Workstation for animation and heavy work

[Revdin]

I have a doubt about whether a motherboard with two Intel Xeon processors is suitable for me or not.

In principle, I am considering
motherboard plus two processors
minimum 32 GB RAM
graphics cards
1 TB SSD hard drive
external cloud device
etc.

I would like to receive recommendations for Asus motherboard models and Intel micro models.
Thank you

[tilt]

I think someone looking for a system with those characteristics should have a clearer idea of what they're looking for, and if you come to a forum asking for help from others (most of whom, by the way, have never touched a system of that caliber) the least you should specify, for example, is how many cores you're looking for (there are Xeons between 4 and 22 cores).

"External cloud device" do you mean a NAS? :ugly::ugly::ugly:

Regarding the SSD, at these levels I think it's essential to go for NVMe, a raid 0 of SM951 costs less than 600€ and would give you the tera you're looking for with an unmatched performance in that price range. If you need more performance you would have to go for something like the SX350 from Sandisk, but we're already talking about more than 3000 euros per TB.

Regarding "graphics cards" you're even lazier if that's possible, but given the characteristics of the system I imagine you're looking for a quadro SLI or similar. The new 16nm quadros come out in October, and the cheapest one I don't think will go below 2500. For certain applications, a GTX1080 might be more cost-effective for you. Have you thought about checking a forum related to your professional activity where there are people who use that hardware daily? They're sure to give you better advice than here.

[Namiga]

@tilt:

I think someone looking for a system with those characteristics should have a clearer idea of what they're looking for, and if you come to a forum asking for help from others (most of whom, by the way, have never touched a system of that caliber) the least you should specify is, for example, how many cores you're looking for (there are Xeons between 4 and 22 cores).

By "external cloud device" do you mean a NAS? :ugly::ugly::ugly:

Regarding the SSD, at these levels I think it's essential to go for NVMe, a raid 0 of SM951 costs less than 600€ and would give you the tera you're looking for with an unmatched performance in that price range. If you need more performance, you would have to go for something like the SX350 from Sandisk, but we're already talking about more than 3000 euros per TB.

Regarding "graphics cards" you're even more vague if that's possible, but given the characteristics of the system I imagine you're looking for an SLI of quadros or similar. The new 16nm quadros come out in October, and the cheapest one I don't think will go below 2500. For certain applications, a GTX1080 might be more profitable for you. Have you thought about checking a forum related to your professional activity where there are people who use that hardware daily? They will surely advise you better than here.

I completely agree with the colleague.

But I want to comment on one thing... you don't say what type of animation, at what resolution, with what program...

That is... the request is too vague...

We love to help people, but be a bit more specific, man;D

One more important thing... are you going to make a living out of it?? or is it just a hobby?

The first sentence:

I have the doubt of whether or not I should get a motherboard with two Intel Xeon processors

It's like saying, I don't know if I want something sweet or salty. But at least you make it clear that you want to eat :wall::wall:

Help us to help you (Jerry McGuire) ;D

P.D.: the only real thing in your request can be answered with the following:

Buy the maximum you can afford.

[JuezDred]

It depends on the program you use. Since not all work well with some graphics. Etc etc etc. Processors idem. From 4 6 8 12 cores. Different speeds. It depends on the budget and little more
The only thing that is clear is that we are on the socket 2011 v3. Nothing of 1151 or similar

[Revdin]

Well I'm clear that I won't ask.

And that the mess is the general tone

When I know how to ask I'll ask again.

In the meantime I'm left not knowing.

As I already knew that I'm ignorant I can't thank you for telling me what I already knew.

And in the end if someone dares to put a plate reference then grateful.

I still doubt between motherboard for two processors or not.

[JuezDred]

but think about it….. how much budget do you have? and would it be just the tower or screen or screens too? to give you an idea, we can reach equipment of more than 9 thousand euros. so let's take it step by step.

[Namiga]

@Revdin:

Well I'm clear that I won't ask.

And that the off-the-cuff answer is the general rule

When I know how to ask I'll ask again.

In the meantime I'm left not knowing.

As I already knew that I'm ignorant I can't thank you for telling me what I already knew.

And in the end if someone feels like putting a motherboard reference then I'm grateful.

I'm still doubting between a motherboard for two processors or not.

I don't see off-the-cuff answer…. We just ask that you give us more information.

You go to a dealership and say: I want a car with 4 wheels.

We're the same as the dealership salesman.

Don't close up and tell us a little bit what you want to do and we'll help you

[Revdin]

@tilt:

I think someone looking for a system with those characteristics should have a clearer idea of what they're looking for, and if you come to a forum asking for help from others (most of whom, by the way, have never touched a system of that caliber) the least you should specify is, for example, how many cores you're looking for (there are Xeons between 4 and 22 cores).

By "external cloud device" do you mean a NAS? :ugly::ugly::ugly:

Regarding the SSD, at these levels I think it's essential to go for NVMe, a raid 0 of SM951 costs less than 600€ and would give you the tera you're looking for with an unmatched performance in that price range. If you need more performance you would have to go for something like the SX350 from Sandisk, but we're already talking about more than 3000 euros per TB.

Regarding "graphics cards" you're even more vague if that's possible, but given the characteristics of the system I imagine you're looking for a Quadro SLI or similar. The new 16nm Quadros come out in October, and the cheapest one I don't think will go below 2500. For certain applications, a GTX1080 might be more cost-effective for you. Have you considered checking a forum related to your professional activity where there are people who use that hardware daily? They will surely advise you better than here.

Well, not lazy. If anything, concise in words. So you had more room to show off by attending to the range of choices.

Yes. By external cloud device I meant a NAS.

I got lost with the cores. Give me a hand instead of telling me to "Google" it. Because with all the Googling, in the end, we won't need the little people.

The truth is that you're quoting pretty expensive products. I'll look into the GTX 1080.

And well, there are surely specialized forums, but I like Hardlimit. Anyway, as is my custom, I've made several inquiries (I usually do at least three) and I might have hit the mark in some of the forums you mentioned of specialized professionals.

I'll wait for the first round. I'll get the most out of the rapapolvos and if necessary, I'll start the second round of inquiries, this time looking for some animation forum.

Thanks

[JuezDred]

Xeon 2011v3
I7 2011v3
As much RAM as you can and the fastest you can
The motherboards for this socket are all more or less the same.
Asus has some that are military-grade. I think it's pretty decent.
As for hard drives, the fellow already said it. M2
The Nvidia is a good piece of hardware. And the rest is up to the consumer.

[Revdin]

@JuezDred:

It depends on the program you use. Since not all work well with some graphics. Etc etc etc. Processors idem. From 4 6 8 12 cores. Different speeds. It depends on the budget and little more
The only thing that is clear is that we are walking on the zocalo 2011 v3. Nothing of 1151 or similar

I just don't understand much.

My two desktop computers broke down with a difference of a couple of weeks.
To take away my fear the one I bought I'm putting it together myself.

Of that one I can tell you the characteristics
Asus Z170K motherboard
32 GB Ram
intel i7 6700K LGA 1151 processor
4 cores!!!!.
Well that's it. Because above me they put others with many more
480 GB ssd hyperx savage from kingston
I took advantage of an old graphics card I have from nVidia 1 GB

And well the second computer I would like to be a beast.

What do I do in my day to day?
Well almost everything in autocad 2D. Simple and durable.

What would I like?
Autodesk Revit
PhotoScan from Agisoft.com
and then my attempts at 3D animation. The same Blender or any other paid one.

I don't intend to spend much. The less the better and just enough. I could invest up to 80000 euros.
But I honestly thought that a beast like this would cost three thousand euros or so. And above a colleague says that a component alone can already cost that amount. So all this can be done in a rolls royce plan.

I'm satisfied with getting the bug and stuff. Knowing where to look for things. Understanding a little about these topics to be able to choose and give an opinion when the time comes for a purchase.

And returning to my topic of the motherboard with two processors.

Who needs a card like that?
Is the format ATX or is it another?

Thanks

[Revdin]

@JuezDred:

Xeon 2011v3
I7 2011v3
As much RAM as you can and the fastest you can
The boards for that socket are all more or less the same.
Asus has some that are military grade. I think it's pretty decent.
As for hard drives, the fellow already said it. M2
The Nvidia is a good piece of hardware. And the rest is up to the consumer.

Well, with this I have enough to entertain myself on google.
:love:

[JuezDred]

4 modules or 8 of ddr4 memory since the quad channel of the ram will come in handy
The board goes into asus and you will see it.

[Revdin]

@Namiga:

I don't see any bullshit…. We just ask that you give us more information.

You go to a dealership and say: I want a car with 4 wheels.

We are just like the dealership salesman.

Don't close up shop and tell us a little bit what you want to do and we'll help you

Well yes. A 4-wheeled car that has air conditioning because in September it's so hot that it's unbearable. I'm beat down and stressed out too.

:wall:

[whoololon]

For a 2D Cad, you don't need as much, no matter how beastly the project is and even if you work with solids instead of meshes.
Any configuration that works well in games from this year will work well, the usual is a Z170 with an i7-6700K, 16 Gb of RAM, 240 GB SSD and a GTX 1070.
Now, regarding the graphics, if you're not going to get into 3D in a professional way, we can get by with a second-hand 970 and a Quaddro M1000M or lower, the first one we'll use for the CUDA and the second one for the drivers. It's a configuration for 2D design, or amateur 3D for resolutions of 2K at most.
From there, we can go up to a 2011-v3 with a Xeon E5-2620 V4 or an E5-4620 v4, depending on how rumboso you are, with their 32 Gb or 64 Gb of RAM. In terms of graphics, a Titan X with a Quadro M2000, or simply an M4000. We would already be talking about a semi-professional team of high (price) performance, for 4K resolutions.

[Namiga]

For what you say you do, you don't need such a big machine or even by chance

With an i7 and 16Gb you have more than enough. And with that you can start to dabble in 3d with a very good machine.

If you talk about Xeon, you talk about expensive CPUs by definition. The i7, even being expensive, is cheaper... normally

Personally, I think you don't need that much.

The configuration you say you are putting together is fantastic... and you will take time to get 100% performance out of it.

[Namiga]

@whoololon:

For a Cad in 2D you don't need much, no matter how beastly the project is and even if you work with solids instead of meshes.
Any configuration that works well in games from this year will work well, the usual is usually a Z170 with an i7-6700K, 16 Gb of RAM, 240 GB SSD and a GTX 1070.
Now, regarding the graphics, if you're not going to get into 3D professionally, we can get by with a second-hand 970 and a Quaddro M1000M or lower, the first one we'll use for the CUDA and the second for the drivers. It's a configuration for 2D design, or amateur 3D for resolutions up to 2K.
From there, we can go up to a 2011-v3 with a Xeon E5-2620 V4 or an E5-4620 v4, depending on how rumboso you are, with their 32 GB or 64 GB of RAM. In terms of graphics, a Titan X with a Quadro M2000, or simply an M4000. We would already be talking about a semi-professional team of high (price) performance, for 4K resolutions.

…and let's relax tits damn it. :love:

It's that for 2D … it's that you don't even need a 970, jeez

If you want to get into 4K, well... the first thing would be a monitor that supported it too.. I mean..

[whoololon]

It's just that we know what happens when you usually buy a computer to work... that some games end up being played. :ugly:

PD: Besides, if you have to render, it will always be better than using integrated graphics. The monitor thing goes without saying.

[Namiga]

@whoololon:

It's that we know what happens when you usually buy a computer to work... that some games end up being played. :ugly:

PD: Besides, if you have to render, it will always be better than using an integrated one. The monitor thing is understood.

The monitor thing... If I told you.....
Regarding the graphics, I didn't mean an integrated one.. But the 970 is still a lot of money
Any would be fine

[tilt]

@Revdin:

And returning to my topic of the motherboard with two processors.

Who needs a card like this?
Is the format ATX or is it another?

Thanks

To this day, no one has two CPUs in a desktop computer. They are used almost exclusively in servers, render farms, supercomputers, etc...

A 4-core CPU is like having 4 of the old processors.

For AutoCAD 2D and 3D dabblings, a core i7 like the one you say broke is perfect. What I don't understand is why you don't fix it.

[Revdin]

@tilt:

As of today, no one has two CPUs in a desktop computer. They are used almost exclusively in servers, render farms, supercomputers, etc...

A 4-core CPU is like having 4 of the old processors.

For AutoCAD 2D and 3D basics, a core i7 like the one you say broke is perfect. What I don't understand is why you don't fix it.

What I was also saying is that I have bought a new PC that I am building.
My first build!!!!!!!!!!!

As for the thermaltake, it broke the motherboard, and with it, the processor in a way and the memories.
Last week I met Alberto from a local service who apparently is a handyman who has sometimes recovered motherboards. I will take it to him. Although with the desktop I am building - much more powerful - and my project for a workstation, I am sure I will get more speed and efficiency.

Thanks