I5 2500K + GTX 980 bottleneck?

[juajuajuajuanra]

Hello everyone!!!

I have an I5 2500K + 8GB + GTX 580 since early 2011 and I was considering a computer change but, correct me if I'm wrong because I've been disconnected, looking at charts from tomshardware it seems that in the almost 4 years that have passed not much has advanced in the processor area and I thought that maybe, with the micro I have, I could only change the graphics card, a GTX 780 or a GTX 980

what do you think? do these graphics require better processors or can I keep the processor I have and still notice a big change?

Thank you very much
Regards

[Bm4n]

The first thing is the graphics, it is true that depending on the game it can limit the maximum fps a little but I think the 2500k has a good performance for any current game and in the future you will already update the CPU when you need it.

[Fassou]

I think juajuajuajuanra should update the signature :troll:

You have a very useful micro through OC, and although in some tasks the new models are better optimized (video, virtualization, etc...) in games, we still make little use of multi-threading so you can be calm with yours.

Personally, investing in something more expensive than a GTX970 seems like too much, but everyone's budget is what it is.

Although it might be a good idea to put 16GB of memory, I suppose you are already thinking about moving to the new platform with DDR4 in 2015 :mudo:

Salu2!

[juajuajuajuanra]

Thanks to both of you for the info... and yes, hehe, it's true, I'll see if I update the signature ;D;D;D

To clarify a bit more, would it be crazy to put the 980 on it without overclocking the processor? I won't lie to you, the E6600 ended my desire to "geek around", it was a success, but I don't have the time or desire to dedicate myself to OC and I've become very, very comfortable.

[Bm4n]

Man at 2500 without touching much you can overclock it to 4GHz, if not, either way it's better that you buy the graphics card you like and then if you need it you'll put a new CPU, now in 2015 a new architecture comes out if not a 5820k.

[rul3s]

@Bm4n:

You can overclock a 2500 without touching much to 4GHz, but in any case, it's better that you buy the graphics card you want and then if you need it, you'll put a new CPU, now in 2015 a new architecture is coming out, otherwise a 5820k.

Without touching much, no, rather without touching anything, at least mine goes up to 4.4 without touching voltage, so setting it to 4GHz is just raising the multiplier, 10 seconds once you're in the bios, and you don't need to touch anything else.

Best regards!

[Magog]

I still use the i7-920 at 3.8 GHz and now I have it with an R9 290. I don't rule out that the processor will know a new GPU, it is more than capable of moving everything to the resolution that my monitor has 1920x1200.

Un saludo.

[Sylver]

@Rules:

Without touching much no, rather without touching anything, at least mine goes up to 4.4 without touching voltage, so setting it to 4GHz is just about raising the multiplier, 10 seconds once you enter the bios, and you don't need to touch anything else.

Best regards!

I vouch for this Mine also does it without touching voltage.
The problem with mine is that at 4.7Ghz the temperature skyrockets to 90º in tests like Linx, and that's not good at all, especially considering the big heatsink it has, which is not an RL but does great things, it's proven :ugly:

Spoiler offtopic for you Rules

! How the heck did you overclock it to 5'4Ghz by air without dying in the attempt? (temperature-wise speaking :ugly: )

Best regards!

[juajuajuajuanra]

Many thanks to everyone for encouraging me!!! I have left it at 4.5GHz and it seems to be stable with FarCry4

[rul3s]

@Sylver:

Spoiler offtopic for you Rules

! How the hell did you overclock it to 5'4Ghz by air without dying in the attempt? (thermally speaking :ugly: )

With an Antec Twelve Hundred + Noctu NHu12, I also admit that I got a good piece :troll:

Best regards!

@juajuajuajuanra:

Many thanks to all for encouraging me!!! I've left it at 4.5GHz and it seems stable with FarCry4

You see!! That's what we're here for! ;D

[Sylver]

@Rules:

You see!! That's what we're for! ;D

Of course it came out almost golden brown :smirk:

I'm surprised that with the NH-D14 I reach 90º so soon… but I'll get my revenge, I'm about to mount car radiator fans or something like that, crazy :ugly:

Greetings!

[juajuajuajuanra]

@Bm4n:

The first thing is the graphics card, it's true that depending on the game it can limit the maximum fps a little but I think the 2500k has good performance for any current game and in the future you will update the CPU when you need it.

Hello everyone again,

First of all, thank you all once again for advising me in this "advance" to the final decision ;D;D;D

Seeing that I am not selling the complete computer and that the breakdown is almost insulting me (they offer me for the GTX 580 the same as the ACCELERO cooler I put on it, 75e) I was thinking that maybe I will resume this topic and get more life out of the computer, who knows, maybe one more year.

The two options I have considered:

1.- Would it be crazy to buy another 580 and set up SLI? Do the cards have to be of the same brand? I would also have to buy a new power supply, I have read that an SLI of 580 GTX requires 900w and in other places that it requires 1200w. And I say "crazy" because I have as a reference that DYING LIGHT choked the other day and maybe with an SLI it will keep choking hehe

2.- Do I buy the 970 for this computer and when I retire this computer I build one from scratch with the 970 or even an SLI of 970? For sure, would you buy a "refurbished" graphics card? (as long as the store offers the corresponding warranty, of course)

I already know that I could almost answer myself... buy the 970, but as it hurts me to sell something that cost me 650e, I prefer to listen to your opinion

Thanks once again!!!
GREETINGS!!!

PD: I am the type of person who puts games at maximum or almost, if I can't, I wait to have a computer to play them, I am that picky

[whoololon]

Remember that SLI/CrossFire doesn't work miracles.
Buying another 580, no matter how much OC you put into the system, won't give you more than a 760 and certainly not a 970 (watch out for the GTX 970).

The "refurbished" thing, if the price is low enough, it makes sense to go for it.

I agree with Bm4n. I think that with a new graphics card (and a 128 GB SSD, which costs around 50 €), and knowing that there are many people here who know how to overclock your PC, you could stretch that machine for another couple of years.

[Bm4n]

I don't buy refurbished unless they have a good percentage discount, I don't take the risk for a few euros. You're always going to sell graphics cards poorly, that's what devalues the most and the fastest. SLI is problematic in the end, it may be an economic option second-hand, but it's money lost. Upgrade the graphics card and you'll see what you do with the rest later.

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[amd125]

I would sell the 580 GTX that they will give you between 80-100€ no more, nothing of setting up an SLI with a card so old. I will feel sorry for you selling it so cheap, but the more you leave it the more you will lose.

Then look for a card that you like. Whether it's the 970 GTX or one from AMD in the same range.

[Javisoft]

I wouldn't get a 970, that straightforward XD. Inflated price and the vram performance will be affected with the release of new games/dx12. Besides, your equipment is not current, so the games that port textures directly to ram or do ramdisk (most of them) will be diminished in fps.
That's not to mention that depending on the game, you already have a bottleneck with the cpu even if you put it at 4.5 GHz (not in all cases).
A better option seems to me the 960 and save to change platform or if you are set on the 970, it should be for the same thing, changing pc in just over a year.
Regards.

[juajuajuajuanra]

@Javisoft:

I wouldn't get a 970, that straightforward XD. Inflated price and the vram performance will be affected with the release of new games/dx12. Besides, your equipment is not current, so games that port textures directly to ram or do ramdisk (most of them) will be diminished in fps.
That's not counting that depending on the game, you already have a bottleneck with the cpu even if you put it at 4.5 GHz (not in all cases).
A better option in my opinion is the 960 and saving to change platforms or if you're set on the 970, it should be for the same thing, changing your pc in just over a year.
Regards.

Thanks to all!!!

One thing Javisoft, I thought the problems with SLIs had been "overcome", but I read that generally people still say they give "trouble".

I see that you have a 780 Ti SLI, what's your opinion on SLIs? Do you have it because that specific SLI doesn't give problems? Or in the future would you bet again on another SLI? I'm saying this because my idea would be to do an SLI in the future with the card I buy now. That's why I would be able to buy up to a 980 even if I don't use it 100% and use it in the computer I build in the future... and later, build an SLI with another 980 that I would buy much cheaper second-hand.

Thanks!!!

[Javisoft]

The SLI works quite well, the drivers have improved in this aspect and the games and engines scale better with multiple graphics, in some case 100%.
I personally advise you not to spend so much money on a 980, firstly because it will not be utilized and secondly because the Titan X and the supposed 980ti will be released soon at a price that is equal or very close, do not forget that the 980 is a mid-range/high-end graphics card sold at a high-end price.
I would change the platform first, even if it is second-hand and then I would buy a graphics card. Best regards.

[juajuajuajuanra]

@Javisoft:

The SLI works pretty well, the drivers have improved in this aspect and the games and engines scale better with multiple graphics, in some case 100%.
I personally advise you not to spend so much money on a 980, first because it won't be fully utilized and second because the Titan X and the supposed 980ti will be released soon at a similar or very close price, don't forget that the 980 is a mid/high-end card sold at a high-end price.
I would change the platform first, even if it's second-hand and then get a graphics card. Regards.

Perfect, so I think I'll wait for now. Maybe I'll even look for a second-hand 960 if I see one around to hold out. I'm amazed, not only does it get 25%-33% more out of the 580 (normal) but an SLI of 960 can rival a 980. So it's better to wait for the true high-end range as you say.

Thanks!!!

[Zerglings]

@juajuajuajuanra:

Perfect, so then I think I'm going to wait for the moment. Maybe I'll even look for a second-hand 960 if I see one around to keep going. I'm blown away, not only does it get 25%-33% out of the 580 (normal) but an SLI 960 takes on a 980. So it's better to wait for the high-end for real as you say.

Thanks!!!

In fact, a gtx960 I think is equivalent to a gtx670.