Problem with graphics or with other things?

[Franziskaner]

hello everyone.
first I explain and then I ask ;D
yesterday I volunteered (big mistake) to change the hard drive of a family member's PC (a very simple thing, open sides take out the drive (ide) take out ide cable, take out power cable (molex) (the PSU is modular) mount new drive (sata) connect power cable and connect sata cable to PB.
CHUPADO :wall:
the tower is a NOX coolbay (with side fan)
I connected the molex of the side fan to another molex (an extension or something)
I closed the covers connected the power cables and etc and …....
MESSED UP :wall:
the tower beeps like crazy and does nothing, I automatically turn off the PC using the PSU switch
I remove the side (disconnect the fan to work more comfortable) disconnect the hard drive and press the power button......
all fans spin it doesn't beep like crazy (just one beep) but, black screen :llorar:
I disconnect everything (hard drives etc) nothing, black screen.
IDEA this is the power connector of the graphics card that will be half loose :mad:
I tighten it, I try again and everything is the same.
CRAZY measures I'm so nervous, I decide to unplug the GPU's power supply, I try and.... it beeps like a desperate :wall:
without memory modules it also beeps
I disassemble the computer (graphics card and memories) I test them in my PC and :
I'm using the memories now (well, just one ;D)
the graphics card is a GTS250 black screen :wall:
and my PSU is a valeo of 700W and I have a GTX660 and before a GTX 280 (I say this so you don't think it's because of lack of power)
externally it's fine (I don't see anything burned) the only thing is that the part of the heatsink is....like the lungs of a smoker (note that I also smoke, but not next to my computer)
clarify that on Monday and Tuesday I was using that PC and it worked perfectly (except the hard drive)
any suggestions?
thank you very much for reading the long story but..... I don't know how to sum it up ;D
regards

[MaxLG]

you must tell us what the beeps are like, as this is an important piece of information, whether it is a short or long beep, or if there are 2 short beeps etc.

I think it could be 2 things, one that you may have touched the RAM memory without meaning to and it is not properly placed, and 2 that you may have touched something on the motherboard or you may not have discharged the static electricity, which can damage some components if the motherboard is not of good quality.

Above all I THINK it is that, without more data I can't tell you anything else

[Franziskaner]

hello
a short beep is what the motherboard does, a short beep is usually on all the boards I've had that the system is OK and starts loading the OS
the computer in question the first time it beeped (like crazy) I suppose it was because of a cross between the fans (because thank god, I think I assembled a re-recorder correctly (without putting cables the wrong way around (a very difficult thing to do))
the second time was when I removed the power supply of the graphics card (which indicates that it has no power)
and when I removed the RAMs it beeped because it had no RAM
more suggestions ;D
greetings and thanks

[ferelxyx]

MANAZAS, if you were quiet those things wouldn't happen to you, and I don't say more than what I think or they kick me out of the forum

regards

[MaxLG]

Well, have it repaired, I doubt they'll leave it worse there xD

[Franziskaner]

@ferelxyx:

MANAZAS, if you were quiet those things wouldn't happen to you, and I don't say more than what I think or I'll be kicked out of the forum

regards

manazas NO ;D
better ; person prone to doing favors (which is worse )

any idea about what the hell is happening or has happened to the graphic
regards

P.D send Cojo*** to take out four screws, two cables and connect another and assemble this thing :wall:

[ferelxyx]

the first thing before touching a computer is to touch something metallic with your hands, in case you have a lot of static charge for whatever reason, it can give you a shock,
and when it fails and you don't know why, disassemble everything, clean it and check all connections and fans
I can't tell you more from here, it's hard to guess, but these things happen

regards

[whoololon]

And are you sure the computer was working before you messed with it?
Besides, and as MaxLG said, the beeps are important, unfortunately "like crazy" doesn't come up with anything.
Look at the graphics card. Take it out and put it in another computer, it could be that the port or the graphics card itself are no longer operational.
Oh, and better than the power button on the motherboard, is to unplug the cable.
Keep us posted.

[Sylver]

Start with the basics (micro, memory, graphics and power supply) and see if it gets to the BIOS post. If you see that by touching those components you can't get it to work, reset the BIOS from the motherboard's jumper/button and try again. This usually solves more than one problem.

When you solve this, then add the hard drive and test the boot. When the boot is successful, test the disk drives, to see if it's a problem with the burner in question.

I recommend that you do not connect any fans to the power supply during the entire resuscitation process, except for the one on the micro's heatsink but it will go to the board. Wait to resolve the problem before connecting them.

Regards

[Franziskaner]

@whoololon:

¿Y estás seguro de que el equipo funcionaba antes de meterle mano?
Aparte, y como dijo MaxLG, los pitidos son importantes, desgraciadamente por "como una loca" no me viene nada.
Mira la gráfica. Desmóntala y móntala en otro equipo, puede ser que bien el puerto o la grafica en sí, ya no sean operativos.
Ah, y mejor que el interruptor de la FA, es desenchufar el cable.
Mantennos informados.

@Sylver:

Haz un arranque con lo básico (micro, memorias, gráfica y fuente) y a ver si llega al post de la BIOS. Si ves que tocando esos componentes no consigues que viva, resetea la BIOS desde el jumper/botón de la placa y vuelve a probar. Esto suele sacar de más de un problema.

Cuando resuelvas esto, después añade disco duro y prueba el arranque. Cuando el arranque sea satisfactorio, prueba las unidades de disco, a ver si es cosa de la grabadora en cuestión.

Te recomiendo que no conectes a la fuente ningún ventilador durante todo el proceso de reanimación, salvo el del disipador del micro pero irá a la placa. Espera a resolver el problema para conectarlos.

Saludos

antes de nada gracias por los aportes
se que el primer post parece mas largo que el quijote, pero …. tan largo es de leer, parece ser que si.

@Franziskaner:

hola a todos.
primero os explico y luego pregunto
ayer me ofrecí voluntario ( craso error) a cambiar la re grabadora de el PC de un familiar ( una cosa muy sencilla, abrir laterales sacar la unidad ( ide ) sacar cable ide, sacar cable de alimentación (molex) ( la F.A es modular) montar unidad nueva ( sata) conectar cable de alimentación y conectar cable Sata a P.B.
CHUPADO
la torre es una NOX coolbay ( con ventilador lateral )
conecte el molex de el ventilador lateral a otro molex ( un alargador o no se que )
cierro las tapas conecto los cables de alimentación y etc y …....
CAGADA
la torre pita como una loca y no hace nada, automáticamente apago el PC usando el interruptor de la F.A
desmonto el lateral ( desconecto el ventilador para trabajar mas cómodo ) desconecto la re grabadora y pulso el botón de encendido …...
giran todos los ventiladores no pita como una loca ( solo un pitido ) pero, pantalla negra
desconecto Todo ( discos duros etc ) nada,pantalla negra.
IDEA esto es el conector de alimentación de la gráfica que estará medio suelto
lo aprieto, vuelvo a probar y todo igual.
BESTIA medidas bestias que estoy de los nervios, decido desenchufar la alimentación de la GPU, pruebo y …. pita como una desesperada
sin módulos de memoria también pita
e desmontado el equipo ( gráfica y memorias ) las e probado en mi PC y :
las memorias las estoy usando ahora ( bueno, solo una )
la gráfica (es una GTS250) pantalla negra
y mi F.A es una valeo de 700W y tengo una GTX660 y antes una GTX 280 ( esto lo digo para que no penséis que es por falta de fuente )
externamente esta bien ( no veo nada quemado ) el único pero es que la parte de el disipador esta ….como los pulmones de un fumador ( que conste que yo también fumo, pero al lado de mi ordenador NO )
aclarar que el lunes y el martes estuve usando ese PC y funcionaba perfectamente ( excepto la re grabadora )
¿alguna sugerencia?
muchas gracias por leer el pedazo de rollo pero….. no se como resumirlo

por solo un pitido quiero especificar que es un pitido corto, que hace siempre una placa para indicar que va a empezar a cargar el S.O por que el resto esta O.K también es posible que sea que va a empezar a cargar la bios pero, tanto monta monta tanto.
saludos y gracias

[whoololon]

…this is starting to look like someone trying to tickle a crocodile, but never mind.

@Franziskaner:

[…]the tower is beeping like crazy[…] beeping like a desperate one[…], it's not beeping like crazy (just one beep)[…]

POST error codes.

@Franziskaner:

[…]and I've disassembled the equipment (graphics and memory) and tested them on my PC and:
[…]the graphics card (it's a GTS250) black screen[…]

That looks like a GTS250 that has gone to a better place.
Try the opposite, your GPU in the other machine; if it doesn't work, and when you put it back in your machine it does, it could well be the FA or the motherboard.

[MaxLG]

And when it whistles like crazy what is the whistle like?

[Franziskaner]

that a moderator closes the post
thanks
to all

[Kernel1.0]

And in the end what was it, the graph??

[Sylver]

@Kernel1.0:

And in the end what was it, the graph??

+1

Tell us what happened man

[ferelxyx]

@ferelxyx:

MANAZAS, if you were quiet those things wouldn't happen to you, and I don't say more than what I think or they kick me out of the forum

regards

I reiterate again since I already smelled it from afar

[Franziskaner]

@Kernel1.0:

And in the end what was it, the graphic??

@Sylver:

+1

Tell us what happened man

I take it that it's the graphic (in a certain post I comment that I plugged it into my PC and it doesn't give a signal (black screen)

@ferelxyx:

I reiterate again since I already smelled it from afar

thanks for the contribution.

regards to all and thanks

[Franziskaner]

to close the post.
the thing ended in the following way, I disassembled the graphics card, heatsinks, fans and such, cleaned everything well and applied new thermal paste (the GPU did not show visible damage)
I mounted the graphics card in my PC and nothing
I mounted the graphics card in the second and third PCI ports and left my graphics card in place and it never recognized it (in the second PCI port for a while it indicated that it was connecting the two PCI ports but it did nothing)
in summary: sudden death
greetings and thanks to everyone for the help

[fjavi]

@Franziskaner:

to close the post.
the thing ended in the following way, and I dismantled the graphics, heatsinks, fans and such, and cleaned everything well and applied new thermal paste (the GPU did not show visible damage)
and I mounted the graphics card in my PC and nothing
I mounted the graphics card in the second and third PCI ports and left my graphics card in place and it never recognized it (in the second PCI and for a while it indicated that it was connecting the two PCI ports but it did nothing)
in summary: sudden death
greetings and thanks to everyone for the help

You've got one of the bad G92s, it already happened in laptops and also desktop graphics cards that some had sudden death, although many G80s have also died, it will be the temperature that ends up melting them, or perhaps that nvidia applied programmed obsolescence, who knows.

greetings

[TEXUS]

I have to tell you that after I thought the Franziskaner graphics card was dead, I cleaned the fan and wiped the board with a cloth dampened in pharmacy alcohol and it works :wall::wall::wall:.
All that remains is to thank everyone for your wise advice;D;D
The bad thing is that I have already bought the replacement, we will see if Revolution returns the money or what policy they follow.