Do you know if the Corsair iCUE H150i cooler comes with thermal paste included?
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@defaultuser say that the first hunch is the one that counts
and my tower was not the first... It was the corsair 5000 D that differs from mine in that mine has: front, two sides and top of glass.
And the D has left side of glass and the rest of perforated aluminum (honeycomb grille (to call it somehow))
The 7000D or the 7000 icue seemed to me "expensive" but..
It would have been the smartest option.
I will try to make a review (I have a lot of work to do) of the tower.
After all, both the 5000D
And the 7000D are identical to the icue series, with the exception of the material of the sides.
Aesthetically the icue series is precise, I will not say the opposite.
But in practice...
It has several flaws.
First:
The front glass does not allow the fans to take air directly from the outside, it enters through two gaps between the glass and the sides of approximately 400mm by 30 mm.
That happens exactly the same way on the top.
In the front it is not excessively serious... But in the top it makes it impossible to put a pull/push system.Fan support:
The 5000 series allows you to put 3 of 120 in the front
Right side 3 of 120
Top 3 of 120
Back 1 of 120 or 140
In radiators more or less the same, front, side, top of 360 mm
Depending on how they are mounted, it does not allow you to mount two in the front and side.
The 7000 series allows you to mount the same but in 140 mm
And that the 5000 series has a slot for a two-slot vertical GPU and the 7000 series has a three-slot one. -
@clipper I can't remember what yours was, but the 5000 can definitely fit 14 in the front.
The front cover doesn't really bother you, because there's a lot of air coming in, the air that you're actually going to put in practice comes in without any problems. Plus, it works a little bit by isolating the noise.
The good thing is that with three decent 14cm fans running at half power and like that front, you would have the intake solved but well.
The bad thing is the slots for 12cm that are left in front of the blades, this design has become fashionable and you're not going to do a cosmetic surgery on a 200/300 tower.
If you already have good temperatures, we're here for modding nothing else right
. How hot does your water get when you're running tests for a while? -
@defaultuser said in Do you know if the Corsair iCUE H150i cooler comes with thermal paste included?:
@clipper I don't remember what yours was, but the 5000 can definitely fit 14 in the front.
The front cover doesn't really bother you, because a lot of air comes in there, the air that you'll actually put in practice comes in without problems. Plus, it works a bit isolating the noise.
The good thing is that with three decent 14cm fans running at half power and like that front you would have the intake solved but well.
The bad thing is the slots for 12cm that are left in front of the blades, this design has become fashionable and you're not going to do a cosmetic surgery on a 200/300 tower.
If you already have good temperatures, we're here for modding nothing else right
. How hot does the water get when you run tests for a while?This Saturday I'll upload screenshots
Although it's a mess...
I had the brilliant idea that if I finish the new desk once and for all, I sell my spotless tower for about 150€ and get this one :https://www.thermaltake.com/core-p8-tempered-glass-full-tower-chassis.html
Although I think the 17 fans it can carry cost more than the tower
Best regards -
First tests performed.
icue temperature measurement system
Aida 64 CPU stress test, passed 4 times in a row
In two cooling modes, relaxed and extreme.
CPU temperature according to icue 102 degrees and 98 degrees respectively, water temperature 32 degrees.
Something is not working very well...
Then I will upload screenshots.
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@clipper said in Do you know if the Corsair iCUE H150i cooler comes with thermal paste included?:
Something is not working very well...
I'll upload screenshots later.Also post a picture of how the AIO is mounted, to see if it's in a position where the air pocket stays in the pump or if we have to think about other things, that's not very clear.
Ryzen 5 3600 - Tuf B550 pro - 2x 8g 3600c18 - Strix rtx 2060 - M2 1TB
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Two things.
My account was blocked on the PC after passing the hard limit test.
So I can't upload the screenshots of the temperature results.
Another thing...
How do you control a D5 on the PC?
Can it be connected to the Corsair Commander to use ICUE? Or does it have to be by BIOS?
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@clipper said in Do you know if the Corsair iCUE H150i cooler comes with thermal paste included?:
My account was blocked on the PC when I passed the hard limit test.
Which account? Is it the Windows one? You can't get into your Windows user account? I don't understand.
@clipper said in Do you know if the Corsair iCUE H150i cooler comes with thermal paste included?:
How do you control a D5 on the PC?
Can it be connected to the Corsair Commander to use ICUE? Or does it have to be done through BIOS?There are many versions of the D5.
If yours comes with a PWM connector with two wires and also a four-pin connector (like the ones for powering hard drives) with two wires, then you can control it from the motherboard (or BIOS, as you say, from any software that can manage the motherboard connectors)
With this system, the PWM connector only carries the tachometer and PWM control to the motherboard, and the power (+12 and 0) comes from the other connector directly from the power supply.
For this setup, the pump has to be PWM from the factory.After that, I think there are some that are specifically manufactured for a kit and come with a connector specific to that kit (but they work on the same principle).
And if the pump is not PWM, then it only comes with 12V cables, it's not variable speed, and it's powered from the power supply just like the previous ones. They may eventually have a tachometer cable, but not a PWM control cable.
The motherboard connectors usually have a 1-amp limit (sometimes the specific connector for pump or AIO is a bit more), the smaller pumps use the four lines directly from the motherboard connector, but the larger ones have to take the 12V from the power supply.
In theory, a PWM connector gives the current directly from the 12V line of the motherboard without more, but in any case the current would pass through the thin track of the motherboard unnecessarily, and in any case you have to respect the current limit of the connector, or better yet stay a little below it.Ryzen 5 3600 - Tuf B550 pro - 2x 8g 3600c18 - Strix rtx 2060 - M2 1TB
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@defaultuser said in Do you know if the Corsair iCUE H150i cooler comes with thermal paste included?:
Also put a photo of how the AIO is mounted
And the photo?
.....The water at 35 and the micro at 95?? -
@defaultuser after several attempts to validate the hardlimit performance test, it blocked the hardlimit account on the pc. (That's resolved) but not the validation of results.
About the D5 I have no
but I've seen a water block for the GPU and it tickles my curiosity.
A custom R.L for 2023? -
And another thing:
The probe that is measuring the temperature of the water, where in the circuit is it located? Is it known? -
@defaultuser is a closed system so I have no idea.
The most interesting thing about it is that when passing the stress test (4 in a row) when you finish each one the CPU goes to 95/105 degrees and instantly drops to 40 degrees and the water temperature does not change.
Regards
Edit.
I think CPU-Z allows you to do a continuous stress test on the CPU, right?
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@clipper said in Do you know if the Corsair iCUE H150i cooler comes with thermal paste included?:
... hardlimit blocked my hardlimit account on the pc. (That's solved) the thing about validating results is not.
And the thing that the AIO might be "pan-fried" is also not true, buddy
@clipper said in Do you know if the Corsair iCUE H150i cooler comes with thermal paste included?:
I don't have any info on the D5, but I've seen a water block for the GPU and it's tempting me.
A custom R.L for 2023?Well, changing the subject, if that's okay, but the VRAM is the worst cooled part in a graphics card, the chip is easy to overclock even by changing fans, but if the liquid block doesn't make contact with the RAM, it's a shame, that's why that kit you saw didn't have much success. Not to mention that the VRM and some other points also benefit from overclocking.
The idea is good, it even cools the chip better than a specific VGA block, but you would have to make a cold plate that touches all the key points with thermal pad and that also makes contact with the block, even screwed in better. -
@defaultuser
I refer to this block:
https://www.alphacool.com/search?sSearch=11948
Best regards -
@clipper said in Do you know if the Corsair iCUE H150i cooler comes with thermal paste included?:
I think cpuZ allows you to do a continuous stress test on the CPU, right? I think it will be the option to verify that the temperature probes are working well.
Regards 2Yes, indeed, and you can choose how many cores, it's a good option, I use it precisely for that, to give the micro an easy and quick job to analyze the thermal behavior.
@clipper said in Do you know if the Corsair iCUE H150i cooler comes with thermal paste included?:
The most interesting thing is that when you pass the stress test (4 in a row) when each one finishes, the CPU reaches 95/105 degrees and instantly drops to 40 degrees, and the water temperature doesn't change
All modern micros seem to have that temperature overmargin that seems to raise the core much more than the rest of the thermal mass when it's under load, and that overmargin is proportionally lower as the core load is lower.
Apparently, this is involved:- The high voltage difference between different states.
- The thermal conductivity of the materials used inside the die.
- And the thermal density as they say, which to be precise, we should say the ratio between the watts of heat generated and the surface area that the die has to make contact with the HS (which is not the same).
In my case, there are other temperatures inside the die that give me a lot of info about what really happens, the L3, the die.
During testing, my cores heat up to 30º more than the L3 and they are in the same die, don't miss that, and the I/O that is in another die but joined to the same HS is a bit colder than the L3, in fact, until quite a while passes and the I/O stabilizes, it's at thirty and something with the cores at seventy and something.In summary, there is a tremendous thermal lag in current micros in terms of heat coming out of the core to outside the die, which reflects almost absurd differences between cores and other components of the micro, but that thermal "funnel" can be improved as well.
In your case, the moment the work on the core stops, it drops to 40, which could indicate that the approximate temperature on the HS and on the head of the dies is that, but even so, lowering degrees on the HS will also lower the maximum core under load.And the behavior of your liquid cooler still doesn't convince me despite all the above, I insist on a picture, I've already seen pumps that were out of alignment without anyone noticing, and also AIOs of the brand that when opened had a mess obstructing the fins of the block.
And if I'm wrong and it's option B, then the AIO's flow rate is clearly insufficient to suppose an improvement over an air cooler.
but I can't corroborate anything, I depend on your data, and you are thinking more about getting everything new 
PD:
I use cpuZ to "heat up" and hwinfo64 to open real-time graphics of everything and see everything that happens.
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@clipper said in Do you know if the Corsair iCUE H150i cooler comes with thermal paste included?:
@defaultuser
I refer to this block:
https://www.alphacool.com/search?sSearch=11948
Best regardsCool
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@defaultuser
this is how it is mounted
regards
pd. the GPU support as an anecdote
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@clipper Well, there won't be an air bubble in the pump, with the radiator up and the block hoses pointing to one side or upwards it's impossible, so that's out of the question.
The water doesn't heat up and with the fans very relaxed, doesn't the pump go up to maximum during the tests? You need to set the pump to more rpm or to maximum. Can't the pump be set to vary automatically with the temperature of the micro?
Oh by the way, with the program I told you, you can see the effective frequency that each core reaches in different situations and conditions, or if you're having thermal throttling and how much, watts, etc.
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@defaultuser said in Do you know if the Corsair iCUE H150i cooler comes with thermal paste included?:
@clipper Well, there won't be an air bubble in the pump, with the radiator on top and the block hoses pointing to one side or upwards it's impossible, so that's ruled out.
The water doesn't heat up and with the fans very relaxed, doesn't the pump go to maximum during the tests? You need to set the pump to more rpm or to maximum. Can't you set the pump to vary automatically with the temperature of the micro?
Oh by the way, with the program I told you, you can see the effective frequency that each core reaches in different situations and conditions, or if you're having thermal throttling and how much, watts, etc.
In theory with icue you can make different curves in the management of fans and I suppose also of the pump.
In the first photo of the stress test everything is at full capacity, pump and fans.
And there is no difference between everything at full capacity and relaxed in relation to the temperature of the water.
For now the first thing I'm going to change is the hub and I'll mount the corsair commander that allows regulating 6 molex 4-pin fans and 6 more leds plus two temperature probes.
With that I'll be able to (in theory, which says it can't) control the intake (front) fans that are currently fixed (a mess on the part of the tower's standard hub)
The second or next thing... will be to do a stress test with CPU Z to see if in a "reasonable time 10 minutes" the temperature of the water changes.
As a last change, if I get annoyed I'll get the water block for the GPU (which isn't necessary, mind you)
But as it's very well priced it might be interesting.
The doubt would be: can you connect a D5 to the GPU so that the GPU controls it? Or does it need another "gadget"
Regards.
P.d to not contaminate this post I think it's better to open a new one.
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@clipper said in Do you know if the Corsair iCUE H150i cooling system includes thermal paste?:
In the first stress test photo, everything is maxed out, pump and fans included.
And there is no difference between everything maxed out and relaxed in relation to the water temperature.Of course, there was always enough water, it's in the micro where you could improve a little, did you do it?
@clipper said in Do you know if the Corsair iCUE H150i cooling system includes thermal paste?:
In theory, with iCUE you can make different curves in the management of fans and I suppose also of the pump.
Look at it, it's convenient that the pump is at maximum during moments of maximum heat production.
The fans, on the other hand, in a liquid system should rotate based on the water temperature only.@clipper said in Do you know if the Corsair iCUE H150i cooling system includes thermal paste?:
The doubt would be: can a D5 be connected to the GPU so that the GPU controls it? Or does it need another "gadget"?
Yes, it can.
If your graphics card has a 4-pin PWM connector to connect an external fan, you can already do it. The pump must also be PWM, of course, and the only thing you need is an adapter that takes the 2 + and - 12v cables from the pump to a Molex connector from the power supply, and the other 2 cables (tachometer and PWM control) from the pump to the 4-pin connector of the graphics card.
In cases where the motherboard and graphics card exchange information, you can do the same but using a connector from the motherboard and sending it according to the graphics card's temperature.
You could even control the pump with the PWM signal of one of the series fans (since you're going to remove them), but that already requires tinkering with the wiring or locating the specific connector model to make yourself an adapter.
@clipper said in Do you know if the Corsair iCUE H150i cooling system includes thermal paste?:
P.D. to avoid contaminating this post, I think it would be better to open a new one.
Yes... better
