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    • gamingpyG Desconectado
      gamingpy @whoololon
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      @whoololon:

      Well, it depends on what you're going to play.
      I think, as of today, the only thing you can play in 4K at 60 FPS is a number of titles that can be counted on the fingers of one hand, I'm talking about 3D games from the last 2 years.
      For the rest, there's everything: either they don't support such a resolution or at most they'll go to 30-40 FPS, maybe you'll reach 50 if you work hard and are lucky. Of course there will be some that run like a shot, but very few.
      Yes, I could tell you that by assembling a tri-SLI/CF with the most powerful GPU you can find (a CF with 2 295x2, if it really delivers what it promises) you could run Crysis 3 at full filters and details in 4K at 60 FPS... but not really.
      That said, the more filters and effects you remove, the cheaper the thing will be, but it would be like cheating at solitaire... by yourself.
      Honestly, I don't see it. :nono:

      You're right Whoololon, today there will be some games that support this resolution, my idea is actually to want to have a good machine and graphics for quite some time so that it lasts for a while without having to change the graphics and be prepared for 4k. Thanks for your comment, excellent by the way

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        amd125 Veteranos HL @gamingpy
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        I believe, as my colleagues have commented, that expecting to buy one or more graphics cards today to play at 60 stable frames in 4K, except on rare occasions, is not very feasible. A lot of power is needed to move 4K, and that for example an SLI of 970-980 GTX can move many games at that resolution, does not guarantee that in a short time the configuration will already be insufficient.

        AMD should make a move and release high-end graphics cards in a few months, but I still think the same. To move 4K at that frame rate, you need to go very, very far beyond the power. Without going into the financial outlay that has to be made for a graphics system like this, even if money were not a problem, the 4K resolution in general is still too big for current graphics cards. To maintain stable 60 frames without major drops, let's say that the graphics cards should be able to run the game at around 80-100 frames... that's even at lower resolutions, there are games that even with two graphics cards and activated filters you can't achieve it.

        The same thing happened when Full HD appeared. Many graphics cards moved games well at 720p but not at 1080p and it took a while to become a common resolution that graphics cards could move "easily"

        You have very good hardware, enjoy it at "more normal" resolutions because maybe the outlay to "try" to move 4K is very high and does not satisfy you.

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          fjavi @gamingpy
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          @gamingpy:

          You are right Whoololon today there will be some games that support this resolution my idea is really to want to have a good machine and graphics for quite some time so that I have for a while without having to change the graphics and be prepared for 4k. Thanks for your comment excellent by the way

          If you can hold on with the 780Ti I would do it seeing this.

          NVIDIA Maxwell GM200 pictured! | VideoCardz.com

          If that must be a Titan but some time later the GTX should come out and it will be annoying to buy any card now, that one seems much more capable for 4K.

          regards

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          • gamingpyG Desconectado
            gamingpy @fjavi
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            @fjavi:

            If you can hold out with the 780Ti I would do it seeing this.

            NVIDIA Maxwell GM200 pictured! | VideoCardz.com

            If that is supposed to be a Titan but a while later the GTXs should come out and it will be annoying to buy any card now, that one seems much more capable for 4K.

            regards

            Forgive me folks, I've been short on time lately which is why I haven't returned to the forum to write and present my ideas :ugly:

            Hi fjavi and everyone at the hardlimit forum, I wanted to ask you a question, in the end I couldn't hold out and I sold the graphics card I had. Right now I'm considering buying the gtx 980 because I think they are fresher than the graphics card I had and perform a little better.
            Among all the graphics card models in this series, I'm paying attention to two brands, one of them is the G1 from Gigabyte and another one in particular but not very mentioned perhaps due to lack of publicity but very mentioned in the American forums is the GALAX HOF gtx 980, the truth is it's very sexy xD besides that I see that the dissipation it comes with is much better than the gigabyte according to a simple glance, well for now that is my doubt, I don't know which of these two brands to choose since I've seen in reviews and benchmarks that the galax is the best of all even for OC since they come with a little higher frequencies.

            It's noticeable that the people at galax formerly called "galaxy" did a good job in creating those beasts of graphics cards, on top of that the finish they have, I mean the blackplate backplate designed for pcb dissipation is quite striking for its design and the quality of the material.
            I wanted to know what you guys think about this model of graphics card.

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              fjavi @gamingpy
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              @gamingpy:

              Forgive me, folks, I've been short on time lately, which is why I haven't returned to the forum to write and present my ideas :ugly:

              Hello fjavi and everyone at the hardlimit forum, I wanted to ask you something. In the end, I couldn't resist and sold the graphics card I had. Right now, I'm considering buying the gtx 980 because I think it's fresher than the graphics card I had and performs a little better.
              Among all the models of this series, I'm focusing on two brands: one of them is the G1 from Gigabyte and another one in particular, not very mentioned perhaps due to lack of publicity, but very mentioned in American forums is the GALAX HOF gtx 980. It's really sexy, to be honest xD. Besides that, I see that the cooling it comes with is much better than the Gigabyte's, at least from what I can see. Well, for now, that's my doubt. I don't know which of these two brands to choose since I've seen in reviews and benchmarks that the Galaxy is the best of all, even for OC since they come with slightly higher frequencies.

              It's clear that the people at Galaxy, formerly called "galaxy", did a good job creating those beasts of graphics cards. Moreover, the finish they have, I mean the blackplate on the back, designed for PCB dissipation, is quite striking because of the design and the quality of the material.
              I wanted to know what you think about this model of graphics card.

              Will the price influence it? I suppose the Galaxy will be more expensive. If the base frequency already exceeds 1300, this one with real boots will get close to 1500. These Galaxies seem chosen to put that frequency in, the others must be sold like KFA2. If these are the frequencies the website says, they seem like a scandal to me.
              GALAX - What's Your Game?

              I see reviews and they say lower frequency but the one I put in the link seems like a beast. If the price wasn't much higher than the Gigabyte, I would choose the Galaxy.

              Regards

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                gamingpy @fjavi
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                @fjavi:

                It will influence the price, I suppose the Galaxy will be more expensive, if the base frequency already exceeds 1300 that one with real boots will get close to 1500, these Galaxies seem chosen to put that frequency, the others should be sold as KFA2, if these are the frequencies that the website says I think they are scandalous.
                GALAX - What's Your Game?

                I see reviews and they say less frequency but the one I put in the link seems like a beast, if the price were not much higher than the Gigabyte, I would choose the Galaxy.

                Regards

                The truth is that according to the specifications of the page itself they would throw a much better clock than almost all if we compare this series with the other brands.

                I am in doubt since as I commented my idea is to build a sli but the issue is that I would not like to have inside the box two graphics that are well hot and that are running at cooking temperatures jaja, I do not know if the haf x will be enough in power to hold both custom graphics I think many prefer to save themselves the surprise and go directly for the reference ones even if the clocks are a little lower.

                On the other hand I am tempted to try an sli of the g1 of gigabyte but I have seen a topic that someone has built a gtx 470 if I remember correctly and they oscillated temperatures around 80 and 90 degrees in 30 minutes of games which I think is too much to have to sacrifice them in that way.

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                  whoololon Veteranos HL @gamingpy
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                  As they have already commented around here, the current layout of the graphics cards on the motherboard "invites" you to mount an RL if you have more than one.
                  This, along with other factors concerning the performance/price ratio, has made me think since day one that the whole SLI/CrossFire thing (until the appearance of the R9 295X2, whose design could have come out 5 years ago) has been nothing more than a mess to sell more graphics cards... but it's a personal opinion. And sorry for going off topic. ?

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                  • gamingpyG Desconectado
                    gamingpy @whoololon
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                    @whoololon:

                    As already commented around here, the current layout of the graphics cards on the motherboard "invites" to set up an RL if you have more than one.
                    This, along with other factors concerning the performance/price ratio, has made me think since day one that the whole SLI/CrossFire thing (until the R9 295X2 came out, whose design could have easily been released 5 years ago) has been nothing more than a mess to sell more graphics cards… but that's a personal opinion. And sorry for going off-topic. ?

                    Hello whoololon, the truth is that I have never set up an RL, although it would be a real achievement if I did, in the end I decided on the G1 from Gigabyte since I know nothing about the HOF, besides that I read somewhere that some people had problems with electronic noise, so those were negative points that made me decide against that particular graphics card. As for the design, it is beautiful indeed and has some clock speeds that, if they are real, would be a beast as fjavi said.

                    I hope the graphics card works out well for me and I don't have any problems with it in the future. I would like to set up an SLI with a decent monitor at 4k resolutions if possible with g-sync, but for now I will wait and enjoy the games at 1080p well and then we will see how it goes, since the prices are skyrocketing at the moment and it wouldn't be worth spending it like that as amd125 told me.

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                      fjavi @gamingpy
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                      @gamingpy:

                      The truth is that according to the specifications of the page itself, they would run at a much better clock than almost all if we compare this series with the other brands.

                      I am in doubt since as I commented, my idea is to build a sli but the issue is that I wouldn't like to have two hot graphics inside the case and running at cooking temperatures jaja, I don't know if the haf x will be enough to hold both custom graphics, I think many prefer to save themselves the surprise and go directly for the reference ones even if the clocks are a little lower.

                      On the other hand, I am tempted to try an sli of the g1 from gigabyte but I have seen a topic that someone has built a gtx 470 if I remember correctly and they were oscillating temperatures around 80 and 90 degrees in 30 minutes of games, which I think is too much to have to sacrifice them that way.

                      I would definitely go for the reference ones in 980, and much more if you are thinking of doing SLI, those reference ELP3 have had 4 of them and I did quite a bit of overclocking on them, the temperatures of those cards are nothing like the 470 or the 480, they have much lower temperatures.

                      You make a fan profile on those 980 and with SLI you get them to sound very little, that was impossible with an SLI of 470 or 480 and I have one and those are really hot, the 780 doesn't get anywhere near that hot and besides, it hardly makes a sound, the 980 should be similar, what changes in the Titan, and those 980 is that if you don't make a fan profile it won't accelerate until it reaches 80º, if you set the fan to go up to 60% when it passes 60º, I don't think you will ever reach 80º and I'm talking about the summers here which are very hot.
                      In 980 without a doubt for doing SLI the best is the reference one, the custom ones when you put two of them it's easy for one of them to reach a higher temperature than the two reference ones, it will also heat up more the CPU, the memory and the system won't be as agile.

                      saludos

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                        @fjavi:

                        In 980 without a doubt to do SLI the best is the reference one, the custom ones when you put two it's easy for one of them to reach more temperature than the two references, it will also heat up more your CPU, memory and the system won't be as agile.

                        regards

                        Well unfortunately I've already made my order fjavi ordered the g1 from gigabyte. In any case what I was also considering would be to put the config this way.

                        Put the additional fans that allow installing the haf x tower which would be more or less this config.

                        More or less this FAN I think it would work.

                        Opening the back PCIe plates so that in this way the hot air comes out from that area, I don't know if it will work but that's what comes to mind in any case xD.

                        The config would be mounted more or less like this, opting for the reference as the second card.

                        ;D

                        regards

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                          fjavi @gamingpy
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                          Try it first to see how it goes, if you only ordered one there is no problem and maybe you wouldn't have two either, they are not hot graphics, in that box maybe both have good temperature.

                          If you only ordered one and later you want another maybe it would be good to have one as a reference to put above, anyway maybe with these they don't get too hot even if they are both customized, there are people who have SLI of customized ones and they don't talk about bad temperature, that would be worse with hotter graphics, with these maybe it doesn't happen and if the one above gets hotter maybe the difference isn't that big.

                          The setup should be the other way around, the reference one above and the customized one below, the reference one higher than the other.

                          regards

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