Do you know if the Corsair iCUE H150i cooler comes with thermal paste included?

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@clipper said in Do you know if the Corsair iCUE H150i cooler comes with thermal paste included?:

@defaultuser I can tell you that in the field of bicycle frames, there are "open mould" frames, and some from certain brands can't even be bought in Spain because certain brands use them and have agreements not to sell to Spain.
And you drop your balls to the ground when you see the price (around 450 / 600) and you see the price of the brands that have the exclusive right to sell them, which is 1000€

I've been riding bikes since I was 14, and I can assure you that what's out there now is a complete scam. Let me give you an example: the first bike I had to compete in the amateur category is now called something else, and I bought it second-hand for 150,000 pesetas. It came from Euskatel, because the owner and mechanic of the shop in Barcelona had been a mechanic for a professional team and always had some offers like that. New, it would have cost double. It came with Dura-Ace from that era, a Vitus aluminum frame, the best, etc. If we extrapolate that to euros, it would have cost me 1000 euros second-hand. Regarding those frames (Macario and Giant are the biggest frame manufacturers), I doubt they've passed the safety tests that the branded ones supposedly pass. I weighed 69 Kg when I was racing, but now I weigh 80 or more, depending on the case. And when going downhill, which I've always been good at, with a Giant frame, it did some strange things more than once. I always knew that frame wasn't right until it broke. As for the warranty, let's not even talk about it, because I'll never buy Giant again. When you ride a bike, there are way more cars on the road now than 25 years ago, you're risking your life. I understand that the current prices are completely ridiculous, but I'd rather buy something within my means that will last, than one of those that you don't know what's going to happen. But everyone is free to buy what they want. Oh, when they say replica, they lie. For it to be a replica, they must have express authorization from the brand in question. Then, at customs, you might be in for a surprise and they might not let it through. Because it's not a replica, I've had some run-ins on Facebook about this, but lying isn't right either. Regards, comrades.

[defaultuser]

@clipper said in Do you know if the Corsair iCUE H150i cooler comes with thermal paste included?:

I don't feel like getting into a muddle right now, but a double radiator of 360 in parallel with a D5 mounted in an inverted V could be interesting.

Inverted V? what do you mean?

@clipper said in Do you know if the Corsair iCUE H150i cooler comes with thermal paste included?:

What I am looking at are fans to put pull push on my corsair rl and I'm between the ones that come standard (corsair ML 120) and the noctua industrial ones.

The MLs are very good in general and have a lot of pressure, however according to their official specifications they don't pull much air (4.2mm 75CFM 2400rpm).

If the tower is well ventilated I recommend making the sandwich with others that have an acceptable pressure (from 2mm onwards) but a lot of air flow, since the radiator you have is not very restrictive and you will be able to pass a lot more air flow.

I already told you, the convenient pressure/air flow balance in a fan depends on the conditions in which the fans work, I don't know how you have the tower but the interesting thing is that the fans of the radiator are passing air flow through the radiator or even forcing it, but without having to work to move the air flow through the tower or to make it enter or exit either to the extent possible.

In other words, if the other fans already do the rest of the circulation work competently, put something with a lot of air flow and only minimal pressure on the radiator.
You have the Bionix f140 with more than 100 cfm and two and a half of pressure, apparently the tips of the blades stick out a bit at high speed, but if you put it with a spacer or only in push they are an affordable and recommendable option.
You have the thermaltake toghfan with a little less air flow around 100 and three and a half of pressure, with more quality robustness and a very good motor.

I'm talking about 14 inch fans in order to put 12-14 cm adapters and come out very benefited.

In any case, unless the radiator has to do all the aerodynamic work of the tower, put high air flow with medium pressure, and that the ventilation that regenerates the air of the tower is capable of moving the same air flow. The original fans are designed to even take care of the ventilation of the whole tower, but if you improve and optimize those aspects you can easily pass a lot more cubic meters of air to the radiator.

[Clipper]

@defaultuser
The intake fans are these 3 UND
At the front.
Weight and dimensions
Depth 2.49 cm
Weight 140.61 g
Width 11.99 cm
Height 11.99 cm
Fan dimensions (W x D x H) 120 x 120 x 25 mm
Fan(s)
LED lighting Yes
Color of lighting Multi
Number of fan blades 7
Number of LEDs 8
Performance
Quantity per package 1 piece(s)
Suitable for Computer case
Type Fan
Fan diameter 12 cm
Rotational speed (min.) 400 RPM
Rotational speed (max.) 1500 RPM
Maximum airflow 47.7 cfm
Compatible with pulse width modulation (PWM) Yes
Maximum air pressure 1.46 mmH2O

The stock radiator fans are these:
ML120 specifications
Weight and dimensions
Width: 120 mm
Depth: 25 mm
Height: 120 mm
Power control
Rated current: 0.299 A
Technical details
Fan connector: 4 pin
Design
Product color: Black, Grey
Performance
Suitable for: Computer case
Type: Fan
Fan diameter: 12 cm
Supported processor sockets: Not compatible
Compatible processor: Not compatible
Minimum rotational speed: 400 RPM
Maximum rotational speed: 2400 RPM
Noise level (low speed): 16 dB
Noise level (high speed): 37 dB
Minimum airflow: 12 cfm
Maximum airflow: 75 cfm
Minimum air pressure: 0.2 mmH2O
Maximum air pressure: 4.2 mmH2O
Speed detection: Yes
Number of fans: 2
Mean time between failures: 200000 h

[defaultuser]

@clipper The intake ones make short of flow, right? The ones in the radiator will be pulling everything from half speed, and in any situation where the front ones don't rotate around 30% faster than the others.

It would be interesting if the intake ones made a little overpressure and over flow, so that the ones in the radiator use all their energy and capacity to cross air through the radiator, and nothing more, like entering or removing air from the tower.

Can't you fit 3 of 14cm in the front? The bad thing will be the noise of the air in the slots for 12cm, with 12-14 adapters it's better but it takes up more space.
And in the radiator would 14cm fit you?
In 14cm you have options of the same pressures but much more flow, it would be the improvement you would notice the most, if it has to be in 12cm it's another independent issue.

[Clipper]

@defaultuser say that the first hunch is the one that counts and my tower was not the first... It was the corsair 5000 D that differs from mine in that mine has: front, two sides and top of glass.
And the D has left side of glass and the rest of perforated aluminum (honeycomb grille (to call it somehow))
The 7000D or the 7000 icue seemed to me "expensive" but..
It would have been the smartest option.
I will try to make a review (I have a lot of work to do) of the tower.
After all, both the 5000D
And the 7000D are identical to the icue series, with the exception of the material of the sides.
Aesthetically the icue series is precise, I will not say the opposite.
But in practice...
It has several flaws.
First:
The front glass does not allow the fans to take air directly from the outside, it enters through two gaps between the glass and the sides of approximately 400mm by 30 mm.
That happens exactly the same way on the top.
In the front it is not excessively serious... But in the top it makes it impossible to put a pull/push system.

Fan support:
The 5000 series allows you to put 3 of 120 in the front
Right side 3 of 120
Top 3 of 120
Back 1 of 120 or 140
In radiators more or less the same, front, side, top of 360 mm
Depending on how they are mounted, it does not allow you to mount two in the front and side.
The 7000 series allows you to mount the same but in 140 mm
And that the 5000 series has a slot for a two-slot vertical GPU and the 7000 series has a three-slot one.

[defaultuser]

@clipper I can't remember what yours was, but the 5000 can definitely fit 14 in the front.

The front cover doesn't really bother you, because there's a lot of air coming in, the air that you're actually going to put in practice comes in without any problems. Plus, it works a little bit by isolating the noise.

The good thing is that with three decent 14cm fans running at half power and like that front, you would have the intake solved but well.

The bad thing is the slots for 12cm that are left in front of the blades, this design has become fashionable and you're not going to do a cosmetic surgery on a 200/300 tower.

If you already have good temperatures, we're here for modding nothing else right . How hot does your water get when you're running tests for a while?

[Clipper]

@defaultuser said in Do you know if the Corsair iCUE H150i cooler comes with thermal paste included?:

@clipper I don't remember what yours was, but the 5000 can definitely fit 14 in the front.

The front cover doesn't really bother you, because a lot of air comes in there, the air that you'll actually put in practice comes in without problems. Plus, it works a bit isolating the noise.

The good thing is that with three decent 14cm fans running at half power and like that front you would have the intake solved but well.

The bad thing is the slots for 12cm that are left in front of the blades, this design has become fashionable and you're not going to do a cosmetic surgery on a 200/300 tower.

If you already have good temperatures, we're here for modding nothing else right . How hot does the water get when you run tests for a while?

This Saturday I'll upload screenshots
Although it's a mess...
I had the brilliant idea that if I finish the new desk once and for all, I sell my spotless tower for about 150€ and get this one :

https://www.thermaltake.com/core-p8-tempered-glass-full-tower-chassis.html

Although I think the 17 fans it can carry cost more than the tower
Best regards

[Clipper]

First tests performed.
icue temperature measurement system
Aida 64 CPU stress test, passed 4 times in a row
In two cooling modes, relaxed and extreme.
CPU temperature according to icue 102 degrees and 98 degrees respectively, water temperature 32 degrees.
Something is not working very well...
Then I will upload screenshots.
Regards

[defaultuser]

@clipper said in Do you know if the Corsair iCUE H150i cooler comes with thermal paste included?:

Something is not working very well...
I'll upload screenshots later.

Also post a picture of how the AIO is mounted, to see if it's in a position where the air pocket stays in the pump or if we have to think about other things, that's not very clear.

[Clipper]

Two things.
My account was blocked on the PC after passing the hard limit test.
So I can't upload the screenshots of the temperature results.
Another thing...
How do you control a D5 on the PC?
Can it be connected to the Corsair Commander to use ICUE? Or does it have to be by BIOS?
Regards

[Clipper]

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saludos

[defaultuser]

@clipper said in Do you know if the Corsair iCUE H150i cooler comes with thermal paste included?:

My account was blocked on the PC when I passed the hard limit test.

Which account? Is it the Windows one? You can't get into your Windows user account? I don't understand.

@clipper said in Do you know if the Corsair iCUE H150i cooler comes with thermal paste included?:

How do you control a D5 on the PC?
Can it be connected to the Corsair Commander to use ICUE? Or does it have to be done through BIOS?

There are many versions of the D5.

If yours comes with a PWM connector with two wires and also a four-pin connector (like the ones for powering hard drives) with two wires, then you can control it from the motherboard (or BIOS, as you say, from any software that can manage the motherboard connectors)
With this system, the PWM connector only carries the tachometer and PWM control to the motherboard, and the power (+12 and 0) comes from the other connector directly from the power supply.
For this setup, the pump has to be PWM from the factory.

After that, I think there are some that are specifically manufactured for a kit and come with a connector specific to that kit (but they work on the same principle).

And if the pump is not PWM, then it only comes with 12V cables, it's not variable speed, and it's powered from the power supply just like the previous ones. They may eventually have a tachometer cable, but not a PWM control cable.

The motherboard connectors usually have a 1-amp limit (sometimes the specific connector for pump or AIO is a bit more), the smaller pumps use the four lines directly from the motherboard connector, but the larger ones have to take the 12V from the power supply.
In theory, a PWM connector gives the current directly from the 12V line of the motherboard without more, but in any case the current would pass through the thin track of the motherboard unnecessarily, and in any case you have to respect the current limit of the connector, or better yet stay a little below it.

[defaultuser]

@defaultuser said in Do you know if the Corsair iCUE H150i cooler comes with thermal paste included?:

Also put a photo of how the AIO is mounted

And the photo? .....The water at 35 and the micro at 95??

[Clipper]

@defaultuser after several attempts to validate the hardlimit performance test, it blocked the hardlimit account on the pc. (That's resolved) but not the validation of results.

About the D5 I have no but I've seen a water block for the GPU and it tickles my curiosity.
A custom R.L for 2023?

[defaultuser]

And another thing:
The probe that is measuring the temperature of the water, where in the circuit is it located? Is it known?

[Clipper]

@defaultuser is a closed system so I have no idea.
The most interesting thing about it is that when passing the stress test (4 in a row) when you finish each one the CPU goes to 95/105 degrees and instantly drops to 40 degrees and the water temperature does not change.
Regards
Edit.
I think CPU-Z allows you to do a continuous stress test on the CPU, right?
Regards 2

[defaultuser]

@clipper said in Do you know if the Corsair iCUE H150i cooler comes with thermal paste included?:

... hardlimit blocked my hardlimit account on the pc. (That's solved) the thing about validating results is not.

And the thing that the AIO might be "pan-fried" is also not true, buddy

@clipper said in Do you know if the Corsair iCUE H150i cooler comes with thermal paste included?:

I don't have any info on the D5, but I've seen a water block for the GPU and it's tempting me.
A custom R.L for 2023?

Well, changing the subject, if that's okay, but the VRAM is the worst cooled part in a graphics card, the chip is easy to overclock even by changing fans, but if the liquid block doesn't make contact with the RAM, it's a shame, that's why that kit you saw didn't have much success. Not to mention that the VRM and some other points also benefit from overclocking.
The idea is good, it even cools the chip better than a specific VGA block, but you would have to make a cold plate that touches all the key points with thermal pad and that also makes contact with the block, even screwed in better.

[Clipper]

@defaultuser
I refer to this block:
https://www.alphacool.com/search?sSearch=11948
Best regards

[defaultuser]

@clipper said in Do you know if the Corsair iCUE H150i cooler comes with thermal paste included?:

I think cpuZ allows you to do a continuous stress test on the CPU, right? I think it will be the option to verify that the temperature probes are working well.
Regards 2

Yes, indeed, and you can choose how many cores, it's a good option, I use it precisely for that, to give the micro an easy and quick job to analyze the thermal behavior.

@clipper said in Do you know if the Corsair iCUE H150i cooler comes with thermal paste included?:

The most interesting thing is that when you pass the stress test (4 in a row) when each one finishes, the CPU reaches 95/105 degrees and instantly drops to 40 degrees, and the water temperature doesn't change

All modern micros seem to have that temperature overmargin that seems to raise the core much more than the rest of the thermal mass when it's under load, and that overmargin is proportionally lower as the core load is lower.
Apparently, this is involved:

• The high voltage difference between different states.
• The thermal conductivity of the materials used inside the die.
• And the thermal density as they say, which to be precise, we should say the ratio between the watts of heat generated and the surface area that the die has to make contact with the HS (which is not the same).

In my case, there are other temperatures inside the die that give me a lot of info about what really happens, the L3, the die.
During testing, my cores heat up to 30º more than the L3 and they are in the same die, don't miss that, and the I/O that is in another die but joined to the same HS is a bit colder than the L3, in fact, until quite a while passes and the I/O stabilizes, it's at thirty and something with the cores at seventy and something.

In summary, there is a tremendous thermal lag in current micros in terms of heat coming out of the core to outside the die, which reflects almost absurd differences between cores and other components of the micro, but that thermal "funnel" can be improved as well.
In your case, the moment the work on the core stops, it drops to 40, which could indicate that the approximate temperature on the HS and on the head of the dies is that, but even so, lowering degrees on the HS will also lower the maximum core under load.

And the behavior of your liquid cooler still doesn't convince me despite all the above, I insist on a picture, I've already seen pumps that were out of alignment without anyone noticing, and also AIOs of the brand that when opened had a mess obstructing the fins of the block.
And if I'm wrong and it's option B, then the AIO's flow rate is clearly insufficient to suppose an improvement over an air cooler.
but I can't corroborate anything, I depend on your data, and you are thinking more about getting everything new

PD:
I use cpuZ to "heat up" and hwinfo64 to open real-time graphics of everything and see everything that happens.
Salu2.

[defaultuser]

@clipper said in Do you know if the Corsair iCUE H150i cooler comes with thermal paste included?:

@defaultuser
I refer to this block:
https://www.alphacool.com/search?sSearch=11948
Best regards

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