Opinion on new equipment for professional graphic design

[tigre_est]

Hello. I've been browsing the font subforum, where you recommended a Be Quiet! font to me, and I'm very happy with your advice. Therefore, I've decided to show you the configuration of the complete system I'm planning to buy, to see what you think. The system is for professional work with 2D and 3D CAD modeling, rendering, video editing, etc...

I'm looking for a powerful, stable and silent system, without going to the extremes of liquid cooling. Tell me if you would change any component.

1x Intel Core I7 2600K 3.4Ghz Box Socket 1155

1x Noctua NH-U12P SE2

1x Asus P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3

2x Kingston HyperX Blu DDR3 1600 PC3-12800 8GB 2x4GB CL9

1x MSI GeForce GTX 570 Twin Frozr III PE/OC 1280MB GDDR5

1x Crucial M4 128GB SATA3 + Data Transfer Kit

1x WD Caviar Black 1.5TB SATA3 64MB

1x Be Quiet Dark Power P9 Pro 850W

1x Cooler Master Silencio RC-550

2x Noctua NF-S12B-FLX-1200 120x120 1200rpm

1x LG GH24LS70 Grabadora DVD 24x Negra Lightscribe OEM

Total: 1550€

In addition to the comments you want to make to me, I have some doubts a priori:

-Regarding the CPU cooler, I chose the Noctua 12cm one because it gives more flow in ULNA mode, but I don't know if I should put the 9cm one, which gives a little less flow but also less noise, and weighs less. This issue of weight worries me, because the 12cm one weighs 970grs installed.

Noctua NH-U12P SE2 NH-U12P SE2 Fan/Cooler
Noctua NH-U9B SE2 NH-U9B SE2 Fan/Cooler

-About the graphics card, I think the gtx-570 is more than enough, but I'm not sure. I'm very interested in what you think on this point.

MSI GeForce GTX 570 Twin Frozr III PE/OC 1280MB GDDR5 912-V257-013 Graphics Card

-Regarding the motherboard, I don't know if I should put that one or the Asus P8Z68 DELUXE/GEN3

Asus P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 90-MIBFIA-G0EAY00Z Motherboard
Asus P8Z68 DELUXE/GEN3 90-MIBGE0-G0AAY00Z Motherboard

-Regarding the power supply, I don't know if the 650w version would be enough, which is a bit quieter than the 850w. I'm not really sure how much the 650w would actually supply.

Be Quiet Dark Power PRO P9 650W BN173 Power Supply
Be Quiet Dark Power P9 Pro 850W BN175 Power Supply

-Regarding the case, I chose it because I read in several reviews that it's the one that isolates the most noise produced by the components, but I would change the fans for the Noctua ones you see in the list, connected in ULNA mode.

Cooler Master Silencio RC-550 RC-550-KKN1 Case/Tower
Noctua NF-S12B-FLX-1200 120x120 1200rpm NH-S12B FLX Fan 12 cm

-Regarding the hard drives, the SSD would be for Windows 7, programs and the few files I'm working on at the moment, and the Caviar Black for storage of work that I can access at any time.

Crucial M4 128GB SATA3 + Data Transfer Kit CT128M4SSD2CCA Solid State Drive
WD Caviar Black 1.5TB SATA3 64MB WD1502FAEX Hard Drive

Thanks in advance. Best regards.

[Sylver]

Hello

I for example would change those memories for these:

G.Skill Ripjaws X DDR3 1600 PC3-12800 16GB 4x4GB CL9 F3-12800CL9Q-16GBXL DDR3 Memory

To cool that 2600K with the 9cm Noctua it is enough if you are not going to OC.

Regards

[tigre_est]

Thanks for your reply. I would like to know why you would change the memory, I mean, because G.Skill is better

Regarding the Noctua cooler, is it sufficient even in ULNA mode, in the slow speed mode?
Why do you opt for the 9cm one?

Best regards.

[Sylver]

@tigre_est:

Thanks for your reply. I would like to know why you would change the memory, I mean, G.Skill is better

Regarding the Noctua cooler, is it enough even in ULNA mode, in the slow speed mode?
Why do you opt for the 9cm one?

Best regards.

G.Skill has lower latencies and although the difference is small, they are a bit faster. Also, I think the 16Gb kit (4x4Gb exactly the same) is more cost-effective than two 8Gb kits since you ensure unequivocal identity between the modules.

In ULNA mode, it will work well, the Noctua is a very good cooler and I repeat that if you are not going to OC, you will have more than enough with it.

Best regards

[Nemo]

I would change the case. It isolates noise very well but sacrifices ventilation and a quality heatsink will do you little good if the case doesn't ventilate properly.
For example, it seems you like sober cases this Fractal Define R3 Titanium which, apart from being noise-insulating, ventilates better on all four sides.
They complement each other with some Gentle Typhoon fans at 1150 rpm and it works perfectly.

[tigre_est]

Hello, I don't understand why you say that the latencies are smaller in the GSkill, because on the website itself it says:

GSkill…...... 9-9-9-24
G.Skill Ripjaws X DDR3 1600 PC3-12800 16GB 4x4GB CL9 F3-12800CL9Q-16GBXL DDR3 Memory

Kingston…. 9-8-7-6
Kingston HyperX Blu DDR3 1600 PC3-12800 8GB 2x4GB CL9 KHX1600C9D3B1K2/8GX DDR3 Memory

If you could explain it to me more easily, I would appreciate it.

Thanks again. Regards.

[tigre_est]

@Nemo:

I would change the case. It isolates noise very well but sacrifices ventilation and a quality heatsink will do you little good if the case doesn't ventilate properly.
For example, it seems like you like sober cases, this Fractal Define R3 Titanium which, besides being noise-insulating, ventilates better on all four sides.
They complement with some Gentle Typhoon fans at 1150 rpm and it works great.

Thank you very much. I'm looking at the case and I like it a lot. The bad thing is that it seems like they don't have it at pccomponentes. I'm going to ask if they will bring it, or if not, how I can do it.

What I don't know is why you say it ventilates better. I see it as very, very similar. Will it isolate less noise than the 550?

Regards.

[Nemo]

@tigre_est:

Muchas gracias. Estoy mirando la caja y me gusta mucho. Lo malo es que parece queno la tienen en pccomponentes. Voy a preguntar a ver si la traeran, o si no, a ver cómo lo hago.

Saludos.

He visto que también está en negro.
Pues si no la tienen, es fácil :risitas: la pides donde te he indicado, son de confianza (mira el banner en la parte superior) :risitas: que por comparar precios tampoco pasa nada.
Un saludo

[Obione]

I would change the following:

Motherboard: ASRock P67 Extreme4 / Gigabyte P67A-UD4
CPU cooler: Thermalright HR-02
Case: NZXT H2
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws X 2x4GB 1600 CL7

When you buy the second 570, you mount a Be Quiet SilentWings USC 14 on top and a Gentle Typhoon 1150 below. You don't need PCIe 3.0 for that SLI and you would have to buy an Ivy Bridge (the 570 is PCIe 2.0 by the way). If you get a 2600K now, I think it's too much to spend to buy another micro just to have that "GEN 3" that you don't need. Another thing is that you would get an i3 or a 2500K for 200€ at most, and then you would get an Ivy i7 with 2 7970 but well, I already told you that PCIe x8 2.0 is enough, it wouldn't limit a 580, less a 570.

[Sylver]

@tigre_est:

Hello, I don't understand why you say that the latencies are smaller in the GSkill, because on the website itself it says:

GSkill…...... 9-9-9-24
G.Skill Ripjaws X DDR3 1600 PC3-12800 16GB 4x4GB CL9 F3-12800CL9Q-16GBXL DDR3 Memory

Kingston…. 9-8-7-6
Kingston HyperX Blu DDR3 1600 PC3-12800 8GB 2x4GB CL9 KHX1600C9D3B1K2/8GX DDR3 Memory

If you could explain it to me more easily, I would appreciate it.

Thanks again. Regards.

The problem is that it is poorly expressed in the information on the page. There it says that they are modifiable, and the latency can be lowered progressively, up to 6 if the page is not deceiving.
But the real latencies of the Kingston are 9-9-9-27.

Regards

[tigre_est]

There is a problem… it doesn't have USB 3.0, and that is a priority for me...

Regarding noise isolation, does it isolate better or worse than the 550?

Best regards.

[Nemo]

The isolation is similar, what changes and a lot is the cooling system of the case.
The 550 only has 1 front that brings in air and another rear that takes it out. When the 2600K starts sucking up watts and the 570 does the backing vocals, that interior is going to be hell.
The fractal, which I suggested for design and isolation, but there are others, besides the front and rear, the upper and lower ones that create a "chimney effect" that evacuates heat more effectively.
As for the USB 2.0…you have the rear ones on the board that are USB 3.0.

[Fassou]

For ~10€ you have USB 3.0 controllers that will serve you perfectly :sisi:

On the subject of noise, if you want a Formula One, you can't pretend it's going to be silent without limiting its performance.

The heat generated by so much power has to be dissipated somehow, and if you're not going for RL I hope you like the sound of planes taking off.

Another option is to think about moving the workstation away from the Tower itself, using wireless peripherals and monitor, or creating some kind of isolation, leaving the equipment in one room and running the cables to another, or similar.

Salu2!

[tigre_est]

@Sylver:

The problem is that it is poorly expressed in the page information. There it says that they are modifiable, being able to lower the latency progressively, up to 6 if the page does not deceive.
But the real latencies of the Kingston are 9-9-9-27.

Greetings

OK I take note. Then the GSkill.

Greetings.

[Obione]

The team I'm telling you about has USB 3 both on the motherboard and on the front of the tower, and the case is similar to the Silencio but with certain improvements. Take a look at the H2 in some review and you'll love it

[tigre_est]

@Nemo:

The isolation is similar, what changes and a lot is the cooling system of the case.
The 550 only has 1 front that brings in air and another rear that takes it out. When the 2600K starts sucking watts and the 570 does the backing vocals that interior is going to be a hell.
The fractal, which I suggested for design and isolation, but there are others, besides the front and rear, the upper and lower ones that create a "chimney effect" that evacuates heat more effectively.
As for the USB 2.0…you have the rear ones on the board that are USB 3.0.

I understand what you're saying to me. I'll stick with the Fractal then.
I wanted the USB 3.0 to be front for the sake of convenience.

Thank you very much. Regards.

[Nemo]

@Fassou:

For ~10€ you have USB 3.0 controllers that will serve you perfectly :sisi:

On the subject of noise, if you want a Formula One, you can't pretend it's going to be silent without limiting its performance.

The heat generated by so much power has to be dissipated somehow, and if you're not going for RL I hope you like the sound of planes taking off.

Another option is to think about moving the workstation away from the Tower itself, using wireless peripherals and monitor, or creating some kind of insulation, leaving the equipment in one room and running the cables to another, or something similar.

Salu2!

Come on Fassou, don't scare the man :risitas: he's not going to take off a Harrier every time he turns on the equipment!! :risitas::risitas:.
While it's true that with high-powered equipment, when you push it a bit you can hear it, it's not a scandal.

Un saludo

[tigre_est]

@Fassou:

For ~10€ you have USB 3.0 controllers that will serve you perfectly :sisi:

On the subject of noise, if you want a Formula One, you can't pretend it's silent, without limiting its performance.

The heat generated by so much power has to be dissipated somehow, and if you're not going for RL I hope you like the sound of planes taking off.

Another option is to think about moving the workstation away from the Tower itself, using wireless peripherals and monitor, or creating some kind of insulation, leaving the equipment in one room and running the cables to another, or similar.

Salu2!

Just to make sure I'm glued to it I don't even know what it is. Could you tell me one from the page of Online computer store: sale of Computers PcComponentes.com?

Thanks again. Regards.

[tigre_est]

@Nemo:

Hombre Fassou, tampoco acojones al hombre :risitas: that he's going to take off a Harrier every time he turns on the equipment!! :risitas::risitas:.
Si bien es cierto que con los equipos de alto potentes, cuando se les achucha algo se oyen tampoco es un escándalo.

Un saludo

Gustarme, me gusta más la silencio 550… pero si decís que eso va a ser una "olla a presión", me iré a por la Fractal.

Saludos.

[Fassou]

I thought I had recommended a board without USB 3.0 but now I see that you were talking about the front connectors. My mistake.

Regards!