WD Green and 24/7

[Praimus]

Hello, I have a doubt and no matter how much I've searched, I haven't read anything clear about the topic, The doubt is, I have 14 WD Greens, distributed in 2, 3 and 4T in a volume with FlexRaid, this computer is only intended for storage and turns on either to manage the FlexRaid volume or to view some content from the living room HTPC, we go about 4/5 times a week and the time to watch a couple of chapters or a movie. I have come up with the "need" to give other uses to this computer which would oblige it to be on 24/7, although the greens wouldn't have work they would be idle, Knowing that they are low-power domestic storage disks how will it be to leave them on 24/7? Another option is to buy an APU and dedicate it to work 24/7 and continue turning on the greens only when necessary. For budget and convenience I would prefer to use the same computer for everything, as long as it doesn't mean the death of the greens. What do you think?

[cobito]

If the system is not installed on the disks, you can configure the power management to turn them off after a certain time.

On the other hand, if they are not confined, there should be no problems in having them on for 24 hours.

[Praimus]

Hello, thank you for your reply,

The OS is installed on a 120g Mini SSD connected by Msata, the use of the greens is only and exclusively for storing HD content, the new work of the team would be on other disks, either a raid 0 or 5, which I still have to decide, but anyway, the greens would be idle.

I once played around with power management in Windows and even after the 10 minutes I had set, I could see the disks spinning, which is why I was never convinced by that option, maybe I didn't do something right but it's not very complicated.

Sorry, what do you mean by confined?

[cobito]

@Praimus:

Hello, thanks for your reply,

The OS is installed on a 120g Mini SSD connected by Msata, the use of the greens is solely and exclusively for storing HD content, the new work of the team would be on other disks, either a raid 0 or 5, which I still have to decide, but anyway, the greens would be idle.

I once played around with power management in Windows and even though I set it to 10 minutes, I could still hear the disks spinning, which is why I was never convinced by that option, maybe I didn't do something right but it's not very complicated.

Sorry, what do you mean by confined?

By confined I mean that they are physically very close to each other, in a very tight space and ultimately poorly ventilated.

Power management should work as long as there is no activity on the disks. If you have the system on an SSD and no program is accessing the mass storage, they should stop spinning.

Anyway, as long as they have adequate cooling, there shouldn't be any problems with them spinning 24/7.

[Praimus]

Ventilation is not a problem, I have them in a 4-rack setup with a 14cm fan blowing air at them from the front.

I'll try the power management thing, thanks ;D

[Sylver]

I, like a true madman, have an internal Caviar Green :ugly: and the truth is that it performs well for many hours, I bought it second-hand with almost a couple of years of use (accumulated hours) and to this day it has not lost performance nor has it shown symptoms of damage on the Crystal Disk :sisi:

Greetings

[_Neptunno_]

My long experience with this type of disk (WD Green): good cooling always and check that none gets hotter than normal, it can happen….

I have seen that some have problems with the energy mode and it stays like permanently working, and in the end it ends up "cooked", that is, good cooling is ideal and that they are not stuck together.
In general, I don't want to scare you either, they are usually quite reliable, but it's just that, due to my work, several hundred of these disks have passed through :ugly:

Greetings!!

[Sylver]

@_Neptunno_:

My long experience with this type of disk (WD Green): good cooling always and check that none is getting hotter than normal, it can happen….

I have seen that some have problems with the power mode and it stays permanently working, and in the end it ends up "cooked", that is, good cooling is ideal and they should not be stuck together.
In general, I don't want to scare you, but they are usually quite reliable, but because of my work, several hundred of these disks have passed through :ugly:

Regards!!

+1 to the temperature thing. My one day I felt like looking at it in Crystal with the case closed and the temperature was in the red at 64º C

But I removed the front disk drive bays from the case, put a normal 8 cm fan in it and let it run, now it doesn't go over 36º C :fumeta:

Regards

[Praimus]

@_Neptunno_:

My long experience with this type of disk (WD Green): good cooling always and check that none is getting hotter than normal, it can happen….

I have seen that some have problems with the power mode and it stays permanently working, and in the end it ends up "cooked", that is, good cooling is ideal and they should not be stuck together.
In general, I don't want to scare you, but they are usually quite reliable, but because of my work, several hundred of these disks have passed through :ugly:

Greetings!!

It seems that the power mode thing works, I activated it in 10 minutes and after a while when I try to access the directory it takes a little while.

Is there any way to know if they are really stopped or not?, any software that tells you?.

How bad is it to really leave a disk spinning 24/7?? apart from the hour counter growing rapidly? is it likely to die before one that is turned on little?? I have the idea stuck in my head that a disk on all day = problems, I don't know why but I think it.

Best regards.

[cobito]

@Praimus:

It seems that the energy mode thing works, I activated it for 10 minutes and after a while when I try to access the directory it takes a little while.

Is there any way to know if they are really stopped or not?, any software that tells you?

How bad is it to really leave a disk spinning 24/7?? apart from the fact that the hour counter grows quickly? is it likely to die sooner than one that is turned on little by little?? I have the idea stuck in my head that a disk turned on all day = problems, I don't know why but I think it.

Best regards.

My experience is that I have had more problems with disks that I have given normal use in desktop PCs than with disks that have been running 24h.

[Praimus]

@cobito:

My experience is that I have had more problems with disks that I have given normal use on desktop PCs than with disks that have been running 24 hours a day.

Oki, well thank you very much.

[Bm4n]

Having a dozen disks spinning consumes, generates heat and is more hours of wear; although not as much as if it were in read/write, but it seems unnecessary. The shutdown of the disks is configured in the power management, if something is accessing them you can check it in the resource monitor, and you can always eject the volume when you do not use it manually or even perhaps it can be programmed in the task scheduler.

To have a disk working 24h a green is not the best, there are disks that are manufactured for that of different prices, in WD you have the RED or in the professional range the SE and RE. But in your case the disk that has that supposed server (you do not explain which one…) is an SSD the rest can be turned off.

[Praimus]

@Bm4n:

Having a dozen disks spinning consumes, generates heat and are more hours of wear; although not as much as if it were in read/write, but it seems unnecessary. The shutdown of the disks is configured in the power management, if something is accessing them you can check it in the resource monitor, and you can always eject the volume when you don't use it manually or even perhaps it can be programmed in the task scheduler.

To have a disk working 24h a green is not the best, there are disks that are manufactured for that of different prices, in WD you have the RED or in the professional range the SE and RE. But in your case the disk that has that supposed server (you don't explain which one…) is an SSD the rest can be turned off.

Hello the greens belong to a volume mounted with FlexRaid which only stores, it is 23h a day at rest and since I have activated it in the power manager I think they turn off.

It is a HomeServer, if except for the system disk and a raid 5 the rest can be turned off.

Best regards.

[Bm4n]

Of course, that's why I say, it's silly to have that "datacenter" on for nothing out of pure curiosity how many TB is porn? because 14 discs…

Best regards

[Praimus]

@Bm4n:

Claro, por eso digo, que es tontería tener ese "datacenter" encendido para nada por pura curiosidad cuantos TB son de porno? porque 14 discos…

Saludos

Ya… pero es que le estoy dando trabajos al equipo el cual me obliga a tenerlo encendido 24/7 lo cual implica que los green estén encendido 24/7, por eso la pregunta jejeje, la idea de dejarlos encendido todo el tiempo no me agrada, pero si me dicen que no va a suponer que fallen....

35T usables y 8T de paridad, mucho porno xD

Por cierto, te importaría darme un poco mas de información sobre esto?

"siempre puedes expulsar el volumen cuando no lo uses manualmente o incluso quizás se pueda programar en el task scheduler."

[Bm4n]

@Praimus:

Ya… pero es que le estoy dando trabajos al equipo el cual me obliga a tenerlo encendido 24/7 lo cual implica que los green estén encendido 24/7, por eso la pregunta jejeje, la idea de dejarlos encendido todo el tiempo no me agrada, pero si me dicen que no va a suponer que fallen...."

Como ya comentamos que tengas el ordenador encendido no implica que los discos vayan a estar funcionando, es decir lo lógico es tenerlos apagados con el ahorro de energía si realmente no los usas.
@Praimus:

Por cierto, te importaría darme un poco mas de información sobre esto?
"siempre puedes expulsar el volumen cuando no lo uses manualmente o incluso quizás se pueda programar en el task scheduler."

No se si te sabre explicar porque no uso Windows desde hace un tiempo, pero puedes dejar un volumen sin acceso desmontado lo, igual que haces con un disco USB antes de desenchufar dando al botón de expulsar. Aquí tienes los comandos: Mountvol y se supone que en el "programador de tareas" podrías programar que a determinada hora ejecutara un comando para desmontar el volumen y a otra lo montase.

Por ejemplo, ponte en el caso de que tienes un antivirus que analiza información cada media hora en esos discos que quieres tener durmiendo, y no puedes modificar en antivirus, lo que podrías hacer es un comando para que a la 1AM expulse el volumen dejándolo inaccesible y a las 10PM lo monte para que vuelva a estar disponible.

También puedes hacerlo manualmente, no es tan cómodo como usar el ahorro de energía pero si no logras que funcione es la opción que te queda.