GTX 780ti or GTX Titan
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Thanks for replying, colleagues. Looking at elp3's experience, the "old" Titan seems like a better alternative, even better than the 780ti jaja.
I have a corsair h100, and with good ambient temperature, more than 25 degrees easily, the hottest core I have is at 65 degrees at 4.8 ghz, after an hour of bf4 multi player.
Let's see if I have more opinions and I'll decide.
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The easiest thing is that if ELP3 had the option of 780Ti and Titan would have stayed with the Ti, same with Jotole, they bought the Titan when it was the only one and it was much more powerful than what was on the market.
With the current options it's easier that they would have chosen another one, then if the old Titan allows you to do the trick of raising the voltage quite a lot, but you will need very good cooling, you won't be able to put in so much voltage if you don't have a good RL.
The thing about vram, there are games that have memory losses, that's why 6Gb doesn't guarantee that it will run well, example Watch Dogs, Hitman, MOH if you put the patch with supersampling.
Anyway if you want Vram you already have cards like these.
EVGA GeForce GTX 780 SuperClocked ACX 6GB GDDR5 06G-P4-3787-KR Graphics Card
That EVGA is very likely to support the zawarudo thing and allow you to put in voltage just like the Titans, although now the most advisable thing is to spend little and wait to see what comes out new in the 800 series, there's a Fake on the internet of a possible GM210 which is a lie because if they release something it would be a GM204, it's impossible that it's Maxwell and they say 375W TDP, but that's not something I don't think it will take long to see the new one for real and then compare.Regards
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Thanks for replying fjavi. I have read several times that elp3 prefers the old titans over the 780ti and the titan black.
The 780ti have improved and now show their full potential with the current drivers or is it still like before where there was barely any difference at equal clocks with the old titans?
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Thanks for replying fjavi. I have read on several occasions that elp3 prefers the old titans over the 780ti and the titan black.
The 780ti have improved and now show their full potential with the current drivers or does it still perform like before where there was barely any difference at equal clocks with the old titans?
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He prefers them because he already has them, he won't change a Titan for a 780Ti, well in his case there are 4, but when buying if he didn't have any he would surely buy 4 Ti, the savings are important and in the end they will perform similarly.
He plays at 2560x1600, maybe the case of Jotole who has 3 monitors of 2560x1440 maybe 6Gb of memory would be good for him, although right now he could put 4 780s with 6GB for the price of two Titans, a bit more expensive the 4 but they will perform much better.
The Titans are very expensive and when they came out there could be justification because they were the only ones with GK110 but now not anymore, as soon as they release the Ti with 6GB if they don't go too high on the vine the Titans will only be bought by those who think they can take advantage of those DP calculations.The thing with ELP3 is logical with 4 Titans that can increase voltage he won't sell them to buy others that will perform similarly, for that he waits for something to come out where he sees a clear gain in performance.
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While you stay with 1080p I don't see the need for change, if you had a 1600 monitor I would choose any of the 2 and if you had a 2160p I would go for a graphics card with 4 GB or more I wouldn't settle for something with 3GB.
Although my opinion is that if you don't change the monitor wait for the 20nm GTX 800 I think those graphics cards will be suitable for 4K resolutions.
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While you stay with 1080p I don't see the need for change, if you had a 1600 monitor I would choose any of the 2 and if you had a 2160p I would go for a graphics card with 4 GB or more I wouldn't settle for something with 3GB.
Although my opinion is that if you don't change the monitor wait for the 20nm GTX 800 I think those graphics cards will be suitable for 4K resolutions.
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Well if it were me I would wait with their graphics card until the new ones come out, if they don't convince them with the new ones they will have to start lowering the prices of the previous ones.
Maybe they will put them a little cheaper than the 680 when they come out, after all they will continue to produce the GM204 which will be mid-range, and the same will cost less and should perform somewhat better.
there was a news that said they would be cheaper although until I see it on the street I don't believe it.regards
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Well, it would be better to hold out with its graphics until the new ones come out, if the new ones don't convince you, you'll have to start downloading the old ones.
Maybe they'll make them a little cheaper than the 680 when they come out, after all, they're going to keep producing the GM204, which will be mid-range, and they might cost less and should perform a little better.
there was a news that said they would be cheaper, but I won't believe it until I see it on the street.regards
If at this point I would wait until October for the GTX 880, which seems to be almost confirmed.-
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If at this point you would wait until October for the GTX 880 that seems to be almost confirmed already.-
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I will repeat the trick, I do not buy a GM204, until they release the high end I want nothing.
Besides if it continues to be 28nm I do not think we will see any miracle in performance.If you buy it should be either in 20nm or in 16nm, which is where you should really see a greater leap in performance.
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It's that, that I don't know when the top of the range is going to come out, because it seems to me that what comes out in these months is the "medium" chip.
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I will repeat the play, I won't buy a GM204, until they release the high-end I don't want anything.
Besides, if it's still 28nm I don't think we'll see any miracle in performance.If you have to buy it should be either in 20nm or 16nm, which is where you should really see a major performance jump.
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If that's true the one that comes out is the GTX 880 at 28nm I doubt it will be inferior to a Titan or a GTX 780 Ti if you need to buy I think it's not a bad option.
I know I'll wait for the 16/20 nm at least until these GTX 880 cost $350 but we know that's not going to happen.
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It's that, that we don't know when the top of the range will come out, because I think what comes out in these months is the "medium" chip.
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It is said that the 16nm come out in Q1 2015 but the GTX 880 will be a good alternative depending on what you currently have, for 1080p it would be more than enough.
I am currently playing at 2160p with a Titan it may falter in some game but I don't feel it's a hindrance.
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It's that, I don't know when the high-end model will be released, because I think what comes out in these months is the "mid-range" chip.
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We won't see the high-end model until late next year or early the following year, depending on the competition, but it's very likely they'll do the same as with the GK110.
It's even very possible that the first GM210 will be another Titan, with a crazy price, although later they will launch the GTX 980 and other models.I think the 880 will be close to the 780Ti, not much more, and possibly cheaper, something like the 9800GTX, compared to the 8800GTX, depending on how the GM204 performs, but in 28nm they might make that move.
I don't believe the rumors about semi-accurate, that they'll move to 16nm is not credible because the wait could be long.regards
If that's true, the GTX 880 at 28nm is released, I doubt it will be inferior to a Titan or a GTX 780 Ti if you need to buy, I think it's not a bad option.
I know I'll wait for the 16/20 nm at least that these GTX 880 cost $350 but we know that's not going to happen.
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I don't think it will be inferior, but they'll play the card of better consumption, that it's cheaper, which in reality wouldn't be cheaper, they'll be giving mid-range renamed as high-end.
But it's very possible that it will be cheaper, they no longer have an excuse that the process is expensive, and many people know about Kepler, so what they'll do is something similar to what happened with 8800GTX and 9800GTX, or what happened with GF110 and GK104, only this time it might be cheaper than the 680 when it comes out.
They'll tell us they're very good at consumption, they'll highlight their new technology, but performance I don't think it will be exaggerated compared to a 780Ti.The curious thing is that people then fight for NVIDIA or AMD and in recent years it seems like they make a pact to divide the market and not coincide in releases, so there's little competition.
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I don't think it will be inferior, but they will play the card of better consumption, that it is cheaper, which in reality would not be cheaper is that they will be giving renowned mid-range as high-end.
But it is very possible that it will be cheaper, they no longer have an excuse that the process is expensive, and many people already know about Kepler, that's why what they will do is something similar to what happened with 8800GTX and 9800GTX, or what happened with GF110 and GK104, only that this time perhaps it will be cheaper than the 680 when it comes out.
They will tell us that they are very good in consumption, they will highlight their new technology, but I don't think the performance will be exaggerated compared to a 780Ti.The curious thing is that people then fight for nvidia or AMD and in recent years it seems that they make a pact to divide the market and not coincide in the launches, so there is little competition.
RegardsI suppose they must be at 15-20% above the 780 TI, it will still be an advance, being 3 months I think it is worth waiting more knowing that they would also improve in consumption and perhaps price.
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I guess they should be at 15-20% over the 780 TI, it will also be an improvement, being 3 months, I think it's worth waiting more knowing that they would also improve in consumption and perhaps price.
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Depending on how they do it, but up to 30% they could get out, anyway, now there are rumors of a GM200 with 4000SP at 28nm, people don't realize that this is impossible.
If Kepler has 2880SP and Kepler's SP occupy less space, I don't know how they will fit 4000 in 28nm, if it's true that nvidia is preparing a GM200 for mid-2015, also with 512 bits and 4000SP it must be 20nm, in 600mm it doesn't fit that much SP with 28nm.They will be rumors even though they put it as if they are sending it.
http://videocardz.com/51032/nvidia-maxwell-gm200-spotted-new-gtx-titan-ii-core
these from videocardz are already like gossip, it's incredible that news, especially in 28nm in 20nm if it's more possible.regards
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Depending on how they do it, but up to 30% they could get out, anyway now there are rumors of a GM200 with 4000SP at 28nm, people don't realize that this is impossible.
If Kepler has 2880SP and Kepler's SPs take up less space I don't know how they're going to fit 4000 in 28nm, if it's true that nvidia is preparing a GM200 for mid-2015, also with 512 bits and 4000SP it must be 20nm, in 600mm it doesn't fit that much SP with 28nm.They will be rumors even though they put it as if they are sending it.
http://videocardz.com/51032/nvidia-maxwell-gm200-spotted-new-gtx-titan-ii-core
these from videocardz are already like gossip, it's incredible that news, especially in 28nm in 20nm if it's more possible.regards
If I had read the news, in another source they also publish that the cost of the chip only without pcb would be $ 370 and it would be 50% more than a Titan Black
But we are talking about almost 1 year let's see how it turns out.-
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If you had read the news, another source also published that the cost of the chip alone without pcb would be $ 370 and would be 50% more than a Titan Black
But we are talking about almost 1 year let's wait to see how it turns out.-
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But that's a lie, they can't do that in 28nm, it would have to be a bigger chip than the ones Nvidia made and even then perhaps by those dates it could do it in 20nm.
These are the typical rumors that are invented like that of the fermi that would be double that of a 295, they said 200%, it was incredible.
Just like the one that says Nvidia will skip 20nm and wait for 16nm, it is unlikely because if they still can't manufacture in 20nm, waiting for 16nm could take too long.
Unless they reach an agreement with Samsung to manufacture the chips with TSMC I think it's difficult.Regards
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But that's a lie, they can't do that in 28nm, it would have to be a bigger chip than the ones Nvidia made and even then maybe by that time it could do it in 20nm.
These are the typical rumors that are invented like that of the fermi that would be double that of a 295, they said 200%, it was incredible.
Just like the one that says Nvidia will skip 20nm and wait for 16nm, it's not very believable because if they can't even manufacture in 20nm, waiting for 16nm could take too long.
Unless they reach an agreement with Samsung to manufacture the chips with TSMC, I think it's difficult.Regards
If it's true we just have to wait until November to see what these GTX 870 / 880 in 28nm turn out to be and then in 2015 see how the 20nm pieces move? or how they're supposed to be 14/16 nm with some company competitor of TSMC.-
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If it's true we just have to wait until November to see what these GTX 870 / 880 in 28nm turn out to be and then in 2015 see how the 20nm pieces move? or how it's supposed to be 14/16 nm with some company competitor of TSMC.-
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I don't think we have to wait that long, because what they're really going to release is this GM204, today it seems that Nvidia presents something that may be that GM204 and surely also the Shield Tablet.
http://videocardz.com/51078/nvidia-geforce-gtx-880-arrives-gamescom
It seems something more powerful than the 780Ti and it's the mid-range and in 28nm, almost certainly they would also release an 870Gtx something faster than the 780Ti, but above all cheaper.
SOMETHING DEFINITIVE IS COMING | NVIDIA
easy that by mid-August they release those GM204.Saludos
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I don't think we need to wait that long, because what they're really going to release is this GM204, today it seems that Nvidia presents something that could be that GM204 and surely also the Shield Tablet.
http://videocardz.com/51078/nvidia-geforce-gtx-880-arrives-gamescom
It seems something more powerful than the 780Ti and it's the mid-range and in 28nm, almost for sure they would also release an 870Gtx a bit faster than the 780Ti, but above all cheaper.
SOMETHING DEFINITIVE IS COMING | NVIDIA
it's easy that by mid-August they release those GM204.Regards
If they already started speculating about its performance on one side they talk about 25% more than a GTX 780 Ti on another 35-40% over a GTX 780.
It's not bad for a 28nm gpu although for those of us who are already in 2160p we need more power I think that in 20nm it could hit the nail on the head.
It's also incredible that practically shortly after 4K appears the graphics approach good performance at 60 fps, when for 1600p several years passed even with SLI it was hard to achieve it.
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If speculation has already begun about its performance on one side they talk about 25% more than a GTX 780 Ti on another 35-40% over a GTX 780.
It's not bad for a 28nm gpu although for those of us already at 2160p we need more power I think that at 20nm it could hit the nail on the head.
It's also incredible that practically shortly after 4K appears graphics are approaching good performance at 60 fps, when for 1600p several years passed even with SLI it was hard to achieve it.-
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The capture is confusing, there are people who looking at the crossed out part take out the Geforce 88, but I don't know if it will be real because those GPU score ratings have been taken out by Jotole and ELP3 with their Titan, although at more than 1400mhz.
the 4770K is at series frequency although it can be manipulated, if that were real and it gives that GPU score with a 4770K without OC it should perform well, although 3dmark is not reliable but with how important the CPU usually is in 3dmark, if the graphics gave that as standard it would perform well, always counting that in the end they are cheaper than the 680 when they come out.All that would be missing is that they were also good at overclocking like the 750Ti, but the key will be the price, the normal thing is that they are 4Gb of memory, although until a more reliable rumor is seen that can be manipulated with a Titan raised or a 780Ti, although it will need 1400mhz or something close and more OC to the CPU.
What you should do is wait for 20 or 16nm, because the top chip of the range should come out and refreshes of those 8x0, and it's easy to happen as with the 770 that they end up being better and cheaper than the first GK104.
although according to why they could put as an excuse that the process is expensive, and bring out something better but maintaining the price.Regards
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The capture is confusing, some people look at the crossed out part and think it's a GeForce 88, but I'm not sure if it's real because those GPU score ratings have been coming from Jotole and ELP3 with their Titan, although at more than 1400mhz.
The 4770K is at series frequency although it can be manipulated, if that were real and it gives that GPU score with a 4770K without OC it should perform well, although 3dmark is not reliable but with how important the CPU usually is in 3dmark, if the graphics card gave that as standard it would perform well, always counting that in the end they are cheaper than the 680 when they come out.All that's missing is that they are also good at OCing like the 750Ti, but the key will be the price, the normal thing is that they will be 4Gb of memory, although until we see a more reliable rumor that can be manipulated with a Titan raised or a 780Ti, although it will need 1400mhz or something close and more OC to the CPU.
You should wait for 20 or 16nm, because the top chip should come out and refreshes of those 8x0, and it's easy to happen as with the 770 that they end up being better and cheaper than the first GK104.
although according to why they could put as an excuse that the process is expensive, and bring out something better but maintaining the price.Regards
If I really should wait for the 16nm, but what I prioritize is that it has HDMI 2.0 and if the price is relatively good in the GTX 880 and they bring out the GTX 780 a 35% as they say maybe I'll even end up with an SLI that's my country never knows how things will go more so when you're on the tightrope.-
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If it really is worth waiting for the 16nm, but what I prioritize is that it has HDMI 2.0 and if the price is relatively good on the GTX 880 and they release the GTX 780 a 35% as they say perhaps I might even end up with an SLI, it's that my country never knows how things will go but I'm on the tightrope.-
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Do you want HDMI 2 to connect to the TV?
The 35% thing I see as a bit complicated, because it's still 28nm, I think they will be a little more powerful but cheaper, better consumption and temperature, although the latter depends on the SPs they put in
If they put in about 2500SPs it should be a little more powerful but would need a larger DIE than a 770 or 680.Anyway I think they won't take long to release some better ones, when they can manufacture at 20nm or less.
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