First tests of Nvidia's 980 and 970
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The Gigabyte does have HDMI 2, anyway they are lowering the 780 quite a bit.
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 780 Windforce rev2.0 3GB GDDR5 GV-N780WF3-3GD Graphics Card
http://xtremmedia.com/Gainward_GeForce_GTX_780_Phantom_3Gb_Gddr5.htmlIf they keep lowering the price I'll buy another one, even though the new technologies that the 900 series bring are good, but they keep going up, because there's a lot of demand and a 780 is still a great card.
At least the market is getting a bit more active with offers.
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Apparently the MSi would be the only one with HDMI 1.4a :ugly: I think it's fine if you can get another GTX 780 at a good price even at 4K it would go very well.
Salu2
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Apparently the MSi would be unique with HDMI 1.4a :ugly: I think it's fine if you can get another GTX 780 at a good price even at 4K it would work very well.-
Salu2
Well I think that for 1080p the SLI of 780 is exaggerated, I prefer a 970 to put it in the living room, there I remove the 480, I want HDMI also to see if I can get some games and movies in 3D, anyway the television is HDMI 1.4 and I wouldn't take advantage of HDMI 2, but since the case is not one of those that have very good ventilation then the less it consumes and the less heat to dissipate the better, I gain silence and I will gain a lot in temperature, which could serve me to overclock the CPU more.
But SLI I think is already for resolutions 2560x1440 as a minimum, for 1080p one is very good, two already seems like a lot to me, because I play everything with very high details with just one.
saludos
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Between a 780Ti that does 1250mhz and a 970GTX, I wonder which one would overclock better if the change comes out to 100e, which one would be better or perform more? Is it to be expected that the performance of the TI with its less GB will drop in terms of future games? Or is it better to save my money and keep my 780GTX and wait for the next generation or a future 980ti?
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Between a 780Ti that does 1250mhz and a 970GTX with who knows what overclock if the change costs me 100e which one is better or would perform more? Is it expected that the performance of the TI with its less GB will drop for future games? Or is it better to save my money and my 780GTX and wait for the next generation or a future 980ti?
I wouldn't change for anything, I wouldn't change even the 780, maybe the 970 is a little more powerful, but I think it's a pittance what I can gain.
I would certainly wait until February or March when the 20nm ones seem to be out, although I know what they release in 20nm is going to be expensive, but it's also possible that there will be more competition, if it's about waiting I don't mind doing it with a 780 than with a 970.I don't see a problem with Vram with a 780 or 780Ti, if they were two or three and I played at 2560x1600 maybe it would be a bigger problem, but with one I doubt it a lot and much less playing at 1080p.
I know one doesn't have the power to put 4x of SSAA, or things like that and that's why I think 3 GB is fine.
saludos
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I wouldn't change for anything, I wouldn't even change the 780, maybe the 970 is a little more powerful, but I think what I can gain is a pittance.
I would certainly wait until February or March when the 20nm ones seem to be coming out, although I know that what they release in 20nm is going to be expensive, but it's also possible that there will be more competition, if it's about waiting I don't mind doing it with a 780 or a 970.I don't see a problem with Vram with a 780 or 780Ti, if they were two or three and I played at 2560x1600 maybe it would be a bigger problem, but with one I doubt it a lot and much less playing at 1080p.
I know that one doesn't have the power to put 4x of SSAA, or things like that and that's why I think 3 GB is fine.
regards
No, that change doesn't make sense. Even in my case and starting from a weaker GTX 770 to the GTX 970 (the one that for price could interest me), the gain although visible is not a big deal to rush out and change the graphics card (+33%).
This new family of graphics "excites" me, because I also really liked what I saw with the small GM107, and I was eager to see performance chips based on Maxwell. There are also extra advantages like all the technological novelties (MFAA, DSR, new video encoder, improvements in many areas, 4 GB of VRAM, etc), which starting from a GTX 770 seem more interesting than from a GTX 780, which is very close in many areas.
But of course, one thing is what logic says, I have an internal rule that estimates that for the visual improvement between two graphics cards to be clear, they must be a minimum of what the more powerful one gets out of the previous one of 50% of performance, this allows being able to activate a series of effects or improvements in AA or resolution, enough, to improve the visual quality clearly, maintaining the same fps rate, the rule speaks of that minimum but the optimal is to double the power, where the advantages are numerous and numerous (not only can you improve the quality a lot, but you can also improve the fps rate).
The 33% average that a GTX 970 gets is not enough (yes what the 980 gets), even so, if you counted the OC seeing how well they go up, you could raise that percentage, but I doubt it up to 50% from an OC vs OC point of view (probably 40%).
Even said the above, which is the rational and logical, I think the "passionate" part and the improvement is enough to be appreciable, and of longer duration. But speaking strictly logically, said change is not profitable. Less with a GTX 780.
Although in these forums many times it's not about doing what is more logical, but what fills you the most as a user passionate about new technologies. Or not?
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No, no tiene sentido ese cambio. Incluso en mi caso y partiendo desde una más floja GTX 770 a la que la GTX 970 (la que por precio me podría interesar), la ganancia aunque ya visible tampoco es una barbaridad para salir a cambiar corriendo la gráfica (+33%).
A mí esta nueva familia de gráficas me "emociona", porque además me gustó mucho lo que ví con la pequeña GM107, y tenía ganas de ver chips prestacionales basados en Maxwell. Hay además ventajas extras como todas las novedades tecnológicas (MFAA, DSR, nuevo codificador de vídeo, mejoras en multitud de apartados, los 4 GB de VRAM, etc), que partiendo de una GTX 770 se ven más interesantes que desde una GTX 780, la cual está muy cerca en multitud de apartados.
Pero claro, una cosa es lo que diga la lógica, tengo una regla interna que estima que para que sea clara la mejora visual entre dos gráficas, deben ser un mínimo lo que le saca la más potente a la anterior de un 50% de rendimiento, esto permite poder activar una serie de efectos o mejoras en AA o resolución, suficientes, para mejorar la calidad visual de forma clara, manteniendo la misma tasa de fps, la regla habla de ese mínimo pero lo óptimo es duplicar la potencia, donde las ventajas son nutridas y numerosas (no sólo se puede mejorar bastante la calidad, sino que además se puede mejorar la tasa de fps).
El 33% de media que obtiene una GTX 970 no es suficiente (sí lo que obtiene la 980), aún así, si se contara el OC visto lo bien que suben, podría subir dicho porcentaje, pero dudo que hasta el 50% de un punto de vista de OC vs OC (seguramente un 40%).
Aún dicho lo anterior, que es lo racional y lógico, creo que la parte "pasional" y la mejora es suficiente como para ser apreciable, y de mayor duración. Pero hablando de forma estrictamente lógica, no renta dicho cambio. Menos con una GTX 780.
Aunque en estos foros muchas veces no se trata de hacer lo que sea más lógico, sino lo que más llena como usuario apasionado de las nuevas tecnologías. ¿O no?
A mi me gusta lo del DSR, pero con una 780 que tampoco es mala en OC, no veo que me compense, espero a otras que me supongan una mayor ganancia, o quiza si bajan las 970 y veo un SLI barato.
Pero viendo como esta la cosa lo dudo por que son vistas y no vistas y no paran de subir, hay mas demanda que oferta y asi es difícil que puedan bajar.
saludos
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Thanks for your feedback. I'll save my money for the next generation. DSR is not available for the 780, correct me if I'm wrong.
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Thanks for your feedback. I'll save my money for the next generation. DSR is not available for the 780, correct me if I'm wrong.
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DSR no, but maybe with the next ones they'll release another new technology, if it doesn't run 1080p with 4xSSAA, I don't think it could with DSR and a 970.
Regards
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The DSR no, but perhaps with the next ones they will release another new technology, if it doesn't move 1080p with 4xSSAA, I think it also wouldn't be possible with DSR and a 970.
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It does seem that it will come out, for the Keplers in theory. After all, it is a pure soft technique, or if not, almost (perhaps the final downsampling is done with hard, but it is a trivial matter to perform via shaders, besides having dedicated 2D hard the graphics, including a resolution scaler).
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Waiting for new news about that functionality for the previous Keplers. Does the next high-end generation know more or less how much ram they will carry? 6-8 gb?
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Yes, it seems like it will come out, for the Keplers in theory. After all, it's a pure soft technique, or if not, almost (maybe the final downsampling is done with hard, but it's a trivial matter to do via shaders, besides having dedicated 2D hard graphics, including a resolution scaler).
Let's see if it's true and it works, although if it does by software it will ask for more and will lack power, but with SLI it will be easier.
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@Piccolo:Waiting for new news about that functionality for previous Keplers. Does the next high-end generation know more or less how much ram they will carry? 6-8 gb?
No idea although it's easy that they are 384 bits and should have 6Gb, I refer to a GM200 or 210, maybe they will release a refresh of these GM204, like it happened between the 680 and 770 and it's easy that they continue with 4gb models and maybe some special 8gb from some assembler.
The easiest thing is that the high range has 6GB, I refer to GTX not to Titan models or things like that, it would be 50% more than this GM204, just like it happened between the 2Gb of the 680 and the 3Gb of 780 and 780Ti.regards
