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Directly to register on Amazon. They have logistics in Spain, right? Well, in any case, thank you very much Obione. Although it is very tight, I think I will be able to install a heatsink with those characteristics. Obviously it is not enough for a large tower. For now, mid-tower and that's why the modular power supply is essential (I'm only going to connect a few things:troll:) For the use I will give it, I will assemble the essential equipment. But while walking around the shops in the center of BCN, I see that, with the crisis, they are getting rid of core i5 (sandy Bridge) with 8GB of ram for 465 in some cases. I'm not going to look either, I'll also check the forum to see what's going on with mobile telephony, adsl that I will have to use the mobile as a router and I have to look for an interesting prepaid rate. Regards!
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Directly to register on Amazon. They have logistics in Spain, right? Well, in any case thank you very much Obione. Although it's very tight I think I can install a heatsink with those characteristics. Obviously it's not enough for a large tower. For now a mid-tower and that's why the modular power supply is essential (after all I'm only going to connect a little:troll:) For the use I'm going to give it, assembling the essential equipment. But walking around the shops in the center of BCN, look that with the crisis, they are getting rid of core i5 (sandy Bridge) with 8GB of ram for 465 in some cases. Nothing I'm also going to look around the forum to see what's going on with mobile telephony, adsl that I will have to use the mobile as a router and I have to look for an interesting prepaid rate. Regards!
It came out for me for 360€ = ASRock Z77 Extreme4 + i5 2500K + 8Gb of G.Skill Ripjaws X RAM :sisi:
>> i7-2600K Sandy Bridge @4.4GHz || Noctua NH-D14 || ASRock Z77 Extreme4 || 4x8Gb G.Skill Ripjaws X DDR3 1600MHz || XFX RX 5700 XT 8Gb || SSD Samsung 850 PRO 256Gb & 850 EVO 500Gb || WD Caviar Green 1Tb || Barracuda 1Tb || Corsair TX650 V2 || M-Audio Fast Track Pro || KRK RP8 RoKit G3 || BenQ GW2750 27"
>> Athlon 64 X2 5600+ Brisbane @2.9GHz || Gigabyte GA-M61PME-S2 || 2x2Gb DDR2 Kingston 800MHz || Sapphire Radeon HD 5850 Xtreme 1Gb || Maxtor 320Gb SATA2 || OCZ ModXStream 500W Modular || TEAC PowerMax 120/2 || Acer X243w 24"
>> Intel Core2Duo E6600 Conroe @2.4GHz || Asus P5N32-SLI SE DELUXE || 2x1Gb DDR2 Kingston 800MHz || Asus nVidia GeForce 9800GT 1Gb GDDR3 || Seagate Barracuda IDE 80Gb 7200RPM || Linkworld LPK12-35 450W -
Cooler Master CM 690 II (ver.2), Plastic, Steel, 0 W, 1x 120 mm, 120 mm, 80, 120, 140 mm, 1x 120 mm - Coolermaster EUR 78,14
AMD FX-8150 Microprocessor 3.6Ghz, 16 MB, AM3+ - EUR 167,85
Asrock 990FX EXTREME3, 32 GB, 800, 1066, 1333, 1600, 1866 MHz, dual, DDR3-SDRAM, AMD, Socket AM3 -
EUR 94,95
Kingston KHX16LC10K2/16X - Memory, 16 GB DDR3, 1600 MHz, 240-pin DIMM - EUR 73,82
Thermalright True Spirit 140, 21 Db, Black, Copper, Green, Silver, Yellow, 771 g, 170 x 53 x 155 mm
EUR 41,78
OCZ ModXStream Pro, 700W, 700 W, 100 - 240 V, 50/60 Hz, 10 A, Overload, ATX - EUR 77,31
Ocz AGT3-25SAT3-240G Agility 3 EUR 157,14
Sapphire Radeon HD 6750 - Graphics card ATI (PCI-e, 1 GB GDDR5 memory, HDMI, VGA, 1 GPU) - SAPPHIRE
EUR 90,01EUR 781,00
Now if we put
OCZ Agility 3 120Gb SSD - Sata 3 - 525/500 Mb/s
88,95 € compared to 157€
DDR3 Crucial Ballistix Sport 16Gb (2x8192Mb) - PC12800(1600Mhz) - CL9
56.96 € compared to 73 €Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4Ghz Box Socket 1155
229€On amazon it is at 299€
ASRock Z77 Pro4-M 87 €
With the Intel option I save ten euros on the motherboard and spend 60 euros more on the processor. That is, about 640 euros approximately, without the graphics card. I think this processor will have better performance than the FX, always according to my needs.
And using the integrated card on the motherboard I save a total of 180 euros, that is approximately around 600 € which is within my possibilities. Within this configuration I can go up to 700. Other alternatives are accepted. Thanks, compis!!!!:osvaisacagar: -
Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4Ghz Box Socket 1155
195€
ASRock Z77 Pro4-M
87 €
Memoria DDR3 Crucial Ballistix Sport 16Gb (2x8192Mb) - PC12800(1600Mhz) - CL9
56.96 €
Disco SSD OCZ Agility 3 120Gb - Sata 3 - 525/500 Mb/s
88,95 €Thermalright True Spirit 140, 21 Db, Black, Copper, Green, Silver, Yellow, 771 g, 170 x 53 x 155 mm
EUR 41.78
OCZ ModXStream Pro, 700W, 700 W, 100 - 240 V, 50/60 Hz, 10 A, Overload, ATX - EUR 77.31625,14€
The total of these components. The tower does not convince me, but if I do not see an option that has a good quality price ratio and can install the heatsink and fan without problems, I will stay with this option.
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Well, the tower is a marvel in terms of usability. Easy to clean, install components, configurable cooling, etc. Now, if you don't like it aesthetically, to each their own. ;D
You also have the option of the Nox Coolbay VX which are a bit cheaper and are practically the same as the CM-690.I recently built a system with an Asrock Z77 pro 4, but the ATX version, and I really liked the motherboard.
Best regards
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Well, the tower, in terms of usability, is a marvel. Easy to clean, to install components, configurable cooling, etc. Now, if you don't like it aesthetically, to each their own. ;D
You also have the option of the Nox Coolbay VX which are a bit cheaper and are practically the same as the CM-690.Recently I built a system with an Asrock Z77 pro 4, but the ATX version, and I really liked the motherboard.
Best regards
I don't like it in the sense that on Amazon I've seen several models with the same name and I need to know which one will allow me to place the heatsink comfortably. I also imagine that with the modular power supply and installing very little, the hot air extraction will be done perfectly by the fans that come with the stock tower. I think the tower is fine.
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I don't like it in the sense that on Amazon I have seen several models with the same name and I need to know which one will allow me to place the heatsink comfortably.
Discard the 690, it is mediocre and very old. Look for the CM 690 II, there is the advance, with a dock to plug in hard drives hot and the Lite, if so but cheaper. They have also released the version of these with USB3. The 690 II are great, everything fits and it is elegant.
I have a Nox and I won't repeat. For saving 20€, I miss the quality of CoolerMaster.
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Skip the 690, it's mediatorre and very old. Look for the CM 690 II, there's the advance, with a dock to plug in hard drives hot and the Lite, if it is but cheaper. They have also released the version of these with USB3. The 690 II are grantorre, everything fits and it's elegant.
I have a Nox and I won't repeat. To save myself 20€ I miss the quality of CoolerMaster.
In the full configuration I have the Cooler Master 690 II Advanced and now it has convinced me. To start it's not bad. That said, I buy the tower at BCN store, because otherwise they assure me that paying by credit card the shipping is free, it's too heavy. Although I always paid cash on delivery, now when paying via card or PayPal I imagine it will be free.
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It is a great Jordiqui case that I have assembled both the Lite and the Advance versions. If you don't use the hot-swap dock, the Lite will work perfectly. It is a great case, either one of them.
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Well if you see her physically she is better, because no photo does her justice.
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AMD FX Series FX-8150 Black Edition - 3,6 GHz - Socket AM3+ (FD8150FRGUBOX) - AMD EUR 272,06
Asrock 990FX EXTREME3, 32 GB, 800, 1066, 1333, 1600, 1866 MHz, dual, DDR3-SDRAM, AMD, Socket AM3 EUR 96,42
730€Complete configuration with AMD
Asrock Z77 Pro3, 32 GB, 16GB, 1GB, 2GB, 4GB, 8GB, 1066, 1333, 1600, 1866, 2133, 2400 MHz, DDR3-SDRAM, dual, Inte EUR 81,65
Intel Core i7-3770K - Processor EUR 299,48
EUR 743,17Score of the Intel processor 14647 in fritzBenchmark
Score of the AMD processor 12150 in fritzBenchmark.The difference between both configurations is 13 euros. Obviously too little difference in euros, but yes in performance for the same price, well 13 euros less.
What do you think? In the end I spent 43 euros of the budget, well then I will have the coffee at home next month and that's another 40 euros that I save and invest in the core i7.The truth is that I don't know how Amazon works, but there are almost a hundred euros difference between the first and the ones that are known in our country. What a mess I have now between the bulldozer architecture ivy Bridge and others. I will meditate in the shade.
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Final decision. It really pays off the 8150 as long as the difference in the fritzbenchmark does not justify those 200€ extra of the processor. I hope you like the configuration, although I wish the price would go down a bit so I can get the graphics card. There are still 15 days left….. -
It doesn't convince me, better air, more than enough with the 970A-UD3 and a TX 650. Get 2x4GB Ares 1333 low profile so they don't clash with the Silver Arrow SB-E and go for the 8320. PD: You won't notice the RAM frequency but if you want, raise it to 1600, the important thing is to give it some juice to micro and NB. -
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No me convence, mejor aire, sobra con la 970A-UD3 y con una TX 650 más que servido. Pilla 2x4GB Ares 1333 de perfil bajo para que no te choquen con el Silver Arrow SB-E y ves a por el 8320.
PD: La frecuencia de la RAM no la vas a notar pero si quieres súbelas a 1600, lo importante es que le des caña a micro y NB.
Respecto a las memorias tengo que subir la cantidad, los programas de ajedrez gestionan unas bases de datos brutales y necesitan mucha ram con el procesador estoy contigo, ahora que me acabo de despertar no voy a amilanarme por el hecho de que esté el multiplicador bloqueado. Respecto a la fuente, la diferencia del precio es tan poca que el hecho de que sea modular o no si que influye al menos para mí a la hora del montaje final quiero dejarlo lo mejor posible . Aunque con la placa y el disipador tengo dudas, no técnicas sino que creo que al procesador lo podemos exprimir algo más con el 990 que con el 970 y respecto al disipador es una animalada como los que compraba antes, aunque parece ser que el rendimiento es el mismo que el H100 y eso que yo le pongo el H80 por lo tanto será inferior el mío. A estas alturas no voy a andar con la estética, pero si con la funcionalidad. El precio de esa serie de Corsair no justifica el precio si atendemos a sus resultados:
Tengo tiempo para pensar respecto a la placa y el tema térmico. La memoria necesito mínimo 16Gb o más , si fuera como hace dos años atrás no dudaría en absoluto ir a por las 1333, pero ahora no puedo. Gracias Obione me has ayudado a pulir detalles. Sobretodo el procesador que merece la pena el cambio.
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Sorry, quise decir 2x8, para 2x4 te hubiera dicho Crosair Value.
En mi opinión con la 990X estás pagando opciones multiGPU más que otra cosa, a parte comentaste que no vas a hacer OC "extremo". En cuanto a la fuente modular, nada que no se apañe con 3 o 4 bridas.
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Cierto Obione no voy a hacer Oc "Extremo" pero según he visto la comparativa en el test del video, por cierto muy bien hecho, deja claro que por aire se obtiene sino he visto mal un grado menos que con el Kit de Corsair. Pero no me negarás que con el mismo precio, porque el disipador es de los caros, queda mucho más limpia la placa, cuanto menos, es más sencillo de montar y creo que se evitan remolinos en el flujo de aire. El radiador abajo y un bloque que no ocupa prácticamente espacio dejando la torre libre. En cuanto a la placa cierto lo del multigpu, de ahí que en la placa si que voy a pensarlo bien puesto que no voy a pagar la estética y sobretodo un chipset que no voy a usar al 100%. En esta imagen no aparece el 8350 porque no está, pero es el que voy a comprar. Las crucial porque no puedo poner las cuatro sino lo haría, pero imagino que por lo visto me va a salir más barato en Amazon o pcc.. La torre en BCN por el peso que cobran por ello en el transporte. Tengo que mirar bien las diferencias de rendimiento entre los chipsets 990 y 970 trabajando con un FX y como imagino que serán mínimas pues me decantaré por la asrock que sale por 84 € pese a que me gusta mucho la UD3 por los bloques,etc aunque entre el socket y los bancos de memoria hay poca distancia y los mofets muy pegados tambien, por lo que el bloque me dará menos problemas.
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Creo que se puede reducir en la fuente de alimentación, en la refrigeración colocando un disipador tipo thermalrigth como me comentásteis. Respecto a ambas plataformas, me seduce la opción de intel con el core i7
por el rendimiento y, por otro lado, el Vishera, aunque realmente el que se me escapa es el core i7. El bloque y radiador de Corsair proporciona una estética que me gusta, pero siendo realista no voy a pagar cien euros, por algo que despues en el futuro puedo cambiar por algo mejor y montándolo esta vez bien, pieza a pieza. A ver que os parecen estas opciones que me quedan diez días para hacer el ingreso a estos señores
y quiero pulirlo bien. Y sí me apetece hacer overclocking no lo puedo remediar, aunque como dije antes, no pueda tomar café por las mañanas.
gracias de antemano.
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