me costo dineros....que hay por ahi ahora que de buen rendimiento?

                                ...mira que me aprovecho...venga que ya queda nada!!!!

                                hola, si mal no recuerdo las asrock son compatible con disipadores de 775
                                P.D muy buen disipador ¿ era el de cobre?
                                saludos

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                                  @amd125:

                                  I would mount the 3570K with a good heatsink, but some 2500K stretch a bit more in overclocking. In short, both are great processors.. :troll:. and meanwhile I'm holding on with my Q6600 at 3.2 and hoping it lasts :llorar:

                                  The truth is that the Q6600 is a great processor, I have a lot of affection for mine even though it's used in the family PC :llorar:
                                  But anyway, the day it dies, I'll reuse it for the second PC I have at my parents' house and leave the E6700 out of work :troll:

                                  The truth is that with my i7 920 I've been amazed at how much Intel micros go up. I've almost set it to 2Ghz more than its stock speed, and I'm not even very experienced!!
                                  Now I don't know if I have it at 3.8 or something like that, although for winter I think I'll turn it up and save on heating (just kidding, you wouldn't believe how cold it gets where I live, haha)
                                  The truth is that a 2500k is a "terrifying" micro, and certainly the day it doesn't give more of itself, my micro won't either…

                                  Anyway, whoever buys it, as I said before, it will be a great choice and you'll enjoy your "new baby" wonderfully.

                                  Regards!!

                                  P.D: I'm not planning to renew with my 920 and my GTX 670 for a loooong time. And if I do, please call me a compulsive consumer and ban me from the forum for a few months :ugly:

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                                      Well yes, the heatpipes are made of copper… well I appreciate the information, if it's compatible I'll use it for my new "baby"... hahaha

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                                        Franziskaner @CRASHON
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                                        @CRASHON:

                                        Well yes, the heatpipes are copper… well I appreciate the information, if it's compatible I'll use it for my new "girl"... hahaha

                                        no man no, not the head pipes no... the thermaltake big typhoon vx I can't remember if it's the normal one (the one I had) or the "V" shaped one that had the copper fins version.
                                        that was the question, anyway whether it's the normal or the "V" it's a great heatsink that I think will work very well for you.
                                        regards

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                                          Mother that disconnect!!!
                                          Well, good news, I sold the c2d for 120 and the p4 for 50…jejejeje I think I got a good deal
                                          Regarding the cooler, the fins are not copper, but if as you say, it is compatible with the board, I think the performance will be much better than the e series
                                          A small doubt, I saw the 7870 for about 30 more than the 7850....what do you say? Is it worth it?

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                                            Yes, it's cool. You haven't got a single platform, right? As you said you're not into extreme OC, you can go for a Z75 Pro3 with the 3470. I think you can reach a multi of 38 with a Z and with a little bit of base clock you have 4GHz.

                                            The 3470 is at 170€ and the Z75 at 85€ approx at pccomponentes, a pretty cool platform performance/price. Then you have 2x4GB Corsair Value for 35 euros, with the 7870 you'll have to indulge in conditions for a long season.

                                            Editing: There has been a price movement, now the ideal is the 3570 for 180€, you would have the 4GHz without touching the base clock.

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