AMD Ryzen 3000 Series

[_Neptunno_]

@istarion said in AMD Ryzen 3000 Series:

@_Neptunno_ more or less... but I'm getting anxious
And that my pc is doing strange things... It will be 5 years old this summer but it's not running very smoothly. It does some strange things, games also give me fps drops. I also have a Samsung EVO 970 working at half speed (my motherboard is borderline with m.2 support), and with the 2080Ti I got (I went overboard), it seems to be just barely working...

My plan was to wait until April and buy a motherboard, cpu and memory, and now I'm bringing forward the graphics card and the case. But of course if I have to wait until July, and it's not a 16c, I'm really not looking forward to it...

I'm just as stuck as @garfield

Well at least we'll see some movement in the gpu market with the recycled Radeon Instinct, 16gb vram, pretty fast, they can give a fight

Buff, what a joy that 2800TI lol enjoy it
Well what I would do is get a Ryzen 2600, overclock to the max (or not, mind you) and then sell it and put a big Ryzen 3000 in!!

I say this in case you can't stand your current platform for the months left until the 3000s come out. I tell you that my 2600X is working great, not much more powerful for gaming than my old 4970K but it's amazing to have 6/12... although I dream of having more cores (even if I don't need them lol).

Take care!"

[Istarion]

Well, in the end I do the same thing @_Neptunno_, a Ryzen 2600

A supposed Ryzen 3000 "engineering sample" has appeared on userbenchmark.
The score is not very good, although it seems to be made with only 1 module of memory and 3.4 - 3.6Ghz:
https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/14076820

Comparison with a TR2920X (stock TR2920X 3.5Ghz - 4.3Ghz vs Zen 2 3.7Ghz single channel):
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-TR-2920X-vs-AMD-Eng-Sample--2D3212BGMCWH2-3734-N/m625966vsm697865

Speculations are also opening. In this link, a user estimates the possible performance of the same chip at 5.0ghz and 4.7ghz.
Basically it would lead the table of benchmark scores, I hope so!

[garfield]

Until they come out for sale, I don't believe anything. Not because I'm prointel, but because the tests I see now have always favored AMD a little, and then in games (which is what people really want them for) they were left behind. They don't show if they have improved the huge latencies of the memories, and on top of that with a 7790 and memories at 2666. They already told us that Navi would come out now, and that it would be the best, and before that Vega.
Mind you, I say this with a 2700X, with which I am very happy, but don't sell me smoke.

[Obione]

I thought you would be talking about this...

Ryzen 9 3900X - 12C/24T\t- 3.8/4.6\t- 6/64 MB - 105W - 499$
Ryzen 7\t3800X - 8C/16T - 3.9/4.5 - 4/32 MB\t- 105W - 399$
Ryzen 7\t3700X - 8C/16T -\t3.6/4.4 - 4/32 MB\t - 65W - 329$
Ryzen 5\t3600X - 6C/12T - \t3.8/4.4 - 3/32 MB\t - 95W - 249$
Ryzen 5\t3600 - 6C/12T - 3.6/4.2 - 3/32 MB -\t65W - 199$

[whoololon]

The 3600 is going to be a hit, for sure. While waiting to know the real compatibility of these with current chipsets, especially the B450 which is the most widespread, and the performance, I think we all agree that this processor is going to sell like hotcakes. The next one, without a doubt, will be the 3700X, and the favorite of the "pollagorders" will be the 3900X, despite the fact that it may have some problems with temperatures that the rest won't have (because of how the soldering would go with the IHS), which can cause it to not be able to go up as high in revs as the rest. Finally, like everyone, I would like to see the real performance difference between one and the other; because because of the L2, along with those TDPs, I don't quite see it clear.

[Obione]

Announced on x16. I'm curious about the latencies in the 1 and 2 chiplets, to see how they behave with games and audio on these 12/16 cores, I don't know if they will lose a bit of response compared to the 6/8 cores

[amd125]

I'm really happy with my I7 2600K but I'm not saying I couldn't switch to an AMD 8-16 in the future. Not for now, but micros like the AMD 2600 6-12 are already priced below €135 and that's a very good price for a micro with that potential.

[rul3s]

@amd125 said in AMD Ryzen 3000 Series:

To be honest, I'm happy with my I7 2600K but I'm not saying I couldn't switch to an AMD 8-16 in the future. For now, no, but the fact that micros like the AMD 2600 6-12 are already at prices below €135 makes it a very good deal for a micro with that potential.

Exactly, the 2600 is a must-buy by default because of the price/performance it offers, it can barely cause a bottleneck in "some" games and it has an excellent price, plus if you buy the platform later you can put a 3000 or even a 4000.

By some games I mean only csgo at more than 144hz, otherwise, nothing at all.

[whoololon]

What I don't see so clearly are the new motherboards. I don't know about you, but getting into a chipset that they will pass the baton to in 2020... I just don't see it.

I think it's better to get a X400 motherboard with a decent VRM that will last us until we get bored of it, and skip the X500s.

[Obione]

I certainly don't get any benefit from that little bit of boost or PCIe 4.0. With a 480GB MP510 I can get miles for less than 100 bucks. Then at the price of the graphics cards, for PCIe 4.0 to start to be noticeable that's going to be a rip-off. I honestly will change if I don't run Cyberpunk well in a year, to a 3600 for example with an MSI B450, for 140€ because it comes with a good sound card with the Pro Carbon, because a Mortar of a hundred or so already moves it. And memory is more of the same, you can find BBB 3000 from 75€. We're talking about a 12-core for over 200€ and even less in a combo of motherboard + RAM to run it. P.D.: What a crappy fans on the chipset xD