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      Pepillo @ELP3
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      @ELP3:

      A question, since I'm a bit disconnected..

      To you guys.. with those super clocks at 1202MHZ, does GPU-Z detect those clocks by default? because mine keeps showing the stock ones, even though then in sensors, if it goes to 1201,9

      Best regards.

      The bios has nothing to do with it, it's the GPUz that doesn't calculate it. By default, the Zotac I have had a Boost of 1.006 Mhz, and it didn't show up in the GPUz either.

      Best regards

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        Teeth you already have the Mp answered. ELP the GPUZ does not read those values because the BIOS that have been modified do not vary either the voltage or the speed in a reliable way, (I mean that the chain of binary values relative to the maximum speed that can give the boost is not touched, they simply damage the programming so that the hardware malfunctions, this is why the voltage goes up and if you damage it more, you can raise it to what is said to be the top, which I calculate can be between 1.25V to 1.26V, LIMITED BY HARDWARE DESIGN for me at the edge of electromigration in this cpu if you use it 24x7.La CPU reads some incoherent values from the eeprom and in a way of speaking gives way to that voltage, that is if only part of it is damaged, not all. I am not the one to criticize anything or anyone, in fact I am not even able to touch what I want in the BIOS, due to lack of an interpreter for these GPUs, but my personal opinion is that what people call a masterpiece of BIOS because they allow raising the voltage I personally consider an authentic mess, but it is my opinion. They simply raise speed because there is more energy and the hardware uses it, but without software control, which is how it should be.
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          Pepillo @majo
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          @majo:

          ELP the GPUZ does not read those values because the modified BIOSes do not vary either the voltage or the speed in a reliable way

          That is not true. The GPUz is unable to read the Boost of the Titans. This is what mine showed, original bios and untouched:

          and its Boost was 1.006.

          Regards

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              xenxo_80 @Pepillo
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              Finally I decided to buy a Zotac Gtx Titan! I join the club. I hope it arrives this week.
              The Sli Gtx480 will finally stay to build the second Pc with X58 + I7 950.
              I am reading your conclusions with the new bios flashed it seems that it is worth it according to the posts exposed previously.
              I have the doubt if I change the bios of this Zotac since it will be with the series cooler.
              Can you pass me some tutorial and some bios to try. What web bios do you get?
              Changing the bios of graphics I had never done.
              The issue of Warranty is void if it becomes a brick

              Greetings

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                Patagonico @xenxo_80
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                One more who joins the Titan club with a Zotac.

                Best regards.

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                  Pepillo @Patagonico
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                  Two more Zotacs for the forum, that's good. You're taking your time to provide data, your ASICs, the Boost as standard, etc...

                  xenxo-80, don't get involved in changing the bios because others do it. First try it as standard, and if you have problems or want more and are willing to take risks, then do it, but knowing what you are doing and why you are doing it. In this same thread there are several links.

                  Greetings

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                    xenxo_80 @Pepillo
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                    Thanks Pepillo!! I'm considering the backplate you bought. What 32€ stings!!! Let's see if I find something cheaper on aquatunning or ebay.
                    We'll try with the stock bios. Let's see what asic has. Changing the bios doesn't sound very good to me.
                    I'll try with the Evga Precision to see how it goes with the stock and to increase the mhz a bit to see how it behaves
                    Regards

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                      Patagonico @Pepillo
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                      @Pepillo:

                      Two more Zotacs in the forum, that's good. You're taking your time to provide data on your ASICs, the Boost as standard equipment, etc...

                      xenxo-80, don't get involved in changing the bios just because others are doing it. First, try it as standard, and if you have problems or want more and are willing to take risks, then do it, but knowing what you're doing and why you're doing it. There are several links in this same thread.

                      Regards

                      I tried it in games and it generally performs more than double the GTX 580. My ASIC comes out to 76.5%, although I still don't understand what that means, I'm reading the GPU Boost guide you posted.

                      Regards.

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                          @Patagonico:

                          I've been testing it in games and it generally performs more than double the GTX 580. The Asic is 76.5% for me, although I still don't understand what it means, I'm reading the guide you posted about GPU Boost.

                          Regards.

                          It means the quality of the chip and with that Asic you can put the 1202 bios, I suppose your card with boost reaches 1006 MHz so it's a good card although Nvidia is putting pretty bad asics, the 65% ones didn't even have to be Titans, they had to be for a more cut and cheaper range.

                          Register it on the Zotac website to see if you get the extra 3 year warranty.

                          regards

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                            Patagonico @fjavi
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                            @fjavi:

                            It means the quality of the chip and with that Asic you can put the bios of 1202, I suppose that your card with boost reaches 1006 MHz so it is a good card although Nvidia is putting pretty bad asic, the ones from 65% is that they did not have to be Titan, they had to be for a more cut and cheaper range.

                            Register it on the Zotac website to see if you get the extra 3 years warranty.

                            regards

                            Well then I got a good one although for now I don't think I'll modify the bios yesterday I tried the boost a little I saw 1000 in gpu-z but I don't know what I touched in the Evga precision (I think K-boost) then the graphics in idle did not go below 56º when before it was at 30ºC, I uninstalled everything but nothing still at that temperature even turning off and on it went up the same in a few minutes.

                            I had to format, I also bought a Corsair 240Gb SSD and let the Intel of 80Gb rest so there wasn't much drama there and the graphics went back to 30ºC in idle

                            I just registered the graphics on the Zotac website, since they told me in the store that for Zotac you have to send to Zotac Usa for RMA (I hope not) I haven't received the confirmation yet.

                            Now with these modified bios doesn't the temperature spike?

                            regards.

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                              jordichq @Patagonico
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                              Hi,

                              I'm introducing myself, as I'm new here. I'm a computer scientist, and I'm quite into gaming. I've been following several threads for a while now, and it seems like I've finally decided to join in.
                              I'm about to buy a Titan, and although I know that the brand doesn't change the final product, because they all come from NVIDIA, it seems that ASUS ones come out well. And from what I can see, these ZOTAC ones do too. Where did you buy yours?
                              Best regards

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                                Pepillo @jordichq
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                                Patagonico, I have opened a thread with the analysis of GPU Boost 2.0 and the overclocking of the Titan that I posted in another forum, so that you can also consult it here:

                                GPU Boost 2.0 - Funcionamiento y overclock de la Geforce Titan - HardLimit

                                The K-Boost what it does is to fix the voltage, so that it doesn't go down even when it's at rest, that's why your temperatures were getting so high. It's for those who want to squeeze out one more point in some benchmark, but it's not at all a recommendable option, don't touch it. The bios that I put in, if it goes down in 2d, so the temperatures go up as normal from the overclock that you apply to it. In fact, I have better temperatures now at 1,200 Mhz than it came from the factory, since I created a custom fan profile that keeps it cooler (from the factory, if you turned up the fan it increased the Throttling, the consumption limit was so tight that even that influenced it, as ELP3 mentioned here). Saludos
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                                  Jotole @jordichq
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                                  @jordichq:

                                  Wenas,

                                  Me presento, ya que soy nuevo. Soy informatico, y le doy bastante al vicio. Llevo siguiendo varios hilos desde hace tiempo, y parece que al final me he animado.
                                  Estoy a punto de comprarme una titan, y aunque ya se que la marca no cambia el producto final, porque vienen todas de nvidia, parece que las asus salen bien. Y por lo que veo, estas zotac tambien. Donde las habeis comprado?
                                  Un saludo

                                  Muy buenas y bienvenido…..

                                  A la hora de elegirla, sinceramente, elige la que mas coraje te dé....xD. O encuentres mas barata. Todas van exactamente igual, algunas consiguen mejores Oc que otras, pero eso es una lotería....

                                  Salu2...

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                                    Pepillo @Jotole
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                                    I think the same. I bought it from a review. That said, the fact that Zotac gives you a five-year warranty is an interesting addition if you find it at the same price. eVGA gives a lifetime warranty, but only in the USA as far as I know.

                                    Regards

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                                      jordichq @Jotole
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                                      @Jotole:

                                      Very good and welcome…..

                                      When choosing it, honestly, choose the one that gives you the most courage....xD. Or find a cheaper one. They all go exactly the same, some get better OC than others, but that's a lottery....

                                      Salu2...

                                      Thanks. Actually, I know you're right, it's a lottery, but statistically, all the asus I've seen had good asic, while in other brands it's more random.

                                      Best regards!

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                                        Jotole @jordichq
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                                        @jordichq:

                                        Thanks. In reality, I know you're right, it's a lottery, but statistically, all the asus I've seen had good asic, while in other brands it's more random.

                                        Best regards!

                                        It may be, I haven't stopped to buy by asic's. Mine have 81,4 % an EVGA SC, 72,5 and 69,7% the Gigabyte.

                                        Let's see how you get out.............

                                        Salu2...

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                                          Patagonico @Pepillo
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                                          @Pepillo:

                                          Patagonico, he abierto un hilo con el análisis del GPU Boost 2.0 y el overclock de la Titan que puse en otro foro, para que lo podáis consultar también aquí:

                                          GPU Boost 2.0 - Funcionamiento y overclock de la Geforce Titan - HardLimit

                                          El K-Boost lo que hace es fijar el voltaje, que no baje ni cuando está en reposo, por eso te subían tanto las temperaturas. Es para los que quieren arañar un punto más en algún benchmark, pero para nada es una opción recomendable, no lo toques.

                                          La bios que puse yo, si me baja en 2d, por lo que las temperaturas suben lo normal del overclock que le apliques. De hecho tengo mejores temperaturas ahora a 1.200 Mhz que como venía de origen, ya que creé un perfil personalizado del ventilador que la mantiene más fresca (de fábrica, si subías el ventilador aumentaba el Throttling, el límite del consumo estaba tan apurado que hasta eso influía, como puso ELP3 aquí mismo).

                                          Saludos

                                          En realidad fue tocar para ver que hacia :wall:, pero bueno lo malo es que hasta desistalando el programa no se bajaban las temperaturas, el perfil del ventilador tambien lo cree 15º C menos jugando que de serie.-

                                          Cual de las bios recomiendas? y cual es la ganancia real en juegos?, que por lo que veo a 1440p todo el tiempo esta a 60 fps, sacando algunas caidas a 30 fps pero casi no influie en la jugabilidad.

                                          Saludos.-

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                                            Pepillo @Patagonico
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                                            As I recommended to xenxo_80, don't rush and first test that serial card properly. If you're not convinced by the Throtlling or want more overclocking, then try one of the bios. In the other thread I opened are the ones from the eVGA forum, which is the one I use and it works very well for me. Jotele will probably post his "collection" of bios in a few days as well. They are all variations of the same one, the one Naemon put on OCN.

                                            Regards

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