Battle of the titans "780 ti Vs 290x" first results.
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Yes I'm not saying it won't go up, but for 699€ it's not worth it.
For a little more you have an sli of 780 that gives it a very interesting overhaul.
And if you overclock it you also overclock temperatures, which isn't very cool.
This is like everything, you have to see the good and the bad and criticize any brand.
I'm not saying it won't be a beast, it will be, but with the 780s out at 400€ and the titans, this price performance doesn't add up to me.
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It's clear that power if you get two cheap 780s will perform much better, but it's also true that Nvidia's releases always go up a lot at the same time, it's not just Nvidia's thing that will have it too, many times it's the stores that want to make more money on the novelty, that's why the Titan was seen at over 1000€ when it came out or the 780 for over 650€.
It's just a matter of waiting a little and not going through the hoop in these abuses, when it stabilizes it will probably be found at less than 600€ which without being cheap will be somewhat better.
What happens is that now it's going to keep coming out better to buy 780 and more if deals keep coming, it won't be like a 780 and a 770 which were different chips, now it will be better to buy something cheaper and change when they release the 20nm.
Regards
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Bueno pues viendo la diferencia de rendimiento entre una 290 de 349 euros y una 780 ti de 669 euros en Crysis 3 ….le saca 5 FRAMES!!!
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages…review,25.html
Descartada
83 graditos pasado el verano, es la moda de este año…..calefacción incluida
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages…_review,9.html
Esperar custon de las 290 o pillar 2 780 bajaditas de precio.
saludos¿Se puede saber porqué estás copiando comentarios de otro foro aquí y que además no son tuyos?, porque has hecho una copia literal de un comentario de pirata de N3D.
PD: Sí, 5 fps son pocos o MUCHOS dependiendo del total, de la misma manera que 20 fps importan una mierda con 200 fps de partida. Y sí, 83ºC de temperatura, sin hacer throttling apenas, es todo un éxito, más cuando no tienes porqué quedarte sordo por el camino, que es el auténtico sentido del disipador de las nvidia GTX 780 y superiores, calidad y sonoridad muy buena para una solución blower.
PPD: A ver si va a ser cierta la acusación que te lanzaron hace ni un par de días de venir por aquí para trolear, porque vamos… todo un copy y paste de comentario ajeno y de otro foro, ni más ni menos:
http://foro.noticias3d.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=420401&p=4991799&viewfull=1#post4991799
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Yes, I'm not saying it won't go up, but for 699€ it's not worth it.
For a little more you have an SLI of 780 that gives it a very curious overhaul.
And if you overclock it, you also increase temperatures, which is not very cool.
This is like everything, you have to see the good and the bad and criticize any brand.
I'm not saying it won't be a beast, it will be, but with the 780s that are being seen at 400€ and the titans, this price performance doesn't add up to me.
RegardsSent from my GT-N7100 using Tapatalk 2
I would appreciate it if you didn't come here doing the job of an AMD CM, pretending to slip in false things like artificially inflated prices:
http://www.pccomponentes.com/gigabyte_geforce_gtx_780ti_3gb_gddr5.html
http://www.pccomponentes.com/evga_geforce_gtx_780_ti_3gb_gddr5.html
http://www.pccomponentes.com/evga_geforce_gtx_780_ti_superclocked_3gb_gddr5.html
NONE of the GTX 780 Ti that appear on PCcomponentes have that price you say, and while the MSRP is 699$, DOLLARS are not EUROS, in the same way that the R9 290 DOES NOT cost 400€ in the EU despite having an MSRP of 399$.
I know for sure that in the thread where you have already made a copy and paste of someone else's flamer comment, the appearance of the first GTX 780 Ti on PCComp had already been commented on and the price was around 650€, it wasn't the most expensive of the ones I put precisely (which is also the most expensive because it's a version with OC). So please desist in your attitude as an AMD CM, because you're not fooling anyone with the prices, sticking to the reality you've seen (because you've surely seen that in the N3D thread, the price in a Spanish store) is a requirement for you to be taken seriously.
That little more you're talking about for the GTX 780 SLI is about 250€, which is not exactly "a little more", although they are undoubtedly a better investment. But if it were about paying only for what offers the most cost, many high-end cards wouldn't make sense. For those who have the money, the Ti has pretty good reasons to build it, and it's being able to go further by paying more, even if it's not with the same performance/price ratio.
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Good graphics, although honestly I expected more for less. Although of course, you can't ask for pears from an elm tree (nvidia) for them it must have been a very tough decision to stop selling GTX 780 from 550 to 370€ and Titans at 1000€..that's the good thing about competition.Even if it's fictitious, because seriously, the R9 has so many problems in everything, that for now it's not a competitor of anything..but look, it has lowered prices which is what matters..
I, having the TITANs unlocked, won't even bother..it would have to be a debacle for me to comprara.La VRAM,although I don't see a disadvantage, 3GB is more than necessary because you run out of power sooner with it than without it, nor do I see them as excessive compared to the 6GB of TITAN and I who mount 4, I could notice something in the future..
What I would like to see is those TI under water and with the mod, they will surely blow at 1400MHZ..let's just say, they will sweep everything with that V02 chip they have..
Regarding Juanjo...we all know what he's up to, don't pay attention..you'll catch a liar sooner than a cripple.I hope Krampak takes note that the problem isn't the way, but the bad atmosphere...
Best regards.
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Buena gráfica,aunque sinceramente esperaba mas por menos.Aunque claro,es que tampoco se les puede pedir peras al olmo(nvidia) para ellos ha tenido que ser un palo muy fuerte dejar de vender GTX 780 de 550 a 370€ y Titanes a 1000€..es lo bueno de la competencia.Aunque sea ficiticia,porque siendo serios,la R9 tiene tantos problemas en todo,que de momento no es competencia de nada..pero mira,ha bajado precios que lo que interesa..
Yo teniendo las TITAN desblquedadas ni me voy a molestar..tendría que ocurrir una debacle para que me las comprara.La VRAM,aunque no le veo inconveniente,3GB es mas que lo necesario pues te quedas antes si potencia quesin ella,tampoco se me andan sobradas comparadas con las 6 de TITAN y yo que monto 4,si podría notar algo en futuro..
Lo que si me gustaría ver esas TI bajo agua y con el mod,soplan seguro a 1400MHZ..vamos,que ván a a barrer con todo con ese chip V02 que llevan..
Respecto a Juanjo…ya sabemos todos de que vá,ni caso..se le pilla antes a un cojo que a un mentiroso.Espero que Krampak tome nota de que el problema no són las formas,sino el mal ambiente...
Un saludo.
Hombre, qué quieres que te diga, a mí me sorprende que nvidia se atreviera a usar un GK110 completo (bueno, no del todo, ya en su momento dije que había unas buenas posibilidades de que la Ti fuera justo esto) y además con cambios menores pero que todos suman para hacer algo más que lo estrictamente necesario para mantener la corona de rendimiento (podría coger una GTX 780 y subir frecuenicas y modificar perfil de ventilación para evitar la entrada de throttling, o coges los mismos chips que para Titan y meterlos en la Ti, pero no, chip completo, stepping nuevo, revisión de fases y chips de memoria mejores).
Le saca un 10% aproximadamente a la Titan/290X, lo cual es sacar mucho usando el GK110, sobre todo teniendo en cuenta que tiene, si cabe, un margen de OC impresionante para ser teóricamente la GK110 más "apretada" de fábrica (frecuencias y chip completo):
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_780_Ti/30.html
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_780_ti_review,28.html
Ambos OCs son bastante parecidos, la gpu la ponen entre 1250-1300 reales con el boost (el REAL, no el que el te dice gpu-z que es el mínimo que tiene un modelo dado, pero no el de cada unidad), sin tocar voltajes ni nada raro. Las memos al borde de los 8Gbps.
Es bastante impresionante, porque que un top tenga tanto margen de OC es raro (sí, ya sé que con las Fermi también se cumplió). Esta gráfica es un pepino de stock, pero parece más pepino con el OC metido en la ecuación, un OC que además es perfectamente asequible tal cual viene, sin grandes florituras ni sacrificios de comodidad de uso (nada de ponerse cascos de protección para los oídos).
Está claro que el chip B1 parece que ha mejorado frecuencias en esta gpu, con RL y con algo de sobrevoltaje bien puede haber unidades a esos 1400 que dices, es que coño, ya se pone tal cual vienen casi a 1300 y sin necesidad de PCBs mejorados ni nada.
Teniendo unas Titan, está claro que no tiene mucho sentido el cambio, pero claro, tampoco tenía sentido el salto a las 290X, pero ya sabemos que era por trastear. ;D
Habrá que ver hasta dónde se suben a la parra las versiones de 6 GB para quien quiera curarse en salud o multigpu masivo/super-resoluciones.
Eso sí, tampoco hay que caer en burradas como esta review:
Como supuesta prueba de que hoy en día esos 3GB se pueden quedar cortos… :ugly:
Reviews de tipos que parecen auténticos noobs, parece que no saben que:
1.- El total de VRAM indicado por los medidores de memoria gráfica no representa la necesidad real de una aplicación desde que se instauró windows vista y su modelo de "memoria gráfica unificada".
2.- La parece ignorancia de que muchas gráficas, teniendo VRAM como es el caso, de sobra, usan MAS VRAM igualmente de la necesaria dado que no descartan tan "rápidamente" datos ya no usados (cacheo de datos con X posibilidad de volver a ser llamados en breve por la aplicación, si tienes VRAM vacía, ¿porqué no?).
3.- Aero en sí consume fácilmente unos 200-300 MB.
Vamos, que se han lucido con el experimento. Menos mal que probaban las cosas a 1080p pero con tonteridas como SSAA y alguna mejorilla en el driver como aniso 16x (ah, pero no es obligatorio hoy en día?)... :ugly::ugly::ugly:
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Wendi..to assume that it takes 10% off the TITAN,you have to take for granted that this review is accurate.And for me it is not even under a torrent of water.That the TITAN is below (now,not at launch) in all games of a 290X is not believed by anyone who has had both.
They only take 220CC and more bandwidth…also the TI goes a little higher in clocks.I think that with equal clocks they will take at most 5%...
The only thing that catches my attention is the OC potential.But one thing is the maximum seen in boost 2.0,which is undoubtedly mind-blowing and another thing is being able to maintain it.No they can't maintain it,not because there is a lack of voltage,like the R9s,but because Nvidia's TPD with the Power Target does not allow it.We would have to wait for some custom bios that unlock the full potential of spending to see how far they go,how much voltage they need and how much real performance gain there is,which without a doubt,will be more than what is seen in reviews.
To give you an idea,the bios that I have now on the TITAN,allows me to have a higher spending of 400W per card and a power target that often hovers around 160%...so you can see that the thing with the pins is another inconsistency,when thinking that for the mere reason of having 1X8 and 1X6 you can't spend more than 300W...false,they take it directly from the power supply or from the PCIe or wherever they can get it..
I think it's an exceptional card,but the TITAN is also exceptional..there is no necessary justification for such a low percentage increase in gain to change them.And above all,you lose a lot of money..
And one more thing,currently Nvidia only gives official 4 WAY SLI support to TITAN.No to the 780,we will have to see if this one has it or not..because make no mistake...if it's going to see a TITAN ULTRA..it's the so-called TI Black,with the dp untouched,from 6 to 12GB a monstrous OC and freed from TPD..
Regards.
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Wendi..to assume that it takes 10% out of the TITAN,you have to take for granted that this review is accurate. And for me it is not even under a torrent of water.That the TITAN is below (now,not at launch) in all games of a 290X is not believed by anyone who has had both.
They only take 220CC and more bandwidth…also the TI clocks a little higher.I think that with equal clocks they will take at most 5%…
The only thing that catches my attention is the OC potential.But one thing is the maximum seen in boost 2.0,which is undoubtedly mind-blowing and another thing is being able to maintain it.No they can't maintain it,not because there is a lack of voltage,like the R9s,but because Nvidia's TPD with the Power Target does not allow it.We would have to wait for some custom bios that unlock the full potential of spending to see how far they go,how much voltage they need and how much real performance gain there is,which undoubtedly will be more than seen in reviews.
To give you an idea,the bios I have now on the TITAN,allows me to have a higher spending of 400W per card and a power target that often hovers around 160%…so you can see that the thing about the pins is another inconsistency more,when thinking that for the mere reason of carrying 1X8 and 1X6 you can't spend more than 300W…false,they take it directly from the power supply or from the PCIe or wherever they get it..
I think it's an exceptional card,but the TITAN is also exceptional..there is no necessary justification for such a low percentage increase in gain to change them.And above all,a lot of money is lost..
And one more thing,currently Nvidia only gives official 4 WAY SLI support to the TITAN.No to the 780,we will have to see if this one has it or not..because make no mistake…if it's going to be a TITAN ULTRA..it's called the TI Black,with the dp untouched,from 6 to 12GB a monstrous OC and freed from TPD..
Regards.
Well, consider the detail, all those "only" that you say add up, one more SMX, which means that in texturing and shader application it has 1/14 more power (7%), 50 MHz more frequency, which means another 5% extra (in texturing and shaders, in addition to the 7% previous) of performance in rasterization, tessellation and geometry handling, etc. Those 7 Gbps in memos, means 1/6 more memory bandwidth (16.7%). Everything adds up, and although in a combined way it may seem that anyway it won't go up so much, well…10% is a realistic estimate.
Of course, with equal frequencies these differences are not like that, but then there wouldn't be so much difference between a Titan and a GTX 780 if there were total frequency equality (except for games very dependent on shaders/texturing).
This is not meant to take it badly, man. An extra 10% is not a scenario or to value them as a possible option of change, if I already tell you so, besides with yours already fully squeezed with OC to 1300 even less, but that the potential of these 780 Ti is very interesting, especially seeing its behavior with "home" OC, without overvolting, much less with modified BIOS, what can I say, I find it very promising, I've seen good absolute OCs by air and with the card "as is", with some adjustment outside the usual like modified BIOS and such, potential is poured out there, for sure (yes, I also know what it is to play with BIOS to maximize the card, those 160% are not very different from the maximum limit of my little GTX 670, ejejeje... :troll:).
On the subject of PCI-e connectors, I never said they were absolute limits, they are limits imposed by the standard behind PCI-e on maximum consumption limits for each type of connector, of course you can consume more than that, but that is outside the standard, and graphics cards "as they come" must comply with it at least apparently (depending on the test used), since this is how they obtain the necessary certification and also avoid problems derived from causing possible damage to power supplies incapable of giving enough power as requested when OC is done. But yes, normally power supplies and pci-e connectors can give more power than the "official" one.
Just think, most current graphics cards do not use much of the pci-e bus to feed themselves, and they rely much more on the 12V pci-e connectors, if they were not capable of giving more, most graphics cards would not be able to do any OC. If a GTX 670 has 2 connectors of 6 pins, with these it could not obtain more than 150W and, with luck, another 75W (or 150W, depending on the pci-e version) from the pci-e slot. That is, it could not go beyond 225W in many configurations.
Those adapters from 6 pins to 8 pins that come with many graphics cards (because it would be impossible for them to give the maximum voltage of an 8 pin connector) would not be of much use either, etc.
About 4-way, I'm not sure, but I read that the Ti does have support for it, not the "old" GTX 780.
In your case although the new ones look "beautiful" from afar, it makes no sense to change and more while there are no 6GB versions. Anyway, it is a great update for... those who don't have a Titan or a 780, it doesn't matter in this case. The improvement is relatively marginal and except that you don't have to put almost any money, it's not worth even considering. It's not the best option performance/price, but it's not about that. What interests me is that they have released a new stepping, they say they will be in that strange product that I still doubt its existence, the GTX 780 GHz edition, and I also find interesting the reinforcement in bandwidth with those new memos.
Regards.
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Good graphics, although honestly I expected more for less. Although of course, you can't ask for pears from an elm tree (nvidia) for them it must have been a very strong decision to stop selling GTX 780 from 550 to 370€ and Titans at 1000€..that's the good thing about competition.Even if it's fictional, because seriously, the R9 has so many problems in everything, that for now it's not a competitor to anything..but look, it has lowered prices which is what matters..
I, having the TITANs unlocked, won't even bother..it would have to be a debacle for me to comprara.La VRAM, although I don't see a disadvantage, 3GB is more than necessary because you run out sooner if you don't have it, nor do they seem to be excessive compared to the 6GB of TITAN and I who have 4, I could notice something in the future..
What I would like to see is those TI under water and with the mod, they will surely blow at 1400MHZ..let's go, they will sweep everything with that V02 chip they have..
Regarding Juanjo…we all know what he's up to, don't pay attention..you'll catch a lame man before a liar.I hope Krampak takes note that the problem isn't the way, but the bad atmosphere...
Best regards.
Well if there's competition I think there's little, some already have problems maintaining the frequency as standard, in summer it's going to be even worse, they will have to improve a lot the custom ones and OC looks difficult, that's why in some reviews the 290 is seen to perform better than the 290X, maybe it needs a little less voltage and can maintain the frequencies better, although I suppose that if some 290x lower frequency the same will happen with some 290.
For example my 780 says a boost of 1006 and it goes alone to 1124mhz, just as it comes from the factory and I didn't see it go below that in any game that keeps it at a high load, that's why I think those graphics will have to spend a lot on PCB and components and especially on dissipation, because in summer it can be worse.
TR Forums • View topic - So much for 290x's claimed "1GHz"…
although it's true that the market has gotten better since they came out, but they have work ahead to ensure the frequency.
regards
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I think it's a monumental mistake to release them with 3GB and at 670 euros.
Nowadays this graphic doesn't make any sense, with the 780 for almost 300€ less. If it had been with 6GB I would still consider it; but I certainly won't pay for a few more frames and continue having buffer saturation problems with MSAA above 2X or supersampling.
When the Black Edition with 6GB comes out I'll think about it.
Best regards
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1. About copying, the only thing I've done is put the links and I've changed what I believed, since nothing was commented here, so I put it.
Here, other gentlemen have also put copy from n3d and nobody has said anything to them, of course because they say what everyone wants to hear.
2. About what you've commented ELP3, I never believed what they said about you in n3d and I entered this forum to know from your hand the performance of the r9s.
3. Never at any time have I brought comments from this forum to n3d.
But here there are people who do bring them from n3d here to laugh at people.
As you said from your mouth in n3d they are some talibans and you can't speak badly of amd…..no no no.
Where you can't say anything about nvidia is here and where there are more talibans is here.
I laugh at how impartial you are, just look at how you've all jumped on me.
It's that I feel embarrassed for people who try to deceive others and deceive themselves by saying they are impartial.
If Krampak thinks he has to ban me from the forum he will, but until today I have not disrespected in this forum and here they keep disrespecting me.
But well, with not entering the threads where the talibans of nvidia are, I have enough.
Don't bother to answer, it's that I don't bother to read anything else in this post, already with what I've read I have enough to see what the movie is about.
ELP3 you knew how the r9s worked, you just tested them to demonstrate your pro nvidia fanaticism and laugh at amd... period.
Greetings champions.
PD: I already know why they comment what they do in n3d, it doesn't surprise me that you don't want to enter or they don't let you.Sent from my GT-N7100 using Tapatalk 2
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To me it seems like a monumental mistake that they're releasing it with 3GB and for 670 euros.
Nowadays this card doesn't make any sense, with the 780 being almost 300€ cheaper. If it had been with 6GB I'd still consider it; but I'm not sure I want to get a few more frames and continue having buffer saturation problems with MSAA above 2X or supersampling.
When the Black Edition with 6GB comes out I'll think about it.
Best regards
Pen, honestly and you know this with all due respect I think we processed it a while ago. In an SLI like yours, it doesn't matter if it's 3, 6, or 12GB... what matters is power. And NO current card has enough power on its own to exhaust its VRAM before its power.
It would take a very specific game, with a lot of SSAA and very high resolutions, for OUCH! 4 cards at once (4 way sli, Quad CF etc) to run out of VRAM before running out of power.
Don't trust VRAM meters. None of them are reliable and they only take the "allowed" surplus.
The TI black of 6GB, I repeat that I'm almost certain it's the new TITAN Ultra at 1000€
Hugs.
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I don't know who said it or what it would be, but at Nvidia it's not even in the project, nor is the Ultra, as far as I know. The TI with unlocked BIOS can reach 490W a bit long, almost 500W. I base this on the fact that the phases they carry are prepared up to that figure in a reliable way
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Pen, sincerely and you know it from the respect that I think we processed a long time ago. In an SLI like yours, it exactly doesn't matter if it's 3, 6, or 12GB... what matters is the power. And NONE of the current graphics cards have enough power by themselves to exhaust their VRAM before their power.
It would take a very specific game, with a lot of SSAA and very high resolutions, for OJO! 4 graphics cards at once (4 way sli, Quad CF etc) to run out of VRAM before running out of power.
Don't trust the VRAM meters. None of them are reliable and they only take the "allowed" surplus.
The TI black of 6GB, I repeat that I'm almost sure it's the new TITAN Ultra at €1000
A hug.
Hello fellow.
I have no doubt that this is the case in single monitor configurations.
For a while now I have a multi monitor setup of 3 DELL U2412M of 1920x1200 for a total of 5760x1200 in Surround (5960x1200 with Bezel Correction).
I can assure you that in all the tests I have done, which are not few, it is impossible to reach the maximum level of filters with my current SLI of GTX 780 because of its 3GB of VRAM.
As soon as you go above MSAA 2X it starts to crash which is a pleasure (some games can handle 4X but they are the exception). In some games especially tough with VRAM (Like Hitman), it's not that it stutters because of buffer saturation, it's that I have even had an exception of "out of memory" in the driver.
If I don't use MSAA, and monitoring the VRAM consumption, I almost always go above 2800MB in all the top games (BF4, Metro LL, Crysis 3), which makes me think that in the near future I will be short even without filters.
I know from other companions who use Surround (Like Ruruloko) that the use of VRAM with all the filters sometimes reaches 5GB.
This is my experience. As I tell you.
A hug
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I don't know who said it or what it would be, but the TI Black isn't in Nvidia's plans, nor is the Ultra, as far as I know. The TIs with unlocked BIOS can reach 490W a bit long, almost 500W. I base this on the fact that the phases they carry are prepared up to that figure in a reliable way
I believe it..it's the only way Nvidia can once again charge €1000
http://videocardz.com/47530/nvidia-geforce-gtx-780-ti-also-special-edition
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I do believe it..it's the only way for Nvidia to once again price it at 1000€
http://videocardz.com/47530/nvidia-geforce-gtx-780-ti-also-special-edition
Honestly I hope they don't price it at 1000€, although seeing how they've gone up the wall with these Ti, who knows.
Best regards
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Hello friend.
I have no doubt that this is the case in single monitor configurations.
For some time now, I have had a multi-monitor setup of 3 DELL U2412M monitors with a resolution of 1920x1200 for a total of 5760x1200 in Surround (5960x1200 with Bezel Correction).
I can assure you that in all the tests I have done, which are not few, it is impossible to reach the maximum level of filters with my current SLI of GTX 780 because of its 3GB of VRAM.
As soon as you go above MSAA 2X, it starts to crash which is great fun (some games can handle 4X but they are the exception). In some games that are especially tough on VRAM (like Hitman), it's not that it stutters due to buffer saturation, it's that I have even had a "out of memory" exception in the driver.
If I don't use MSAA, and monitoring the VRAM consumption, I almost always go above 2800MB in all the top games (BF4, Metro LL, Crysis 3), which makes me think that in the near future I will be short even without filters.
I know from other friends who use Surround (like Ruruloko) that the use of VRAM with all the filters sometimes reaches 5GB.
This is my experience. As I tell it to you.
Best regards
I also have surround..
In Hitman this happens even with TITAN and 290X…it's a bug in the game if you abuse MSAA.
SSAA is impossible to apply, not for lack of VRAM, framebuffer, or anything...it's simply because it multiplies your resolution by 2 or 4 whatever you put. And an SLI of GTX 780 doesn't have the power for that.
Neither Metro nor Crysis 3, reach to spend more than 2 GB of real VRAM at 1600p with everything maxed out and 8XMSAA..everything else that MSI puts on you is "allowed" memory...what they can't do is your graphics with such a waste of power that you're asking them.
I was monitoring the other day the use of a real 4K with Tomb Raider and 4SSAA, and it never exceeded 2700mb...and NOTE, because there were 4 graphics that allowed to have almost 60 stable fps..there the MSI measured more or less well.
You are confusing bugs, lack of power and other things, with VRAM...with an SLI of GTX 780, you are stuck with power before applying large amounts of filters than Vram.Si I would talk to you about a 4 Way maybe..but with 2, not a chance..
And Ruroloko has TITAN, that's why it reaches to mark 5GB of VRAM on Afterburner, which marks almost the one the graphics card has.
It is impossible for any meter to measure the VRAM of win7..it doesn't exist...they are only estimations, and besides it is very recommended to remove the Aero in these cases.
Best regards.
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I also have surround..
In Hitman that happens even with TITAN and 290X…it's a game bug if you abuse MSAA.
SSAA is impossible to apply, not for lack of Vram, not framebuffer, not a damn thing...it's simply because it's multiplying your resolution by 2 or 4 whatever you put in.And an SLI of GTX 780 doesn't have the power for that.
Not even metro, not Crysis 3, they can spend more than 2 GB of real Vram at 1600p with everything maxed out and 8XMSAA..everything else that MSI puts on you is "allowed" memory...what they can't do is your graphics with such a waste of power that you're asking for.
I was the other day monitoring the use of a real 4K with Tomb Raider and 4SSAA,and it never exceeded 2700mb...and WATCH IT,because there were 4 graphics that allowed for almost 60 stable fps..there MSI measured pretty well.
You're confusing bugs, lack of power and other things, with Vram...with an SLI of GTX 780,you get stuck before if power when applying large amounts of filters than Vram.Si you were talking to me about a 4 Way maybe..but with 2,not a chance..
And Ruroloko has TITAN,that's why it can mark 5GB of Vram on afterburner,which marks almost the one the graphics has.
It's impossible for any meter to measure the Vram of win7..it doesn't exist...they are just estimations,and besides it's highly recommended to remove aero in these cases.
Hugs.
So according to your experience, how can I solve my problem? With a 3 Way?
First thing is to throw my micro in the trash, but I'm in love with the new Rampage IV Black Edition, and it doesn't want to come out of the damn thing. I know you're not a big fan of LGA2011, but I want a hexacore micro.
Then I'll consider boosting the graphics part.
Hugs
PD: Look, I'm talking about a problem when it's not one, playing everything maxed out without MSAA through the roof is a blast; but I want that extra point.
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So according to your experience, how can I solve my problem? With a 3 Way?
First thing is to throw my micro in the trash, but I'm in love with the new Rampage IV Black Edition, and it doesn't want to come out of the damn thing. I know you're not a big fan of LGA2011, but I want a hexacore micro.
Then I'll consider boosting the graphics part.
A hug
PD: Look, I'm talking about a problem when it's not really one, playing everything at full blast without MSAA turned up to the max is a joy; but I want that extra something.
I would listen to what ELP3 says about you having more of a problem with a lack of power to be able to move that super-resolution with MSAA than a real problem with a lack of VRAM, and I'm not just saying that because he has experience with these configurations, but because the tests in 4K (with a similar weight to your monitor configuration in pixels to move) carried out throughout reviews support him if interpreted correctly.
Here it is seen, in these tests, that the GTX 780 or Ti don't seem to be "affected" especially against the 290/X, yes in some specific cases it seems that the latest ones have a bit more muscle (they gain ground, this doesn't necessarily mean they beat the TI), but I'm basically 100% sure that this is due to the potential of the ROPs of Hawaii in games that are highly dependent on their work, not to the extra VRAM.
To reach this conclusion I have taken into account these factors:
1.- Comparative performance between 780 and Ti vs Titan at 4K, there is no apparent loss of performance when using 3 GB instead of 6 GB.
2.- Comparative performance between the GK110 and the Hawaii, in most cases there are no differences because of the resolution itself, and in cases where there does seem to be a difference, the Titan also seems to lose "oomph" (I insist that this doesn't imply any "defeat", although there may be some cases, but simply that sometimes the advantages or equalities are lost), ergo there is no relationship between the amount of VRAM and performance, or rather, there is no direct relationship between current games even with super configurations like this and whether a graphic has 3, 4 or 6 GB of VRAM.
Long before VRAM runs out, muscle usually runs out, look precisely at tomb what happens even using FXAA:
And here with an SLI:
There isn't enough muscle to move this game with SSAA activated, as it implies doubling or quadrupling the total pixels to render, and with 1200px3 you slightly exceed the number of pixels of 4K. Note that they have also disabled TressFX for this test (which also consumes a lot of VRAM by itself, but consumes even more power than VRAM), but it's just that, quite simply, an SLI of 2 ways with GK110s or Hawaiis in 4K with this game is barely enough. In your case, the same applies. 3 ways could give you an extra, but I don't know if it would be enough, to be honest. To play with FXAA and with TressFX activated, perhaps, but not to add SSAA on top of that. This game and those resolutions, nothing current moves them like that, but not because of the amount of VRAM, but because of the lack of power.
Q: Ambition gets the better of you, look that with that tremendous resolution and you still want more... :llorar:
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Well, just that Tomb Raider doesn't go too bad for me with SSAA (as you can see, the graphics are without any OC in these tests):
Tomb Raider 5760x1200 - 2xSAA - 16xAF - Ultra settings - TressFX Hair
Tomb Raider 5760x1200 - FXAA - 16xAF - Ultra settings - TressFX Hair
**Tomb Raider 5760x1200 - 16xAF - Ultra settings - Normal Hair
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Although ELP is very right that one thing is the benches and another very different is to really play.
Best regards -
Well, just that Tomb Raider doesn't go too bad for me with SSAA (As you can see, the graphics are without any OC in these tests):
Tomb Raider 5760x1200 - 2xSAA - 16xAF - Ultra settings - TressFX Hair
Tomb Raider 5760x1200 - FXAA - 16xAF - Ultra settings - TressFX Hair
**Tomb Raider 5760x1200 - 16xAF - Ultra settings - Normal Hair
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Although ELP is very right that one thing is benchmarks and another very different is to really play.
Best regards
Yeah, but this game specifically if it doesn't go above 50 fps you notice, not by jumps but not perfectly fluid, it has to be above that rate to give a full experience.
That's not to mention that, what is the integrated benchmark, has little or nothing to do with the real experience in the game, which unfortunately usually has areas of worse performance than the benchmark.
Regards.
