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It's a PC quite worse than the one I've put in everything except the processor which is the same and the memories which are a bit better: the case regulareja, the bad power supply, the motherboard too basic (and with only 2 memory slots: I want 4), and the hard drive of the heap.
I need the PC to have quality components since reliability is fundamental.
Anyway, from which store have you taken that budget? It has good prices.
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Disco duro: Western Digital 1Tb Caviar Black: http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.aspx?id=760
y el disco duro del montón
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¿Why is a Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 from the pile and a Caviar Black is not?
WD Blue WD10EZEX
WD Black WD1002FAEXSeagate st1000dm003
It's a PC quite worse than the one I put in everything except the processor which is the same and the memories which are a little better
Quite worse you say...
Case: Talius Selene: Talius - Selene
the case regulareja
You say it as if that Talius is not equally regulareja...
Power supply: Nox Urano VX 650 with active PFC: http://www.nox-xtreme.com/en/product/urano-vx-650w/57/
the bad power supply
B-move bad, Nox good... of course
Both equally regulareja
I need the PC to have quality components since reliability is fundamental
Talius, Nox, Caviar Black, etc...
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Why is a Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 from the heap and a Caviar Black is not?
WD Blue WD10EZEX
Seagate st1000dm003
Much worse says...
You say it like that Talius is not just as regular...
B-move bad, Nox good... of course
Both just as regular
Talius, Nox, Caviar Black, etc...
:ugly: The cream of the crop
You are right about everything and I just canceled the order. Tell me the name of the store where you got that quote to buy those components there, please.
Thanks.
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man, I feel a little more secure with a 650W NOX with PFC, which is not the cream of the crop, than one that comes with a box for 28€… -
Fuente: Nox Urano SX 500W (30€)
hombre, a mi me da un poco más de seguridad una NOX de 650W con PFC, que tampoco es la creme de la creme, que una que viene con una caja de 28€…
Coincido. Es mas, no dije lo contrario y de ahi a decir que la b-move es mala comparada con una nox…
Yo diria que, para un equipo sin dedicada como es el caso, es preferible la SX:
Calidad por 500€:
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@G0D1N0 The NOX is cheaper, more powerful and more efficient than that AeroCool; quality…, quality would be that instead of putting random things in images you explain why you prefer this over that with a couple of sentences, without excesses either, lest it be.
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G0D1N0, I am interested in knowing the store where you get those estimates from. Do you mind passing me the link or the name, please?
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@G0D1N0 The NOX is cheaper, more powerful and more efficient than that AeroCool
You are wrong in everything, it is just the opposite of what you say
The Aerocool practically delivers the 500 watts it promises while the Nox stays below the Aerocool (it barely exceeds 480 watts) and well below the 650 watts that its nomenclature suggests
Besides, the Aerocool is single rail
If I am right, the Nox does not even have the 80 Plus standard:
:ugly: Marketing for the gullible ->
Barely 6€ difference between them, I would have no doubt about which one to choose:
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You confuse the power in 12V with the total power, that it is not certified does not mean that it does not have that efficiency, and 80+ bronze is 81-85%. On paper, the NOX is superior, although I have not read any reviews, if you know of any to be able to compare both it would be interesting.
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If anyone is interested in the link to the table shown in the image (which would be good to always include the link): PSU Review Database
Personally, just by seeing them inside, I would choose the Aerocool :ugly:
Nox Urano VX650
Aerocool Strike-X 500
Well, in reality, I wouldn't choose either of the two XD
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G0D1N0, can you give me the name of the store, please?
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The NOX is more powerful and more efficient than that AeroCool
The Aerocool practically delivers the 500 watts it promises while the Nox falls short of the Aerocool (barely exceeding 480 watts) and well below the 650 watts its nomenclature suggests
Besides, the Aerocool is single rail
If I'm correct, the Nox doesn't even have the 80 Plus standard
On paper, the NOX is superior
"Don't try to explain to someone who doesn't want to understand"
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My God, what a terrible day I had yesterday. In the end I bought the components that G0D1N0 recommended in his quality estimate at a local store. The computer is for the boss since I'm in charge of IT in an accounting advisory office. So this conversation happened:Me: here's the computer you urgently ordered
Boss: umm, are you kidding me?
Me: no, is there a problem?
Boss: look, did I see you with a cheeky face or what?
Me: No pe…
Boss: no buts or baloney! what kind of box is that with the transparent side?
Me: He pensa…
Boss: don't think! look what happens when you think! what will customers think when they see all the cables on my computer? Besides, will you come to clean the dirt every month so it looks spotless?
Me: Well, not that much…
Boss: no man or nothing! I leave the box there for 6 months and you can see more fluff than anything else. Would you hire someone's services if they were a slob?
Me: Well…
Boss: well, let's see the invoiceHe takes a look at the components and at that moment a vein starts to swell on his forehead that I had never seen before. It seems that yesterday he wasn't in a good mood and didn't buy good components.
Boss (with nervous laughter while reading the invoice): hahaha! haha! hahaha!
Me: is there another problem?
Boss: look, kid… don't you understand about the term reliability?
Me: these components are completely reliable.
Boss: oh really? is this crappy hard drive the most reliable thing you found? didn't you ask me about this and I told you that they recommended the Western Black whatever?
Me: I'll show you right away that this one is more reliable than the Western Digital BlackSo I was foresighted and printed the graphs that G0D1N0 put in this thread.
Me: here's the proof
At that moment I see how two more veins start to swell, fatter than the previous one. I thought he was going to have a fit.
Boss (with nervous laughter while looking at the graphs): hahaha! haha!
Me: I told you, it's better and cheaper!
Boss: you're an idiot! since when is the reliability of a hard drive measured with performance graphs? what's going on? that the faster it is the more reliable it is? and where are the 5 years of warranty for this one?
Me: well umm…
Boss: damn! even a subnormal monkey could have ordered something decent! and I won't even look at the rest. install it and leave it running because I need it for yesterday. on Monday we'll talk about this.so nothing, just waiting for Monday.
by the way G0D1N0, I'm still interested in the name of the store where you made the first estimate. can you send me the link, please?
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Godino, sigues de sobrado. no pones el enlace de donde has sacado las fotos, no dices esa fantástica tienda de la que pones los precios y dices las cosas con sorna.
Aprende de krampak, que añade enlace y fotos de interiores de fuentes. Así sin decir nada nor convenció.Si tan listo eres, ilumínanos, oh maestro. Si, es sorna.
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Caja: Nox Nova (25€)
Caja: Talius Selene: Talius - Selene
Madre mía, qué día horrible tuve ayer. Al final compré los componentes que me recomendó G0D1N0 en su presuesto de calidad en una tienda local. El ordenador es para el jefe ya que llevo el tema de informática en una oficina de asesoría contable. Total que se produjo esta conversación:
Yo: aquí tiene el ordenador que me encargó urgentemente
Jefe: umm, estás de coña ¿verdad?
Yo: no ¿hay algún problema?
Jefe: a ver ¿me has visto cara de macarra o qué?
Yo: No pe…
Jefe: ¡Ni peros ni leches! ¿qué clase de caja es esa con el lateral transparente?
Yo: He pensa…
Jefe: ¡No pienses! ¡Mira lo que pasa cuando piensas! ¿Qué van a pensar los clientes cuando vean que a mi ordenador se le ven todos los cables? Además, ¿vas a venir tú a limpiarle la suciedad todos los meses para que se vea impoluto?
Yo: Hombre tampoco hay…
Jefe: ¡Ni hombre ni hostias! Dejo ahí la caja 6 meses y se ven más pelusas que otra cosa. ¿Tú contratarías los servicios de alguien si fuera un guarro?No puedo estar mas de acuerdo con tu jefe ya que las cajas que tu propusiste (Nox Nova y Talius Selene) tienen laterales perforados por donde se van a ver todos los cables y le va a entrar el polvo que da gusto. La Talius ademas tiene lucecitas horteras en el frontal
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¿Por que un Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 es del monton y un Caviar Black no?
¿Por que un 7200.14 no es fiable y un Caviar Black si lo es?
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Godino, sigues de sobrado. no pones el enlace de donde has sacado las fotos, no dices esa fantástica tienda de la que pones los precios y dices las cosas con sorna.
Aprende de krampak, que añade enlace y fotos de interiores de fuentes. Así sin decir nada nor convenció.Si tan listo eres, ilumínanos, oh maestro. Si, es sorna.
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calidad sería que en vez de poner cosas aleatorias en imágenes nos explicases porque prefieres esto a aquello con un par de frases, sin excesos tampoco, no vaya a ser.
Godino, sigues de sobrado
¿Que "valientes" sois no?
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No puedo estar mas de acuerdo con tu jefe ya que las cajas que tu propusiste (Nox Nova y Talius Selene) tienen laterales perforados por donde se van a ver todos los cables y le va a entrar el polvo que da gusto. La Talius ademas tiene lucecitas horteras en el frontal
¿Por que un 7200.14 no es fiable y un Caviar Black si lo es?
En cuanto a la Nox y la Talius, las he visto en directo y no se ve el interior a través de los agujeros ya que está muy oscuro. Quizás si le da el Sol por un lado e ilumina el interior se pueda distinguir algo por los agujeros, pero no es el caso. Y las luces horteras no hay por qué conectarlas.
En cuanto al disco tienes toda la razón. El lunes se lo voy a decir así tal cual al jefe.
Por cierto, ¿tienes por ahí el enlace de la tienda de donde has sacado el primer presupuesto?
Gracias.
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paz hermanos
1º si God1no pondría los enlaces de las tiendas , me parece ami que hace tiempo que estaría clasificado como SPAM ( por que casi casi lo único que hace es soltar presupuestos , lo cual tampoco esta mal )
2º sobre los interiores de las F.A …... por casa tengo una Perdoom con laterales trasparentes :troll::troll:
3º en mi opinión God1no a metido la pata hasta el fondo , metiéndose con un moderador ,pero ...... creo que en este foro últimamente tiramos demasiado de "punto rojo" y poco de explicaciones ;D
4º y ultimo Cobito dudo mucho que God1no te pase algún enlace
saludoscuidado que hace daño a los ojos
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"No intentes explicar a quien no quiere entender"
Aha, palabra del señor, amen!
Sabes esto es un foro de discusión, pero también estamos habituados a tratar con trolls. El problema es que no duran mucho, así que te voy dando una cordial despedida, echaremos en falta tus dogmatismos y tus capturas de pantalla. Y G0D1N0 mi único voto negativo ha sido uno tal que: "Hola holita vecinito", pero no te preocupes que ahora me voy a dedicar a revisar tus comentarios y a puntuarlos como es debido
