AMD Zen, news and comments

[whoololon]

@rul3s Well, there's the issue, that according to the table, the R5 1500 and 1600 have 6 cores and 12 threads; initially they compare (the 4/8 ones) with the Skylake i7, that's what they say and we'll have to wait for the tests.

One thing I've been clear about since long before all this came out: if AMD's micros (FX) were cheap, it was simply because they performed like crap. No one sells hard drives for three pennies, and the kilo of performance is fixed for all brands.

But there we had a whole generation of "nerds" of Taringa level who, ignoring or not knowing the era when one had to do numbers to get an Athlon, tacitly awarded AMD the title of "good and cheap brand" precisely at its worst moment.

But all this is rumor, until there are tests and prices, it's just to pass the time.

[cobito]

Changing the subject a bit, it seems that there won't be drivers for Windows 7. That will affect the integrated graphics. I mean, the micro itself will work (as it couldn't be otherwise) but the "advanced" functions won't.

Source.

[jordiqui]

Hello,
today I read that on February 28 we will know something concrete. In fact, there is a store in China that had it for sale, according to the source, without knowing which platform it was. They have obviously removed said processor from stock. Although, it was around 1400 yuan... In any case, I am eager to see the first official tests.

[Yorus]

@cobito said in AMD Zen, news and comments:

Changing the subject a bit, it seems that there won't be drivers for Windows 7. That will affect the integrated graphics. That is, the micro itself will work (as it couldn't be otherwise) but the "advanced" functions won't.

Source.

That already seems to me to be a bad move and lately I also see it in Intel. What is that about leaving without drivers a system with so much market share and that doesn't end support until 2019? At this rate PCs are going to be like mobiles.

[kynes]

Don't worry, there will definitely be no WHQL driver, but with a patch to the.inf, you should be able to install the normal radeon drivers, just like you always have with the geforce go (the ones in laptops) until nVidia unified their drivers. This will affect other people, but I hope those of us here know how to download a modified.inf.

[Obione]

Ye, from ignorance I'm going to say that it doesn't seem strange to me. It has cost me (and I'm not saying it has touched my balls because it wasn't a priority for me) so much to jump from OS when it wasn't necessary (XP, 7 and 10; 1 yes 1 no) that I've moved on from the topic but I see it as normal. Do you want DX12 for 4 games that perform the same in DX11? Get 10. You get FullHD to watch TV, you've gone crazy with 4K, little content. That performs less with 7... Well, I don't think it's entirely logical and we can talk about conspiracy but, it is what it is, Win has taken little jumps especially with new graphics. As you say it's a popular OS with security updates, which made me have to change the modest Vista (not to mention crap) because soon they'll leave it in the lurch for security, I'm emigrated with dad's cuttable laptop and I find myself very comfortable with my multimedia shit, which is 17" but closer, and like that I can't tell commas from dots xD in videos I'm just as comfortable. At home they were 23" but far away.

[whoololon]

It seems that the processor nomenclature is now official.

As well as the coolers that will come standard.

The little guy reminds me of a ThermalTake manual selector that I have on the K7... how the poor thing screams.

[whoololon]

Well, here I put the alleged results of the CPU-Z of the 1600X, according to the news from WccfTech. As always, take it with a grain of salt.

[cobito]

It seems that those results meet the high expectations. Let's see if they are real... and let's see the price.

[cobito]

For Linux users, it seems that you will have to look for the latest version of the kernel. It should be noted that in this regard, Intel tends to be much more forward-thinking than AMD has been.

Continue reading...

[cobito]

Some reviews:

· Phoronix
· Anandtech
· Gamers Nexus
· Arstechnica
· Hot Hardware
· Overlockers
· TechSpot
· Pc Perspective
· Ocaholic
· OverclockersClub
· The Tech Report
· Toms's Hardware

[cobito]

AMD has announced that the mid-range Zen (Ryzen 5) will be released in less than a month. The confirmed models and prices are the four-core for $169 and the six-core for $219.

Source.

[whoololon]

Let's put another 50 € (price in store) and we are left with the RX 1500X for 220 € and the 1600X for 300 €.
The thing is that with the price drop of the Intels (the 7600K is at 250 €)... well, I don't know.

[Forenaits]

With all the hype, I almost threw the computer out the window to get one, but luckily I restrained myself. If I had to build a new computer, and it wasn't focused solely on gaming, I would go for one without thinking twice, but for those of us with Haswell-e / Broadwell-e, I think it's absurd.

The savings from making a change at the top of the range (1800X vs 6900X) are considerable, even more so if you pair that micro with a matching motherboard, in which, just like with the processor, you can save around 50% of the price of its counterpart for Intel (X370 vs X99).

A saving of 700€ well compensates for the differences that may be in performance, which, from what I've read, are not that many.

I leave you a new review about performance in games TOM'S HARDWARE REVIEW

[cobito]

Rumors have already come out and continue to circulate. There is talk of a 12-core and 24-thread micro and another of 16 cores at 3.6GHz. These seem more like the Xeons' counterparts, although it is not clear if they will be multiprocessor. Some compare them to the x950X, so no one is taking away the thousand or so euros.

[garfield]

On top of that, they are releasing game patches that are improving, and a lot, the performance of these micros. In the end, before the year ends, we will have the real performance of these micros. Although I will continue to wait for the Raven Ridge, with the integrated APU. I am eager to see one in testing.

[cobito]

Following the same nomenclature as Intel, AMD has announced its low-end micros without much fanfare: the Ryzen 3.

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[Yorus]

They have been on the market for several months now and these AMD micros have proven to be a great alternative to Intel in many cases. I was thinking about stopping using the Xeon for my ITX "gamer" PC and upgrading to Ryzen, that even a Ryzen 3 1200 would be a huge leap, but for now there are very few ITX boards and none below 110€, double what some 1151 boards are worth.

[cobito]

On Phoronix they have published some benchmarks of the Threadripper 1950X, the competitor of the i9 that brings 16 physical cores with SMT. It seems that in parallelizable operations, the Ryzen beats the i9 but in tasks with little use of many cores, the Threadripper lags a bit behind. Good beast after all.

[whoololon]

Now I have read that the latest BIOS version for the GigaByte X370 raises the default voltage to values between 1.5 and 1.7v.

The normal thing for a big grain OC on a Ryzen is something less than 1.4v, so that 1.7 is a call to disaster.

Source.