My first RL
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Tables, fluid simulation, equations…my head is spinning.
I stick to air, I'm a humanities person.
Well, for the heat-pipes it's the same:
This is an extract of how to make a simulation for an air cooler and they compared it with the results of the real cooler experimentally. Specifically, it was simulated without airflow (natural convection) and for several flow rates between 1 and 4 m/s.
The purpose of the study is to obtain the variation of the thermal conductivity of the cooler by applying between 4 and 24W of power to the base in steps of 4 W… because thermal conductivity or efficiency always depends on the flow... like in RL
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Espineteenbolas muchisimas gracias por toda la informacion que me has facilitado.Eres un Crack!!
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Hello! I wanted to ask about the BARROW brand, I've searched the forum and haven't seen any posts.
I'm asking about the brand because I was given a Barrow brand flowmeter and I don't know if it's good or not, I see that it's the same as the Bitspower, which is the one I wanted to put in.
Thanks!
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Well a "Flow Meter"
… I don't know the brand but anything made of plexiglass/polycarbonate gives me the creeps... it's a very annoying material.Another problem is that I don't know the precision and working range of said apparatus so adding it to the circuit will only add restriction, reduce the flow rate and add more joints so in the end I don't think it's an element you should put in your circuit... it increases the probability of leaks and on top of that your circuit will necessarily have worse performance... not a huge deal but it depends a lot on the power of your pump and the overall restriction of the circuit.
In short, if your pump is just right for delivering a decent flow rate, it's better not to put it... if you have extra it will slow down but it will be slight.
To summarize even more, the fewer things the better.
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No idea about the brand, in all the years I've been around I haven't heard of it, not in watercooling nor in aquariofilia.
I'll look for info since you've left me intrigued XD.
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Thank you very much for answering, as always!
Yes, I imagine it's about making the pump's job harder, since I had been given it as a gift and I was hesitating, but I imagine that without it everything will go better.
I think I'd better focus on finishing this first RL and if in the future I do another one, then I'll put more power into the pumps and more aesthetic tweaks xD
I think it's some kind of copy of Bitspower
Thanks!
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By the way, try to look for radiators that come with a neoprene, silicone gasket or some way to seal the coupling between the radiator and the fan as standard, because otherwise it doesn't matter much what fan you put in and whether the configuration is push or pull or push/pull with fans of high hydrostatic pressure... because that pressure is lost in the gasket and therefore the cold flow that goes through the fins will be much less.
The latter is a very common mistake for beginners because people think that a fan is something that pushes air but the truth is that like a pump it is an element that generates a pressure differential between the inlet and outlet so the flow rate will never be the maximum it can give but the one that adjusts to the restriction or pressure drop produced by the fins-volume control of the air circuit... and if the gasket leaks the air circuit goes wrong... and things get worse as the fin density and the depth of the radiator increase, which are two parameters that when increased increase the performance but only if combined with adequate pumps and fans... and properly mounted
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Si señor, I second that 100%, :sisi: ;D
Everything that espinetenbolas says about radiators and fans is what causes the most difference in a liquid.
You just have to see that the transfer to the air is the most deficient part, the bottleneck as it is usually called.I'm going to get a bit tangled but I see that things have become very technical ja ja, that has to be read slowly first.
What I do see is that so many radiators cause more problems than anything else, one big one is better.
The order... with the graphics being the last one goes without saying, right?, (and the radiator before the blocks are placed)The closed circuit without a reservoir is a bit better it's true I hadn't noticed, how bad these pumps are sucking, it's supposed that without a reservoir it feeds better thanks to its own residual momentum (it must be for that reason right)
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So far so good, but this is where everything starts to get complicated for me jajajaj
I've read that there are several types of RL, the American, the German, the Australian... "Ja ja ja, well mine has to be Martian...
I'll be back later
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I ended up keeping the radiator I have, as I have trouble returning it.
I bought a gasket sold by the same brand XSPC, I suppose that with this gasket it will be fine.
The fans I bought are Noctua.
NF-A14 industrialPPC-3000 PWMI have another question about ventilation (of course).
My motherboard is an MSI, and it comes with the Command Center program, which is what I use for the ventilation of the caja.La case. The case I'm going to put is a thermaltake urban t81, and it comes with a fan controller to manually increase the speed.
Would it be correct to set the speed of the fans that ventilate the case controlled by the Command Center and the ones on the radiators by the case controller? Or would it be more correct to control everything with the Command Center?
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I would buy an aquaero XD, but if you don't have more money I would let the motherboard control them.
Best regards!!!.
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Those fans with that radiator don't make sense... in fact those fans don't make sense in any system.
The 2000RPM model is already excessive in terms of noise... I say more... the normal 1500RPM model is unbearable for my taste and I say this because I have 4 in my case and they are self-regulating to go to 500RPM 99% of the time and at full capacity in winter they don't exceed 800-900RPM.
As for the radiator I would sell it if it's not possible to return it... it's not useful for your Dual GPU and CPU configuration... only for the CPU it would be good... CPU+GPU would be just right or it will give you temperatures similar to a good air cooler... with those three gadgets disaster is assured :facepalm:.
You need a minimum of a triple radiator... or in other words now you will have worse temperatures than if you keep your current air cooling.
The problem with RL is that there is no objective criterion because manufacturers don't provide enough information and people don't have enough knowledge for all combinations... not even those of us who are knowledgeable can assure you 100% what we comment here since we extrapolate data from reviews.
The normal thing is to start with a basic kit and keep playing and expanding... that is, spending money which is what manufacturers are interested in but it's complicated when the level of auditory comfort and performance clash.
These are characteristics to take into account and many times people talk thinking only about one of these characteristics.
Javisoft for example has placed 4 radiators in his system for a Hexacore and 3 graphics in SLI.... the thing is that surely with fewer radiators he would get similar temperatures if he put some cool fans of 3000RPM but then he would have to give up the comfort he has now.
As you can see it's something subjective and personal... it depends on each one what they are looking for when assembling their RL and of course money... another factor that weighs.
Regarding fan control and regardless of what you put, put everything on PWM controlled by the motherboard with a master cable for each group of fans... this way it's easier and cheaper to control-self-regulate the fans.
That is, the pump alone in the CPU connector so that if for some reason it stops, the motherboard turns off the equipment. It usually puts it in the instructions but it's good to remember
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The problem is that to outperform some Corsair SP or Nidec AP-60s, you have to go to top-tier fans like Deltas, since in that range, Ultra Kazees, for example, are very even with more noise and the Noctua Industrials are a scam outright, and Delta or Sanyo ones, don't even get me started on how they sound XD.
I prefer more rads and for the PC not to be too noisy, honestly XD.
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I got tired of those dilemmas and others and now the radiator is out of the box and has nothing to do with what is in the stores,
Salu2.
